r/canadaleft Feb 19 '24

HellBerta NDP 'combat misinformation' as legal experts say Smith's gender policies violate charter rights

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/ndp-combat-misinformation-as-legal-experts-say-smith-s-gender-policies-violate-charter-rights-1.6772730?taid=65d1c71f1ba9b1000160cbcd&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
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u/Myllicent Feb 19 '24

Alberta NDP leader Rachel Notley:

”Let’s talk about the facts.
Not conspiracies, not false myths spread on social media – facts.
Danielle Smith’s policy targeting trans and gender-diverse youth is an attack on a vulnerable group of youth and on thousands of Albertans. It is a massive overstep into private health care decisions. And it is an attack on the fundamental education rights of kids in our province.
But don’t take it from me: listen to the experts and allies in our video. Listen to the people with real, lived experiences.
Share this video and information with your friends and help combat the misinformation being spread by the Alberta government.
Sign our petition and tell Danielle Smith to stop pursuing these proposed changes.
Tell her that Albertans believe all human rights must be protected.“

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u/TheGovernor94 Marxist-Leninist ☭ Feb 19 '24

It’d be neat if the NDP actually did something

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u/thehero29 Feb 19 '24

The UCP have a majority. The only power the NDP have is to talk. Their votes don't matter. And there is no one on the UCP side that will vote against party lines. This will be up to the courts, not the NDP. And yes, the NDP are going to go through the courts.

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u/TheGovernor94 Marxist-Leninist ☭ Feb 19 '24

If all the NDP feel that they can do is finger wag then maybe we should stop supporting them and instead build a party that’ll actually fight for people

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u/thehero29 Feb 19 '24

This isn't really the fault of the NDP. It's a fault of our electoral system as a whole. Our current system strongly encourages playing for teams and sticking with party lines. When there is a system that allows for majorities to happen, it will always end up like this. As the last election showed, Alberta is now a 2 party province. The NDP literally cannot get the votes to pass, or reject laws. If not the NDP, it would be the Liberals, the Greens, or any other party that would want to oppose the UCP. So, unless we change our whole government system to some sort of proportional representation without parties, Alberta will always be like this. Unless people vote against the UCP in the next election.

The NDP are going to do all they can to oppose this, but without a majority of votes in the Legislature, the UCP can do all they want.

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u/TheGovernor94 Marxist-Leninist ☭ Feb 19 '24

this isn’t really the fault of the NDP

The NDP threw two elections in a row to the most despicable people imaginable despite vast amounts of capital and organizing power, they are very much responsible for the present electoral situation yes

It’s the fault of our current electoral system as a whole

First off, the NDP had a majority government, they quite literally could have fixed this fault in our system if they wanted to. Which they actually did promise prior to their election in 2015, but intentionally scrubbed from their website and pretended it never was a thing.

Secondly, maybe that’s a sign it’s time to move beyond electoral politics?

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u/thehero29 Feb 19 '24

So, the problem in Alberta isn't really the NDP, it's the people that have been brainwashed by 50 years of conservative governments. The majority of Alberta will always vote con, no matter what. This is slowly changing, given how many seats the NDP gained this past election. But it's a problem this province is still dealing with. Rural Alberta, and the majority of Calgary will always vote con. Edmonton is currently an NDP holdfast. The NDP didn't throw elections, they've gained seats, they are just fighting an uphill battle against people who fight dirty and a public that repeatedly votes against their own interests.

I don't know if you paid attention to the actual voter numbers for the election the NDP won and then the one after. The numbers of people who voted for NDP barely changed between the 2 elections. The same people voted NDP. But in the 2015 election, the Conservative vote was divided between the PC's and the Wildrose Party. If not for that vote split, the NDP would not have won.

Secondly, maybe that’s a sign it’s time to move beyond electoral politics?

What do you mean by this? I definitely agree that we need to move beyond the current system, I did mention proportional representation in my previous comment that you seem to have downvoted for some reason. I hope you're not suggesting not letting people voted for their representation. Or do you mean moving away from government altogether? I can get behind that too. I agree with a lot of the points of Anarchy.

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u/FuqLaCAQ Feb 19 '24

The only person who can do anything here is Trudeau, but he's too weak of a leader to use the Reserve Clause of the Constitution Act to disallow the bill.