r/boringdystopia • u/ProfessionalCamera50 • Aug 09 '24
Atrocities ☠️ “People don’t take slavery seriously enough for me” Person shows Cape Coast towers.
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u/anonymousmatt Aug 09 '24
Honest question: If an Anglo-Saxon white person goes on a tour like this, would it (or is it) disrespectful to the black tourists learning the history of their culture? I would love doing a tour like this some day but I would fear my presence would hinder the experience of others - like crashing a funeral.
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u/Bignizzle656 Aug 09 '24
As long as you are respectful I (as a white guy) believe that mutual learning and supportive understanding is necessary. We all must learn from history to ensure we never forget.
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u/Responsible_Fox9201 Aug 09 '24
I hear you and I appreciate the thought process, but we have to be able to have these conversations and make this as common knowledge as possible. If anyone doesn’t want you there, they should know that it’s keeping this dark past silent and furthering the ignorance in our society. It’s bad enough that we have Florida trying to hide the severity of slavery. This needs to be well known.
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u/s0ciety_a5under Aug 09 '24
Every race has experienced the slave trade throughout history. The barbary slave trades were middle eastern and northern African people enslaving Europeans for the Ottomans. Let's not forget that one Bobby Lee stream where he finds out Korea had the longest unbroken chain of slavery in history. It's just not talked about in the US where most of these videos originate. They focus on US history there and even then gloss over that. Go watch some documentaries about slave trades in other periods of time, and really be disturbed at what humans have done to each other. The main point is people sucked everywhere at all points in history, it wasn't just white American people.
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u/istolelychee Aug 10 '24
I think you might be missing the point here that they are talking about THEIR ancestors’ suffering that is directly connected to the current social and economic status of black Americans. It is a history that is being suppressed and being used to ignore the voices of CURRENT black people and their CURRENT issues
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u/SlashEssImplied Aug 10 '24
it wasn't just white American people.
Oh good, if other people did it that excuses us.
Now what about us having legal slaves today? What makes that ok for you?
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u/TadGhostalEsq Aug 10 '24
It might be that white people ought to be on the tour most of all. I imagine they’d learn the most from it. Hopefully the other tourists would appreciate that…
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u/OptimalBeans Aug 10 '24
You know we have more slaves today than at anytime in history. We just outsource it. Slaves have always been around and unfortunately they are not going away.
It has nothing to do with white vs black. Native Americans owned slaves way after it was outlawed in the US.
They use this crap to divide people. Come together and be strong.
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u/SlashEssImplied Aug 10 '24
after it was outlawed in the US.
Unless you're duly convicted (plea deals count) of any crime no matter how small.
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u/OptimalBeans Aug 11 '24
Yes, after it was outlawed native Americans still had slaves. Now the slaves are in other countries and our prisons. I’m not sure what your implying here
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u/asumfuck Aug 10 '24
This question feels very pandering.
Of course you can visit a historic site.
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u/anonymousmatt Aug 10 '24
I didn't mean it to be pandering. When the narrator said "this is the blood, sweat, tears ... of our ancestors," it made me consider the personal identification and attachment to slavery for black Americans (specifically) at the hands of (often) white colonials. While I can't place my finger on why, I feel it might be a different situation from, for example, German's visiting the Auschwitz memorial. There's nothing to be gained by asking the question beyond sensitivity to the pain felt by others.
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u/Michael_mkz Sep 02 '24
Yeah, going overboard much. I doubt they're even serious about visiting. Also, 'Anglo-Saxon'? Just say white—sounds so pretentious. No one is going to care if they’re there anyway.
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u/townmorron Aug 09 '24
Hear me out. Maybe we should focus on the slavery still happening today like the chocolate industry, diamond mining, Chinese sweat shops, etc
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u/Diehoe1234 Aug 09 '24
The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living. History is always relevant.
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u/Perfect_Bench_2815 Aug 09 '24
Many people do not want this type of history to be told! Banning and burning the books on these subjects. Threatening librarians and teachers who do it. Ban this history? Then Ban all history!
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u/townmorron Aug 09 '24
Not saying it isn't. What in saying we should shine lights on problems today more than constantly just shining on the past
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u/Diehoe1234 Aug 09 '24
People can talk about both no? Like instead of writing a comment about how we should be talking about this issue over that issue you can just talk about whatever issues is pressing u. Idk why it’s either or
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u/townmorron Aug 09 '24
So I guess you ignored the part were I said we can talk about both
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u/Stationary-Rover Aug 11 '24
You didn’t say that. You literally said that we should focus more on modern slavery and less on past slavery. You said twice. Don’t tell obvious lies.
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u/Perfect_Bench_2815 Aug 09 '24
Who are "We"? You are only one person. You must believe that you are "special"? I believe that you are "special" but not like you mean it.
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u/jesseistired Aug 09 '24
if the ugly truth of America’s history of slavery makes you uncomfortable just say that lol
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u/Nussmeister300 Aug 09 '24
It's not just the USA. Europe, and its bloody and gruesome colonial history is just horrific. The outrageous part of all this is that today's European children don't learn a single thing about this bloody history and you can see that as a result of their worldviews
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u/Perfect_Bench_2815 Aug 09 '24
This was one of the greatest crimes in history! Thank you for your comment but do not try and tell grown people on what they should focus on! You do that with your own children!
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u/12ealdeal Aug 10 '24
Say more on the chocolate industry in this context?
I’d love a reason to stop eating it.
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u/Mel_bear Aug 10 '24
Prisons
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u/FirstSeaLordFord Aug 09 '24
Is there a source for this?
I can't think of a time where you would have a thousand slaves locked underground just to antagonise them when you could be putting them to work
Why would the building have a space purposefully built for that?
It looks more like a store room that somebody made a gritty story for to sell tickets
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u/AdmirableSkirt8427 Aug 09 '24
This is where they were kept prior to getting shipped to the Caribbean and US. It was temporary, if they survived it. There are countless articles on the subject if you just Google “Cape Coast Castle.”
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u/FirstSeaLordFord Aug 10 '24
Thank you for actually taking the time to provide an explanation. It truly is horrific.
Everyone who downvoted me for merely asking a question just assumed I supported slavery just because I wanted to know more details, which is scary as it implies you should never question anything and just accept what you see online without any questions
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u/seenitreddit90s Aug 10 '24
Yeah it looks like you're trying to call it a hoax when you could easily just Google it.
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u/Dr-Satan-PhD Aug 10 '24
When you ask why they would have a building specifically to store slaves like this, and then proceed to answer your own question with an incorrect assumption, it makes your original question come across as disingenuous.
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u/pink-rainbow-unicorn Aug 09 '24
I think what some people mean by "not taken seriously enough", is that in some states it's still taught that the civil war was fought over states rights, or some other bs. In some states they still think that the slaves wanted to be there or were even compensated like workers. Also the fact that there were still slaves being kept in those same states even after the war, and after the emancipation proclamation. Yes slavery now is still important and we should look into that as well. But, as they say, if you don't learn history you're doomed to repeat it.
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