r/boringdystopia • u/ToraToraTaiga • Aug 08 '24
Civil Liberties ๐ Obviously if depressed kids dress in black, forcing them to wear things they don't want will make them stop being depressed!
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u/cardiweeb Aug 08 '24
My school tried this during the1999-2000 school year, all it really did was have people wear different shades of black and just call it grey. When that didn't work anymore because they changed the rules whenever they wanted, people would just wear blue jeans and black shirts. It doesn't work, kids are smarter than they think. We also had to tuck our shirts in which also was circumvented and ignored every chance we could get.
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u/not_so_witty_now Aug 08 '24
Treat the symptom not the cause! /s
I swear the mental gymnastics people jump through boggles the mind.
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u/scaper8 Aug 09 '24
This isn't even treating a damn symptom! This is treating an outwardly visible thing that may be, but in now way absolutely is, related to the cause.
At best, this is a cynical, "Look! I'm doing something! Aren't I awesome?" while not actually having to put any work in.
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Aug 09 '24 edited Aug 09 '24
Iโm a bit old and I was a bit of a goth girl. I was not depressed at all.
Why do they think if you wear black youโre depressed and if you wear other than black your mental health issue will be cured?!
Good thing such high IQ people who understand science and evidence-backed interventions are teaching children /s
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u/rustymontenegro Aug 09 '24
Lol I was goth and also a little depressed as a teenager, but I was that way before the clothes and the clothes lasted longer than the depression, so... Maybe I'm just an outlier :P
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u/Brandonazz Aug 09 '24
This is similar to my story, I don't think it's that odd. We don't have unlimited money and time to workshop our look and we already had all the well-matched black clothes in our wardrobe so...
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u/chaseinger Aug 08 '24
yes, systemically undermine the means of expression, that'll fix the problem. let's go texas.
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u/boringlesbian Aug 09 '24
I suffered from major depression as a kid/teen and was never given any treatment. I wore dark clothing. My sister in law gave me the most colorful, gaudy t-shirt she could find as a Christmas present to โ get me out of my funkโ. It was blotches of day glow pink, teal, yellow, and purple with gold glitter swirling lines. The entire shirt, front and back were in this pattern.
I wore this shirt once a week for YEARS. Literally, until it got too many holes in it.
I continued to suffer from major depression.
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u/rustymontenegro Aug 09 '24
See that's your problem, you needed to up your dose of ridiculous colored clothing. You should have asked your doctor for a once daily prescription of bright colored shirts. Woulda cleared that right up.
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u/BlueEyedPumpkinHead Aug 08 '24
We educate good dont no no difference between correlation and causation.
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u/maaalicelaaamb Aug 09 '24
Lol obviously very anti punk of them but I kinda dig the idea of goth kids having to find a color preference for part of their fit
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u/KyoKyu Aug 09 '24
JUST IGNORE THE PROBLEM, JUST COVER IT UP, DON'T TREAT THE PROBLE. JUST ACT NORMAL AND HAPPY.
so dumb
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u/paraworldblue Aug 09 '24
Depression and mental health issues? I thought Tiktok solved all that by censoring words like "death" and "suicide". Nobody's even thought about unaliving themselves since then, so I don't know what that school thinks they're accomplishing.
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u/vxicepickxv Aug 09 '24
If they didn't want to see black, they could have used potential heatstroke as a reason from climate change. /hj
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u/Poggersthedoggers Aug 09 '24
"The depressed kids wear black so black clothing must cause depression!" You shouldn't even be a teacher if your critical thinking skills are this bad.
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u/fatedwanderer Aug 09 '24
(Attempt at a risky joke. Fingers crossed reddit)
So they banned Dickies and Durags?๐
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u/1rmavep Aug 16 '24
I feel like this is representative of the same, mentality, that has schools on the, "front lines," of their student's gender, that while that is a great deal more serious, in some, or most, respects, this is the School On-side with Bullying, really, and while I'm inclined to call it,
Frontier Shore-lining which needs an outsider to shoreline against
It sure is bullying, and it sure is a pattern, and here, and, elsewhere, it seems like a pattern in search of a target, as often as not; willing to be racist, willing to be homophobic, willing to be trans-exclusionary, bigoted, they'll drift between targets until they've found the moral panic that fits the moment, and Isolates the Target against their peers and the adult community, efficaciously,
Now, and for a contrast with an attempt to benefit students through a cultural, "hands-on," I can't help but notice that Schools, Workplaces, the Military, these are all hierarchical, rather rigid institutions; the fact that, "alpha wolves," are an artifact of confinement and artificial scarcity, while well known, at this point, sure seems relevant; what I'm trying to say, is, a, "moral intervention," which hoped to have results, which might even have an objective in the realm of, "student mental health," would, perhaps, seek to make their institution less-like one in which the Dark Triad is rewarded and perhaps watches out for those traits, both for the student in question, and, for the other students; I can't figure out a reason to encourage, allow, unchecked, the kids to become psychopaths, whereas, and I think this is interesting,
The Breakfast Club is Not Real Life, really, that is not an accurate portrayal of mental health useful for educators to emulate, but it's not difficult to figure out how Ally Sheedy's Goth figures into this kind of disciplinarian psychology, these mfers LOVE a Cultural Contagion,
Ask Me, this is because the, "Cultural Contagion," offers that Rare Bird of the Victim, Ally Sheedy's Goth, in this example, you can blame, for her state of being; if it's her dress and aesthetics that hurt her mental health, than, She's the Avatar of Depression, normalizing, spreading it on to others; Her aesthetics might well reflect her affect, might well reflect the attention she doesn't want from the basketball players, "whatever," but here, again, I cite,
Frontier Shore-lining which needs an outsider to shoreline against
I doubt it has ever been said that the, "outsider," is harmless, and I almost wonder how much of the increasingly, cultural, and even in terms of gender, LGBTQ issues more broadly, nature of bureaucratic interest in young people, has, been related to their disinterest in, or desistance from, anyway, intoxicants, sexuality, socializing, even, and I mean in the sense that,
What gangs, none of these kids hang out after school; they're all sober, also.
If 18 is where you get reliable data, the presupposition is that it tracks younger, anyway, especially, in mind of the irreversible trend towards schools as a Policed Foucault Nightmare, what to do if there is an unrelated decline in the premises?
Attributable to overall negative things, no less, mental illness and social media and the like, you're set up to police gangbangers, instead you've got halls full of Andrew Tate Incels and Depressed Sephora Shoppers, "shoot," both of those issues would be difficult to deal with, politically, so,
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