r/boringdystopia Dec 18 '23

Environmental Degradation šŸŒ What happened to the snow?

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u/illumi-thotti Dec 18 '23

I work in retail a couple hours south of the US-Canada border. Words can't describe how it feels to hear "I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas" multiple times per day, every single day... only to look up and see exposed green patches of grass one week before Christmas. Five years ago, we would've had snow banks taller than most cars.

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u/LibrarianSocrates Dec 18 '23

Try living in the southern hemisphere and listening to all that white Christmas stuff every year.

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u/throwawayinthe818 Dec 18 '23

And up here we hear about Christmas beach vacations and scratch our heads.

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u/gujayeon Dec 18 '23

But you don't have to miss it :'(

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u/Wereking2 Dec 18 '23

As someone from Minnesota yeah we would be buried in snow by now.

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u/Pookieeatworld Dec 19 '23

Yeah my birthday is in the middle of November and I grew up and live still in southwest Michigan. I have gone sledding on multiple occasions on my birthday, but not since the mid-90's. Hell I remember one Halloween it was too cold to trick-or-treat.

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u/Konradleijon Dec 20 '23

Yes it makes me anxious

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

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u/Lazy-Jeweler3230 Dec 18 '23

So many people are still like "The warm is nice! I hope it never snows again!"

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u/ScumBunny Dec 18 '23

I hate being cold, winter, and snow. But I know how catastrophic itā€™s becoming NOT having the seasons change naturally due to climate change.

Iā€™d love if I lived somewhere that it never snowed or got cold, but that shouldnā€™t be the Appalachian Mountains where I am now! Terrifying times.

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u/Lazy-Jeweler3230 Dec 18 '23

I feel the same way about warm and sunny that you do about cold and snow lol.

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u/ScumBunny Dec 19 '23

Hah! People are people. I canā€™t imagine NOT having warm, sunny days.

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u/Lazy-Jeweler3230 Dec 19 '23

Blegh.

Excuse me while I go hibernate from summer.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

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u/jickdam Dec 18 '23

Weā€™re in that sweet spot between a healthy climate and an apocalypse where I donā€™t have to shovel šŸ˜Ž

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u/Vicious_Vixen22 Dec 18 '23

That made me bitterly laugh

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u/Deathangle75 Dec 18 '23

I admit, I am happy for the lack of snow. But thatā€™s only because Amazon, where I work, never shuts down for bad weather this time of year. Last year I had to drive two hours through a blizzard to get home, and two hours through sleet covered roads the next day to get back to work. Iā€™m pretty sure I saw on the news people died in that blizzard.

But if that story proves anything, is that capitalism is the problem, both for the climate, and our lives.

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u/Lazy-Jeweler3230 Dec 18 '23

People are also dying to many other climate change induced extreme weather events.

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u/Abracadaniel95 Dec 18 '23

I grew up in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and I've always been of the opinion that snow is cool until after Christmas, then it can just fuck off. Now we don't even get snow until after Christmas. We used to have several feet of it by Thanksgiving almost every year.

Plus, now we're getting a polar vortex like every February.

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u/Endgam Dec 18 '23

Even here in Florida we'd get nights around this time of year where the temperature drops below freezing so we'd have to have a faucet on drip mode overnight to prevent pipe damage.

.....Not anymore.

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u/frankvagabond303 Dec 18 '23

At least the iguanas aren't freezing and falling out of the trees!

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u/VanityOfEliCLee Dec 18 '23

Nah, they'll just be overheating or drowning come summer time.

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u/Lazy-Jeweler3230 Dec 18 '23

Middle WI here, 40 yrs old. I remember such times. So far we've had nothing but 40s-60 and rain. No snow. And that's become more common than not.

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u/thecuriousiguana Dec 18 '23

The UK is statistically more likely to have a white Easter than Christmas. Snow at Christmas in the UK is largely a myth created from idealised Victorian imagery.

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u/Cum_Rag_C-137 Dec 18 '23

Charles Dickens is to blame, he was alive during an unusually cold Christmas when it snowed, he wrote about it created the trope of a white Christmas even though that was never the norm.

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u/thecuriousiguana Dec 18 '23

Most of a Christmas comes from that era

Here is a very entertaining and interesting radio show about it

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07xl3bm

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u/lWantToFuckWattson Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 19 '23

Be so for real, are we seriously doing this??

All over the world it's warmer than it should be. That's not because of Charles Fucking Dickens; it's not snowing because it's fucking warmer.

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u/Cum_Rag_C-137 Dec 19 '23

Does being as ignorant as you are help you through life? Here's an article (one of hundreds) on this.

Heres a Reddit TIL on it

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u/lWantToFuckWattson Dec 19 '23

I don't live in the UK you dolt

I live in Canada, and it has snowed exactly one time here and it's December 19. It's supposed to be snowing, and it's not. I know that it's supposed to be snowing because I've lived here my entire life, not because Charles Dickens said so

You're not going to use Charles Dickens to Acktually away climate change

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

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u/mrsdoubleu Dec 18 '23

It's supposed to be 50F on Christmas Day here in Michigan. It's crazy.

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u/ConstantHawk-2241 Dec 18 '23

Iā€™m in the upper peninsula and we are seriously lacking snow, which helps protect our plumbing from our house to the sewers, when we get our big February freeze. This will be a rough season for us.

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u/Dinokiller12345 Dec 18 '23

Same and I'm in NH

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u/D-PadRadio Dec 18 '23

Same. PA.

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u/PEE_GOO Dec 18 '23

there are other people here??

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u/totalysharky Dec 18 '23

It's 62Ā°F and pouring rain right now by me.

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u/karoshikun Dec 18 '23

Louisiana?

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u/Wishfer Dec 18 '23

Feels like it.

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u/cosmic_muppet Dec 18 '23

Never had this little snow before where I live. It's creepy.

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u/s3thm1chael Dec 18 '23

Southern California here, rarely see snow but this is the first year in my life that I havenā€™t turned on the heater. Havenā€™t even disconnected the cooler and hooked up the heater because Iā€™ve still been needing to run the cooler. Itā€™s wild.

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u/freeman687 Dec 18 '23

In NYC It was about 60 degrees F today

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u/Forgotlogin_0624 Dec 18 '23

Yeah for whatever reason thatā€™s been sticking with me, snowless NYC. You just donā€™t get snow anymore, like ever it seems. How do the people respond to this? Is there a base layer of dread to it or are they oblivious?

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u/freeman687 Dec 18 '23

Iā€™d say thereā€™s long term dread of floods but short term no one minds warmer weather

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u/g4greed Dec 18 '23

anyone else sort of accepted that we're all going to die from climate issues?

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u/EasyPeezyATC Dec 18 '23

Much more likely to be cancer or heart disease

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u/g4greed Dec 18 '23

I'm being genuine here- I wonder how many people know of the flowers and grass growing in Antarctica rn

or if they think it's of any significance at all

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u/EasyPeezyATC Dec 18 '23

Iā€™m being genuine here. I know about the flowers. I also know that cancer and heart disease kills over 50% of people that die in developed countries.

Climate change is frightening for the future of our race and needs to be addressed, but if youā€™re old enough to be talking about dying from it on Reddit, youā€™re much much more likely to die of the issues I mentioned long before our children see the true humongous effects of it.

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u/lWantToFuckWattson Dec 18 '23

Not at the rate this is going

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u/apophis150 Dec 18 '23

Oh yeah, long ago; Iā€™m just trying to enjoy things as much as I can while causing as little harm as I can.

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u/doug7250 Dec 18 '23

This is going to be the least of our problems folks.

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u/deimosnight Dec 18 '23

Oh, the weather outside is frightful...

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u/Luce55 Dec 18 '23

And the fire, no longer delightful. šŸ˜

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u/thatcatfromgarfield Dec 18 '23

I moved to northern Germany a while ago and there's a little more snow here than in western Germany. But it's still only a few weeks a year, usually at the end of November and then somewhen in January and February. Sometimes one last snow fall in April and that's it. The rest of the time it rains and has 10Ā°C (way over the freezing point of water, it's way to warm for winter here)

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u/sswagner2000 Dec 18 '23

DFW area here. Snow was never expected anyway, but we are still waiting for the first freeze. Allergies are terrible right now without anything to really slow down all of the pollen.

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u/JudasPenguin Dec 18 '23

Last year we had 6 feet of snow in November and another 6 feet right at Christmas. This year we've had about 5 inches

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u/Golden-Sylence Dec 18 '23

Its an El Nino year??

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u/JudasPenguin Dec 18 '23

We got 118 inches total the last el nino year. We could still turn around and get absolutely demolished by snow after new years but that doesn't change the fact that this is unusual

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u/Bap818 Dec 18 '23

Here in Western Washington state, it was 60 degrees last week. Fucking crazy

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u/RAV3NH0LM Dec 18 '23

iā€™m in michigan, itā€™s halfway through december, and weā€™ve had like one whole inch of snow that lasted ~a day and a half.

it feels so bizarre.

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u/BadgerKomodo Dec 18 '23

As someone who lives in Scotland, itā€™s never been snowy in my life. This is a country with a naturally mild climate.

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u/yvnglasaga Dec 18 '23

I live in Minneapolis. When most people think of minnesota they think ofā€¦ well cold and snow and ice and long, dark winters. I havenā€™t seen one of those in years. It was 50 and sunny the other day

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u/BradTProse Dec 18 '23

On border of Canada, no snow just rain.

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u/PsychoticBananaSplit Dec 18 '23

Maybe jesus just doesn't want snow on his birthday anymore and called in a little favour from daddy

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u/twilsonco Dec 18 '23

Itā€™s line ā€œdonā€™t touch that dialā€ and ā€œhang up the phoneā€. Existing phrases are just as strange to young people as young peopleā€™s phrases are to boomers šŸ˜‚

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u/Golden-Sylence Dec 18 '23

Le sigh. Nobody's heard of El Nino?

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u/Careful-Sentence5292 Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23

Itā€™s 60Ā° today in Boston and we just survived a ton of rain known as a cyclone. Yes weā€™ve heard of El NiƱo Iā€™m just wondering where the hell the snows at. I live in New England aI grew up with snow storms where are they?

Edit for clarity. Speech to text.

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u/Golden-Sylence Dec 18 '23

I live in northern Alberta, every year theres an el nino, we don't get any snow. Because its too warm for snow. Its +2Ā°C today. Or 35Ā°F. You're not getting any snow because it melts on the way down and falls as rain? I'm confused how you think you're going to get snow when its 60Ā°F/15Ā°C out. How are you going to get a snow storm.

I'm absolutely onboard with human caused climate change, but this reminds me of the time Leonardo DiCaprio came to Calgary to film The Revenant and had a great big freak out over a chinook. Called it evidence of climate change because the temperature climbed from -8Ā°C to +16Ā°C in 2 hours. Chinooks have been a part of life in that area for thousands of years. Chinook is a first nations word. Had nothing to do with climate change, just ignorance.

So when people freak out this year (during an El Nino event) because its uncharacteristically warm, I have to wonder if they just don't know whats up.

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u/Careful-Sentence5292 Dec 18 '23

My kids are five and six years old. Weā€™ve lived in New England their whole life has it been El NiƱo for the past five years straight? No? Didnā€™t think so.

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u/VanityOfEliCLee Dec 18 '23

I live in mid/northern USA and it has been 50Ā°F every day for a week, when we usually have 31Ā° or lower by now. There's usually snow everywhere. I moved from Southern California where it was always in the 60Ā° range around Christmas and we never had snow (obviously) and loved that it would snow this time of year. This year, I just feel like I'm back in Southern California.

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u/Quirky-Bar4236 Dec 18 '23

Christmas is set to be 60Ā°F in Oklahoma this year. Last year, I wore shorts to the family get together.

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u/Trick_Weekend Dec 18 '23

i live in the southern US so this has never been a thing

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u/ExistentDavid1138 Dec 18 '23

I suppose Christmas in Hawaii doesn't notice the difference

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u/Lainarlej Dec 18 '23

Iā€™ve noticed the weather is a month or so behind. I live in the Midwest and we used to have a first snow around Thanksgiving. Lately it seems snow begins in January, and spring doesnā€™t kick in until late April or early May. Iā€™m not a fan of snow but I do get frustrated when spring doesnā€™t start until mid to late April

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u/aken2118 Dec 19 '23

Four seasons became one šŸ™ƒ

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u/chypie2 Dec 19 '23

I live in Ohio, 20 years ago it was a given we'd get snowed in at least a few days a year. In the last 5 years or so we've barely had a few inches, and in the last 2 hardly even a coating. It used to snow in October with chilly temps, Cold weather doesn't usually show up until Jan now.

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u/immigrantanimal Dec 19 '23

For the last ten years winter has been pushed back farther and farther. I remember las year I wasnā€™t really cold until February

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u/SatisfactionPerfect7 Dec 20 '23

Where I live we used to get snow every December, not a whole lot but enough to cover the ground and go sledding in for a couple weeks. We havenā€™t had that much snow in years now. It doesnā€™t even feel like winter at all anymore.