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Weekly Behind the Bastards Episode Discussion 2024-12-24
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u/SpoofedFinger 3d ago
Gonna disagree with Robert. A klansman that lynched a black woman is exactly the kind of guy that would love Woodrow Wilson's presidency.
-Famously screened Birth of a Nation at the White House
-Resegregated the federal service
-Didn't do shit to stop the white supremecist violence of the red summer
Here's part one of a two part youtube video on all the ways he sucks.
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u/ConcordGrape73 3d ago
I haven’t listened to the episode yet but I can’t fathom anyone with history knowledge of Wilson would think he’d like Guthrie. I’ll listen now while no one’s home.
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u/SpoofedFinger 3d ago
It was just a quick comment in passing about how we all had high hopes for Wilson but were let down referencing our entry into WWI. Woody's klansman dad named him after the president early in his presidency. I'm just here to make sure everybody knows that Wilson always sucked, even compared to his contemporaries.
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u/ConcordGrape73 3d ago
So how do you think he compares to trump? Probably worse since he seems to have at least been competent whereas trump is a throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. Idk overly too much about Wilson (input the YouTube link in my watchlist as it’s Christmas Eve and nothings sticking in my brain but the seven fish dinner I’m procrastinating at right now.)
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u/SpoofedFinger 3d ago
Trump's story is incomplete so it's hard to say. I think it's definitely in the cards that he has a health event and they just hide it and rule through him like happened with Wilson though.
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u/SpoofedFinger 3d ago
Also, I'd never heard of the feast of seven fishes thing for Christmas before The Bear S2E6, so in my mind you're emotionally steeling yourself for some crazy shit.
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u/ConcordGrape73 3d ago
Lol I didn’t know they did the fishes on the bear. I married an Italian and was introduced to the seven fishes years ago. Christmas Eve is the seven fishes and lasagna Christmas Day. And way too many baked goods. It’s just our small family these days but I still cook like it’s everyone coming.
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u/Hot_Warthog8802 2d ago
Wilson was "competent" until probably the flu forked him up so bad while negotiating the Treaty of Versailles and I think he had a stroke and his wife covered for him (photo ops and all)
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u/kk_celine 1d ago
While Wilson was competent, it should be noted that during the last 2 years of his presidency, his wife was secretly co-president (he'd had a stroke, and was bedridden). Do you think Trump would allow anyone, especially his wife, to help him run things?
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u/Rinasoir 3d ago
Not his most famous song, but his version of Jarama Valley is probably my favorite song of his.
Like, he has a lot of good songs, but that version of it always sticks with me.
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u/Hot_Warthog8802 3d ago
My dad was a folk singer in the early sixties and I hope he's getting a kick out of this episode because I can hear Guthrie's influence in my dad's work. And of course, coming back to vampires checks out with this topic.
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u/ConcordGrape73 3d ago
That’s so cool. ive been into the history of folk songs and old protest songs lately. It’s like the struggle never ended and the music is relevant today as back in the industrial revolution.
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u/ZazofLegend 3d ago
The basis of MLM culture. Which MLM? Multilevel marketing, men loving men, or marxist-leninist-maoist? All 3?
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u/LonePistachio 3d ago
Men-loving markets. Power tools, 12 in 1 soaps, beard oils, and such.
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u/ZazofLegend 3d ago
Does this also include other unnecessarily gendered products, like pink handled tools and slippers?
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u/LonePistachio 3d ago
"This Land is Your Land" was based on the Carter Family song, "When the World's on Fire."
Here's a performance of that song by Andrew Bird. The guy singing with him, who looks like John C. Riley, is John C. Riley.
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u/Granum22 18h ago
Huntington's is truly a bastard disease. Around age 40 you go insane and then die. On top of that all of your kids have a 50% of having it.
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u/HuntDisastrous9421 1d ago
Just saw the Bob Dylan biopic last night and had to look up what happened to Woody. I’m preparing myself to cry.
(My movie review: Timothy Chalamet is great, but…the movie isn’t about anything? As long as you aren’t looking for like, an interesting plot, it’s a fun movie to watch just to enjoy good actors doing good work.)
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u/familyguy20 14h ago
How was Edward Norton as Pete Seeger? Thought it was pretty good casting at least.
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u/HuntDisastrous9421 1d ago
Also…I do mean “actors” in a male sense cuz the roles they wrote for the women mostly involve looking hot, crying, and running away. Ranks low on the SCUM score but definitely gets a boost for “Misogyny”.
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u/walrus_tuskss Sponsored by Knife Missiles™️ 1d ago
Went to school in Oklahoma and Woody is praised as a bit of a folk hero along with Will Rogers and Wiley Post. He is featured in a lot of curriculum in history, English, and art courses. You’re taught his songs and a highly sanitized version of his life. All the socialisms and communism connections were removed, of course.
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u/MajorWedgie1967 1d ago
Will Geer, mentioned in the first part, deserves a Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff episode. He recorded an album with Guthrie called Bound For Glory (also the name of Guthries autobiography, which is a really great read), was a leftist artist/organizer and full-on member of the communist party who was blacklisted for not naming names in the 1950s, starred in one of the best Union films ever - Salt of the Earth - and ended his career playing Grandpa Walton in the TV show The Waltons.
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u/anacondra 19h ago
I look forward to the Christmas episodes every year. This episode did not disappoint.
Great job. Heartwarming, informative and motivating.
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u/unitedshoes 16h ago
I think Margaret missed something very important in the cold open to Part 2.
Supreme Court Justice Robert Evans will absolutely find a constitutional right to personal nuclear weapons for individuals. The interesting part is what case he will find such a right in. You know he's not going to pop that out somewhere you'd expect it, like a Second Amendment case. Nah, it's gonna be a curveball. He'll slip that in while the rest of the Justices are debating whether it's okay to drill for oil through one of the bison at Yosemite or when determining which machines on a meatpacking facility are allowed to have the parts that actually touch the meat made out of radium or something like that.
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u/FakeWorldsChampion 4h ago
I actually thought about it and realized how the argument can be made. The 2nd amendment says the right to "bear arms" not the right to "bear guns" that means all arms are on the table as being constitutionally legal for private individuals to own..
I should probably delete this before I give anyone idea.
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u/unitedshoes 4h ago
Pfft. That's child's play. Anyone can find the right to personal nukes in the Second Amendment. It'll take a real Evansian mind to find it in the 17th Amendment, or in Article I Section 3.
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u/Strong_Departure_232 7h ago
I can't believe Robert Evans didn't mention the fact that Guthrie wrote a song about Donald Trump's slumlord father
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u/JT_Cullen84 3d ago
wake up
Ooh new episode of behind the bastards.
sees subject of episode
Sigh. Im going to have to go fight Robert. Woody guthrie is not a bas--
Looks at calendar
Every goddamn time.