r/behindthebastards • u/renesys • Jan 12 '24
The mods are dicks subirl
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u/Raspberry-Famous Jan 12 '24
If Biden loses this time around it's because of Biden. It sucks that the Democrats are such a shit party both ideologically and practically but it is what it is I guess.
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u/renesys Jan 14 '24
Saying it is what it is ignores the reality of what will happen to people if Republicans win. Israel will still get weapons, trans rights will get worse, democracy will stray further from ideal if it survives at all, violence against immigrants will likely escalate, list could go on and on.
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u/Raspberry-Famous Jan 14 '24
Yeah, it sucks that Biden is such a shit president. There's very little I can do about it though, so...
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u/renesys Jan 14 '24
So don't vote for him and get the other guy who is worse elected?
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u/Raspberry-Famous Jan 15 '24
If Biden fucks it so badly that he loses my home state then he was already going to get blown out.
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u/renesys Jan 15 '24
Shit excuse for pushing a narrative that will convince others in competitive states to not vote.
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u/Raspberry-Famous Jan 15 '24
Yeah, it's this comment on a low effort image macro post from 3 days ago that's sitting at 4 upvotes in a subreddit for a podcast that's the thing that's going to swing the election.
Anything to avoid the reality that the Democrats are laying in a bed they fucking made I guess.
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u/azimov_was_right Jan 14 '24
Go bully Republicans. Or go bully liberals who are supporting a genocide. When Trump wins it won't be the fault of people voting with their values. It will be Biden's fault for being a shithead.
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u/renesys Jan 14 '24
If it happens it will objectively be both.
Voting should be about best outcomes, not feels. If you think Trump is the best outcome, it's confusing why you are in this sub.
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u/azimov_was_right Jan 14 '24
Welp, good luck with this strategy. Don't think it'll work at all, but don't let me stop you from helping to perpetuate the meme of the left attacking itself.
For me the best outcome would be elected officials who understand that they must do what the people want in order to win elections. Feckless liberals who want to convince everyone to vote blue no matter who have convinced politicians like genocide Joe that he doesn't have to do a goddamn thing to walk to a second term.
If you want me to vote for Biden pressure him to do something not evil.
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u/renesys Jan 14 '24
Not voting for the left most candidate and hurting a lot of left leaning people would be perpetuating the left attacking itself.
You're basically advocating accelerationism. That if you let shit get bad enough people will understand and side with you (someone who helped make it bad).
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u/azimov_was_right Jan 15 '24
Biden is not the left most candidate. He is maybe left of Trump on most things, but there'll be a dozen other candidates on the ballot. At the end of the day they'll both use razorwire inflatables to drown families crossing the Rio Grande.
I'm not an accelerationist...most days. I understand that there's no guarantee that the good guys will win the revolution.
Just like to point out that you're not posting this type of pro-biden stuff where it'll do any good. Go try to tell the liberals that Biden's campaign is in jeopardy.
This meme does get one thing right, and that is: there is a tough choice to be made about voting for genocide bro, voting third party or just sitting this one out. It's not an easy choice.
Maybe I'll change my mind. The easiest way for that to happen is for Biden to change his actions.
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u/renesys Jan 15 '24
He's the left most candidate that can win.
Also this isn't pro-Biden, it's anti-fascist, and pod host was all about voting the lesser evil.
It's not a tough choice when you're trying to help real people instead of trying to win internet points doing the right thing in a pretend idealist revolution.
Choice is real fucking easy when considering women in court because of a miscarriage in a state where abortion is now illegal.
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u/azimov_was_right Jan 15 '24
I don't think I'm winning any Internet points here.
Ever heard the saying "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds."? Yeah, Biden is that type. He's pro-capitalist, pro-cop, genocidal shit bag. If he wanted to protect LGBTQ+ and women he could. Yet here we are and he's just sitting at watching Florida, Texas and other states do a fascism against marginalized people. I don't mean to alarm you but fascism is already here. And if Biden was the guy to stop it, he would.
My contention remains the same, the only thing that can get Biden elected is for him to do good things. He thinks we'll all vote for him regardless of his actions. I don't think that's true for many people on the left. So if he loses it will be his fault for being a shitty president.
So no if you're not concerned with losing Internet points go post this meme in a space where Democrats and Centrists are and tell them that there is a very real chance that they will lose the presidency if they don't change up their strategy.
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u/Jackdaw16huls Jan 14 '24
You dislike Biden because you think he's a leftist. I dislike Biden because I am a leftist. We are not the same.
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u/renesys Jan 14 '24
Yes because someone who hates him for being a leftist would want to destroy Republican fascism.
But you followed the meme format, so good job I guess.
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u/Jackdaw16huls Jan 15 '24
Yeah, didnt mean you as in "you." Just the general format. We see him as the least bad option. We may dislike him because he isn't left enough, but that doesn't mean we like the other side any more.
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u/OkMarketing6356 Jan 13 '24
There’s been this thought floating around in my head that most people who choose not to vote are in a position of privilege where it probably doesn’t make a huge difference to them who actually wins. It especially falls into the category of leftist podcasters. Meanwhile my mom is working for an organization that is housing migrant families and is scared shitless and will see real consequences. so will the company I work for that is working on homelessness and drug addiction. I don’t blame people for not voting for pro genocide candidates but you can still vote for state and local candidates.