r/bangladesh • u/T4H4_2004 • Oct 05 '24
AskDesh/দেশ কে জিজ্ঞাসা If there is one famous Bangladeshi (or Bengali in general) from the past that you would want to see now, who would it be?
For me it’s this guy: Maolana Bhashani. I think we could use his wisdom in today’s ever polarising society.
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u/T4H4_2004 Oct 05 '24 edited Oct 05 '24
I love his vision for a harmonious Bangladesh. He himself is a devout Muslim, but he would preach tolerance to other faiths and he had social ideals for the poor. He critiqued BAKSAL, and thought Mujib was careless about the corruption in the government, but he still loved him and he cried and prayed when Mujib and his family died. He would be very saddened to see the state of the Awami League, the party he founded.
By the way, what do you mean by the India part?
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u/khanikhan Oct 05 '24
Actually mujib just rode on the wagon mawlana bhasani made. Suhrawardi was the one who created mujib from scratch. In short, mujib was a cockroach.
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u/tzovro Oct 05 '24
You are the most knowledgeable and well read person in the whole effing world! I'm jealous!!
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u/always-worried-2020 Oct 05 '24
If only Bhasani didn't have 4 wives (that time it was more common tho). As a "fierce" feminist that one fact makes me uncomfortable because I've seen many Bangladeshi young men idealising his polygamy in online.
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u/Musa-2219 Oct 06 '24
Has nothing to do with his politics but okay
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u/always-worried-2020 Oct 08 '24
I expected this comment. But trying to idolise a past hero's personal life is the strongest among Muslims (starting with Muhammad) and that's how I came to know that he had 4 wives by some aspiring polygamist. He is becoming more popular and so will be idolise by more practising Muslims. And as a feminist I don't want to fight for basic rights like equal properties, not sharing a husband etc, it's 2024 😡.
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u/0ni0n_peeler Oct 05 '24
Jagadish Chandra Bose..... who wouldn't want to meet a genius?
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u/Dabjit Oct 06 '24
He is very underrated. When his invention was stolen by Marconi, he did not care because he was already happy that his invention was helping people.
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u/durjoy313 Oct 05 '24
Kazi Nazrul Islam is my GOAT.
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u/ThinkingPugnator Oct 06 '24
Why that?
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u/durjoy313 Oct 06 '24
I just find everything about him very interesting. His life, his literary work, his political view everything.
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u/Alternate_acc93 ১৩'র অরিজিনাল শাহবাগী Oct 05 '24
Vasani is the GOAT! He understands the point of being religious and moving away from the capitalist system at the same time, he was the first of the political leaders who walked away from Pakistan parliament with a “salam”, he worked and focused his political agenda towards working class people, he was clear eyed about Indian agenda as well as moving our country away from Pakistani influence! I wish I could talk with him, tell him that he should have used all the lever possible to wrastle out Shekh family from League, it’s gonna get downhill after he left.
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u/bringfoodhere Oct 06 '24
Bhasani left league in the 50s. And league won election in all pakistan in 1970.
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u/Warm_Hans_6479 khati bangali 🇧🇩 খাঁটি বাঙালি Oct 05 '24
he is also titled as "Red Mullah"
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u/Alternate_acc93 ১৩'র অরিজিনাল শাহবাগী Oct 05 '24
Yep! The guy who got the “religious left” correct!
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u/always-worried-2020 Oct 05 '24
Bhasani is a bit more religious/conservative for my liking. But Kazi Nazrul Islam, in one hand used to write about Islamic Gajols for Muslims, revolutionary poems that inspired men but on the other hand used to write about gender equality, religious equality. He made Muslims, Hindus, men, women all satisfied something Tagore couldn't.
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u/bringfoodhere Oct 06 '24
He was also an exellent writer of Shyma Shongit (krishna devotional songs).
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u/Acesidmen_N Oct 05 '24
Ghiasuddin Azam Shah the third sultan of the Bengal Sultanate he was a conqueror a patron of arts but most importantly had a profound regard for law he wanted to make the judiciary independent under him the realm stabilized and prospered. He is mainly remembered for his patronage of literary works which includes everything from the Shahnameh to Ramayana.
Ghiasuddin Azam was like Frederick the great of Bengal
the only bad thing about his reign is both his successors and predecessors were shit so Bengal couldn't really become a powerhouse that could challenge the Mughals
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u/suhanbluskydurp 🇧🇩Patriot🇧🇩 Oct 06 '24
Tagore for his humanism and unity no matter who we are.
Kazi Nazrul Islam for his tough bones as a rebel, what he did during his time in the British era is certainly needed for today's political world.
A.K Fazlul Huq for his pro-poor stance during the partition.
Subash Chandra Bose, chittaranjan das, jagadish Bose, satyajit ray and many more, I cannot choose only 1 Bengali out of all these.
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u/Small-Interview-2800 Oct 06 '24
Surprised no one said Tajuddin Ahmed, the real leader of our liberation war
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u/Cheap-Reach1317 Oct 06 '24
Probably cz the new anti-mujib sentiment. Tajuddin was really fond of mujib
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u/came_from_earth Oct 05 '24
Humayun Ahmed. I just want to sit down with him for an hour and talk about life.
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u/Srmkhalaghn Bhejal Sylheti 🇧🇩 ভেজাল ꠡꠤꠟꠐꠤ Oct 05 '24
Ziaur Rahman so I can torture him in hell for settling Bengalis in CHT.
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u/Tight_Wonder_7300 Oct 05 '24
cht mean
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u/Srmkhalaghn Bhejal Sylheti 🇧🇩 ভেজাল ꠡꠤꠟꠐꠤ Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24
Where else in the country can you get free land geabbed for you by the government by displacing the locals?
Are the tribals given free land grabbed from the locals in Dhaka and other parts of the country, and given rations by the government for helping their agenda of displacing the locals? Do tribals in Dhaka burn up entire Bengali localities in response to some tribal criminals being beaten? This is a state-sponsored drive to displace the tribals because the army cannot defeat the armed separatists, they take it out on the civilians by letting settlers do whatever they want against the tribals so that they leave their lands on their own allowing the army to take over more free land to give to you loyalist fokinnis.
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u/PochattorProjonmo Oct 05 '24
বাস্তবতার নিরিখে সোরয়ার্দি এবং এক কে ফজলুল হক ছিল বাংলাদেশের বর্তমান অবস্থার জন্যে ভাল নেতা। তারা সমাজবাদী কিংবা সাম্যবাদী নিতে অতি বিশ্বাসী ছিলেন না। এ বিশ্বে তারা বাংলাদেশকে ভালই নেতৃত্ত্ব দিতে পারতে। মওলানা ভাষানি চীন পন্থি সাম্যবাদী দেশ বানাত। যেটাতে লক্ষ লক্ষ মানুষ না খেয়ে খাকত।
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u/Juiceboi-PRO Oct 05 '24
For me it would be Azam Khan, definitely one of the most influential singers and songwriters in Bengali history
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u/agiwife Oct 05 '24
What wouldn't I give to have leaders like A.K. Fazlul Huq or Bhasani again? I'd even settle for Suhrawardy, Zia, Tajuddin, Ershad or Moshtaque. Anything but the leaders we've had for the past 30 years.
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u/costaccounting Gabtoli to Sayedabad Oct 05 '24
Religious: Sri Chaitanya Political: AK Fazlul Haque Cultural: Satyajit Roy Historical: Sirajuddaula
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u/Srmkhalaghn Bhejal Sylheti 🇧🇩 ভেজাল ꠡꠤꠟꠐꠤ Oct 06 '24
Religious: Sri Chaitanya Political: AK Fazlul Haque Cultural: Satyajit Roy Historical: Sirajuddaula
AK Fazlul Haque and Satyajit Roy both got upvoted in this thread. Wonder which one you are getting downvoted for?
I would be pleasently suprised if it is Sirajuddaulah.
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u/costaccounting Gabtoli to Sayedabad Oct 06 '24
I'm guessing the religious one. Actually i decided that I want to see mir zafar and let him know what his actions led to happen lol
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u/FigAAAro_22 Oct 06 '24
Bhashani definitely is the GOAT!! The way his part of the history has been hidden away from BD textbooks to make way to glorify Suhrawardy’s henchman, does say a lot about the man!!
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u/Much-Refrigerator302 Oct 05 '24
Once I praised maulana shab here. Pajeets thought it was a "Molla". Wanted to burn me!!! Ha ha
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u/the_hipster_nyc Oct 06 '24
Ur mom
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u/T4H4_2004 Oct 06 '24
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u/SeniorObligation6330 Oct 06 '24
Bhashani was ershad of his time , changed loyalty faster than the time required to pronounce 'Bhashani'.
Did you guys know Bhashani actively was against 70s election?
He was anti-india , but guess where he stayed during 71? India.
Didn’t even take a few days for bhashani to express his loyalty to the govt who killed sheikh mujib , served Zia's anti india propaganda by long march to farakka. Basically Hasnat abdullah of the 70s.
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u/tzovro Oct 06 '24
Your perception of him is wrong. He is one of the three most influential Bangali leaders. Though I'm not his fan but I will always defend him.
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u/SeniorObligation6330 Oct 06 '24
what part of my statement is false? enlighten me
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u/tzovro Oct 06 '24
He was anti-1970 election, because he thought the election would be rigged and the parties taking part would lose every legitimate claim of popular representation and in the long run, call for independence. Bangabandhu took part because he was confident that no matter the election result, BD would unite for the call for independence, election rigging would strengthen their cause.
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u/tzovro Oct 06 '24
He was fearful of BD becoming an Indian vassal. He was not anti-India in that sense. Note that he saw an undivided India and he had a soft corner for it. Besides, staying in India in 71 was a necessity
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u/tzovro Oct 06 '24
The period after Bangabandhu's assassination was very tumultuous. What would you have done in a country reeling with war, destruction and famine? Start civil war? Remember Bangabandhu was like a son/brother to him and the mutual respect was too deep to fathom. So anything we do will be nothing but speculation
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u/SeniorObligation6330 Oct 06 '24
everything you are saying sounds like excuses. Like he can do no wrong and cant have any ill motive by himself.
He not only supported the mujib killing govt , he was actually trying desperately to be a part of that till he died. He served them without thinking twice.
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u/tzovro Oct 06 '24
Motive is a matter of proof perceived from one's express action, none of his contemporaries accused him of it. Of course he was prone to mistakes as no one is perfect. So I will give him the benefit of doubt
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u/jeffboomtetris Oct 06 '24
Bhashani was anti-india? Based. Man is earning respect even in his grave
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u/hasibk01 Oct 05 '24
Those who identify that India is our only enemy in this sub continent.
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u/bringfoodhere Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24
He used to write to indira gandhi in 1971 for a plot of land in Assam so that he could retire. In poltics there are no permanant enemies.
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u/RedwanThunderbolt Oct 05 '24
Zia,Fazlul Haque,Bashani,Major MA Jolil,Kazi Nazrul,My forefathers probably. I dont know if it counts but meeting Siraj or Jalaluddin would also be a nice addition.
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