r/UkrainianConflict • u/SerbBelkan • 1d ago

Ukrainian SOF uncovered a North Korean soldier's diary detailing a drone tactic: using a soldier as "bait" to lure Ukrainian drones. The "bait" stands still, hoping the drone pauses, allowing others to shoot it down.

https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.com/post/3le74av2dnk25
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u/johnsmith1234567890x 1d ago

Well...i have better idea:

1) "bait" stops moving

2) "bait" disables the drone using its body

3) repeat until all drones are eliminated or no more bait available

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u/Schnittertm 1d ago

I have an even better idea. Drone operator recognizes bait, looks for the cluster of non-bait soldiers and makes them disable the drone with their bodies. Much better drone to body exchange ratio that way.

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u/DerGuteReis 1d ago

I love a good drone to body exchange ratio.

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u/-Invalid_Selection- 1d ago

The weakness was having a preset kill limit in the killbots, so he just sent wave after wave of men at them.

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u/net1net1 1d ago

It also saves bullets right.

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u/Any-Progress7756 1d ago

lol.. how do they decide who gets to be the bait? :-)

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

There is allways a Master Baiter. They clarified this beforehand in the barracks, man against man.

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u/DarkSideOfGrogu 1d ago

They are all Master Baiters since arriving.

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u/Has_Recipes 1d ago

They gather in a circle and see who jerks the shortest stick.

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u/RuaridhDuguid 1d ago

Many of the NK troops are currently intensively training for this, dedicating all their free time to the pursuit of becoming a top ranker.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

There devotion to becoming the best is almost manic.

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u/shayKyarbouti 1d ago

Sword fight. Loser becomes the bait

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u/Nighters 1d ago

Korean roulette

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u/bedrooms-ds 21h ago

The weakest one, just like how bullying always works.

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u/NappingYG 1d ago

They're mistaking a drone for a t-rex. A very common confusion it seems.

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u/BGM1988 1d ago

Didn’t we recently saw one freezing in front of an FPV?

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u/dave7673 1d ago

Yeah first thing I thought of when I read this. This must be how they got the idea.

Fetal alcohol syndrome means they didn’t realize the tactic is (presumably) intended for grenade-dropping drones that would be much more likely to stop moving over a stationary target and not an FPV drone. Even if there is some logic to it for that situation it’s still wild that this is an actual tactic they’re teaching.

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u/pringlescan5 22h ago

I think the idea is that surrendering soldiers will sometimes act similar to this. So it's kind of like having a soldier surrender to the enemy then shooting the enemy while they are accepting the surrender.

I think just freezing technically isn't against the geneva convention but if they are waving a white flag that is crazy warcrime, false surrenders are a big no no.

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u/-18k- 1d ago

This is some weird shit.

Stuff I expect to see in apocalypse type end of times movies.

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u/Knee_Jerk_Sydney 1d ago

Not really, prior to casualties in battle being a touchy issue, the use of soldiers to flush out ambushes and snipers is a common tactic. It's not sensible these days for a modern army with all that high tech equipment, but then again, NK is probably struggling in this one.

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u/DervoTheReaper 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah, I think that the reason this specifically is weird shit, is the fact that they're risking human lives to try and down hardware that's extremely cheap. It makes me wonder if they don't really understand how many drones Ukraine can buy, and that the only reason there aren't tens/hundreds of thousands flying around at any given time is due to the amount of drone operators they have.

Oh, and yes I realize they're North Koreans and that no one puts any value on their lives, least of all North Korea. I just wonder if the tactics would change if the North Koreans who are being used as bait found out just how cheap drones were, or how many of them Ukraine had.

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u/bedrooms-ds 21h ago

They want to survive. I guess they're picking one poor NKan a time to save their lives.

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u/-18k- 1d ago

I mean, it's jsut insane to see war developing before our eyes. Literally, with drone footage in many cases

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u/Turpentine_Tree 1d ago

It's reality for them.

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u/SEB2502 23h ago

The open-ground meat waves where a couple of guys maybe survive the run, hold position and wait for the next couple of survivors to arrive until they accumulate enough to mount a real attack is the one for me. I get the tactic and thinking behind it, but you never see them using smokescreens, cover/concealment or any kind of actual maneuver to mitigate casualties. Just humping across open fields, getting mowed down and drone-dropped. They have to be drugged up.

Iirc there was even testimony from UKR troops around Bakmut saying this “tactic” was straight up fucking with them mentally. Like zombies.

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u/ExcitedCartoon 1d ago

So North Korean Wild Weasels?

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u/mithridateseupator 1d ago

More like North Korean fainting goats

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u/Dekruk 1d ago

This way nobody returns to tell about foreign countries. win-win.

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u/radome9 1d ago

Using a real, living human being as bait to kill a $200 drone? At least now we know the value Russians put on human lives.

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u/silverfox762 1d ago

This is a new concept for you?

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u/pringlescan5 22h ago

How much do you think Russia is paying per soldier? I'd guess maybe $20,000. That puts a 5,000 soldier army at only $100m which is a pretty good deal for both sides.

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u/SomeoneRandom007 1d ago

I think this is the winning strategy. North Korea needs to practice this 12,000 times to get it perfect.

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u/TWFH 1d ago

I think there are a few different videos of this being attempted, actually. It hasn't worked in any of them, though it's not like drone operators are posting videos of their failures.

I don't see how the risk would outweigh the reward.

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u/Dry-Specialist-1710 1d ago

The drone operator circles the drone near 'bait' other soldiers miss and hit 'bait' / 'bait' hits other soldiers.
The drone operator then takes out gunmen who are now exposed.

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u/eldelshell 1d ago

This answers why we were seeing so many videos of this happening lately.

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u/bedrooms-ds 21h ago

Right, poor NKan standing straight with no hide.

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u/Queasy_Animator_8376 1d ago

Hope is not a tactic.

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u/Ritourne 1d ago

...And their instructions for committing suicide "as a hero of the nation" are: "put the grenade under the chin or under the bulletproof vest"

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u/mithridateseupator 1d ago

Can anyone translate the rest of this?

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u/Dry-Specialist-1710 1d ago

I wonder if the north Koreans know it's controlled remotely by a person or they think it's some sort of mechanical ai

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u/buldozr 1d ago

One Russian officer has been overheard saying to another over a few shots of vodka: "...so this is what I told that Nork." The other, laughing hysterically and slapping his knee: "And he believed you?" The first, totally cracking up: "He wrote it down!"

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u/bedrooms-ds 21h ago

But this is actually how NKans are treated in their homeland to begin with, probably.

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u/Prouddadoffour73 1d ago

I like the way they think. Really speeds up the process.

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u/tenuki_ 1d ago

Wild weasel for drones. Let’s name it.

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u/youpple3 23h ago

If you pull the short stick, you are going to be the bait. That's the game.

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u/No-Weather-5157 1d ago

Question, why is the article about the blond that is showing up with pupper in pics frozen. It comes up but you can’t get to comments or vote.