Healthy weight loss should be rewarded with free/optional excess skin removal and other elective cosmetic surgeries.

[u/slclgbt]

I want to make it clear that there is nothing wrong with excess skin or stretch marks. They are 100% natural, especially if someone is loosing weight or battling obesity.

But I think it would be a huge incentive to those wanting to get healthier if they knew any excess skin they may have can be removed if they would like it to be (without costing an arm and a leg).

[u/TheGreatGoatQueen]

Women aren’t stupid, but they are still susceptive to societal pressure and stigma. It also still hurts to be judged on your the natural appearance of your body, even if you aren’t planning on getting surgery to change it.

In a world where “mommy makeovers” are offered for free, they would be presented as normal and not a luxury, women who don’t get them would be seen as less attractive or strange because the norm is to not have your body be different after pregnancy. Even if you don’t want surgery, normalizing cosmetic surgery to fix natural changes to the body to the point where it’s offered for free helps no one.

[u/throwaway669_663 → u/TheGreatGoatQueen]

Alrighty. Every woman isn’t the same and even if it was the norm every woman would not get it because surgery has its pros and its cons. The cons are also the reason why some women who NEED reductions never get them even though insurance covers it.

Many people would say makeup is something pushed onto women, that they should always look professional and “feminine” every where they go but in REAL LIFE I see many bare faced women wearing sneakers instead of heels for their comfort, Women will do what they want! rightfully so!

Nothing is wrong with wanting surgery! Nothing is wrong with being sad that your body isn’t the way it used to be. That’s normal. Trying to convince women to chin up and accept that now they are moms and their body is just for feeding and nurturing a baby is nuts. It’s okay for moms to want to look good and feel good whether it’s through surgery or gym.

[u/TheGreatGoatQueen → u/throwaway669_663]

But makeup isn’t provided to all women for free by the government. I would say the same thing about that too.

Nothing is wrong with wanting surgery and I never said there was anything wrong with it. What I have a problem with is normalizing it to the point where it’s provided free by the government and not a luxury. Even going to the gym is a luxury, it costs money.

I’m not telling moms to chin up, I think we as a society focus too much on women’s appearances. It should be more normalized for women to accept and love their changing bodies even if they don’t fit the standard of “hot and sexy”.

[u/throwaway669_663 → u/TheGreatGoatQueen]

Yes but I’m showing you that women have autonomy. Women can make choices, women have been forced to conform to femininity before you and I were born and some still chose not to!

So even if the government implemented it which is not even what OP said it was doctors but even if that were the case not all women would get it and we can’t even say most women will because we don’t know!

They have a choice and nothing is wrong with getting a choice to change something you don’t like. Surgery or not.

Also exercising is free so there you have an alternative but loose skin can’t be fixed in the gym.

[u/TheGreatGoatQueen → u/throwaway669_663]

Yes but I’m showing you that women have autonomy. Women can make choices, women have been forced to conform to femininity before you and I were born and some still chose not to!

Yes, and that is totally fine and women should continue to do that if they wish. I never said that they should not.

So even if the government implemented it which is not even what OP said it was doctors but even if that were the case not all women would get it and we can’t even say most women will because we don’t know!

I would agree that not all women would get it, but providing something like cosmetic surgery for free when necessary things like the dentist or cancer treatments costs money sends the message that looks are more important than health.

They have a choice and nothing is wrong with getting a choice to change something you don’t like. Surgery or not.

And I agree with that. But what I don’t agree with is providing it for free when actual necessities are not.

[u/throwaway669_663 → u/TheGreatGoatQueen]

Yes but it’s a hypothetical no one is saying cosmetic surgery is more important or a NEED. We are just playing on an opinion of what if. There are many other things to combat but I saw the mention of surgery, loose skin and stretch marks and those things are experienced by some mothers. That’s it.

Also anyone who would want free cosmetic surgeries would most definitely co-sign free health care first but that’s not the topic at hand.