r/TellMeAFact • u/jcrazy78 • Nov 15 '22

TMAF About Elon Musk That Would Make Fanbois Change Their Opinions Of Him

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u/hollowgram Nov 16 '22

He created Hyperloop merely to destroy initiatives to build high-speed rails. Nothing has come of this even a decade later, and the money they spent went to very ineffective solutions.

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u/Sloppy_Donkey Nov 23 '22

created Hyperloop merely to destroy initiatives

This links to a paywall. Why would Elon Musk be interested to destroy high-speed rails? Doesn't sound very believable to me. At best, he had the good intention to build a better alternative but failed. Very different though than claiming his motivation was to destroy high-speed rails without gaining anything from it

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u/hollowgram Nov 23 '22

The man sells cars and you have difficulty believing it’s in his interest to prevent improvements to public transportation? May the absolute lack of results be proof for its scam.

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u/Sloppy_Donkey Nov 23 '22

You realize Tesla sells cars globally and a single failed train project in the US is not even going to increase global car demand by 0.01%?

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u/hollowgram Nov 23 '22

That’s not the point I was making. Anyways, here’s a source.

As I explained in my book, Elon Musk admitted to his biographer that he only announced Hyperloop because he wanted California’s high-speed rail system to get canceled. Even though he’s lauded for innovation, he’s constantly trying to stifle any efforts to get people out of cars.

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u/Sloppy_Donkey Nov 24 '22

Where is the primary source? This is a link to an anti-tech, anti-Elon Musk author that is trying to sell his book. I'm not surprised he would make such a claim - but can I see the quote from the biographer?

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u/hollowgram Nov 24 '22

Musk has a long track record of disliking public transport, what is the contention?

Hyperloop as originally proposed was ludicrous and could never work. The first prototype in Cali that was radically different from the vacuum-sealed vision first laid out has even been dismantled and all that remains is a single-lane tunnel in Vegas where a Tesla takes you slowly from one end to the next.

Despite taking in millions in taxpayer money the initiative has done nothing but fail. It’s a travesty that siphons money from other realistic endeavours that would benefit the masses.

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u/flipamadiggermadoo Nov 16 '22

Elon Musk is a draft dodger.

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u/korowal Nov 16 '22

I'd say that Musk fan boys are fairly libertarian, right? I'd imagine they'd celebrate evasion of heavy state power.

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u/flipamadiggermadoo Nov 16 '22

He's a loose one, I know some that absolutely are Libertarian yet others that are die hard Trumpers who claim many Dems are draft dodgers, whiletheirguy got deferment forhimself. I honestly don't have any liberal friends that have been big on Elon for about the last year and a half. Before, they loved his Tesla's and the awesome things Space X was doing, but his support of Republicans and newly purchased Twitter seems to have completely persuaded them to abandon any inkling of support they once had. He garnered a little support over his deployment of Starlink to Ukraine but his subsequent threats to remove or charge the Pentagon for the service probably lost him more supporters than he had before the deployment.

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u/Scared-Conflict-653 Nov 16 '22

Honestly Liberals turned on him, not because he switched to Libertarian side. It's because he started during the pandemic. He made a threat to his workers about "if they want to stay home during the pandemic, then you can stay there", and the arguable stock manipulation of crypto, he posted he spent a billion dollars, hyped it up then pulled his money out the moment it shot up then just kept getting worse. The libertarian thing is fine, he just became a dick after.

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u/flipamadiggermadoo Nov 16 '22

Great points on two things I'd completely spaced of him doing. Musk is a busy guy.

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u/Riceball2019 Nov 16 '22

Would you join an army to enforce Apartheid laws? Are all armies the same?

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u/flipamadiggermadoo Nov 16 '22

No, would you join an army you knew was in recent history (last 30 years) used almost exclusively to fund oil deals for companies such as Haliburton and ensure other companies such as Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc. could earn trillions while your brothers and sisters were maimed and killed beside you? A lot of us did because we bought into the patriotism b.s. after 9/11 and millions more will over the next few years. I'm not calling Musk a bad guy for draft dodging, just that a lot of his supporters are the same people calling certain Dems draft dodgers over the past couple decades which is something "Fanbois" might use to "Change Their Opinions Of Him" like the title asks.

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u/Jazeboy69 Nov 16 '22

That’s kind of the point though. Why is draft dodging a bad thing if it supports questionable systems?

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u/flipamadiggermadoo Nov 16 '22

It's not a bad thing, my whole reason for bringing it up is in response to the OP's question regarding how to get Musk's "Fanboi's" to disown him. I'm claiming that some of his "fanboi's," not all, disowned politicians in the past when they discovered that the politician had gotten draft deferrals so therefore it's possible they'd do the same to Musk when they learned he was a draft dodger himself. It's all about the OP.

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u/Riceball2019 Nov 16 '22

Thanks for the context.

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u/Sloppy_Donkey Nov 23 '22

draft dodger.

Drafts are immoral. Every human has a right to their own life. Taking away a single day, let alone more than a year, is deeply wrong. The only reason it is tolerated is because it serves the collective and the elite so individual injustice like that is accepted. However, if you view things from first principles it's pretty clear how wrong the draft is.

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u/flipamadiggermadoo Nov 23 '22

I agree. The answer I gave was due to a lot of Elon's base being the same people that put down draft dodging politicians.

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u/PMMEYOURANIMALS Nov 16 '22

So was trump… see where that got us