r/SocialismIsCapitalism Nov 15 '24

This guy was trying to make the argument that schools only ever teach that slavery happened from white people in America because they want to instill white guilt. Then he dropped this banger!

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u/adminsaredoodoo Nov 16 '24

socialism revolves around the profit motive silly 🙄

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u/sammypants123 Nov 16 '24

Socialism is when many people work for literally no reward. All the money gets taken by the rich. Very socialist that.

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u/Dick__Kickem Nov 17 '24

Im sure that particular flavour of socialism has a word, something about all the capital going to a few and everyone else suffering and fighting over the remains. 100% there is some form of "ism" involving the word capital just can't quite think of it.

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u/blodskaal Nov 17 '24

He could just google what socialism is. Why don't people google it?

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u/SadPandaFromHell Nov 17 '24

Because they have "Ideological main character" syndrome. They are like "I'm in a capatalist society, and my society is the good guys!"

And then when they hear anything about how maybe, just maybe, America are not "the good guys", he blames socialism.

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u/GNSGNY tankie Nov 20 '24

"learn economics" is the neolib equivalent of "read the bible"

those who actually learn it, want nothing to do with it

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u/SadPandaFromHell Nov 20 '24 edited Nov 20 '24

Funnily enough- this is the most accurate metaphore you could make. ( you probably know that, but I'll explain for anyone who might not understand).

Using marxist theory on "base and superstructure", , the base (economic foundation/means of production) during feudalism was based on agriculture. This means those who owned land were king. Then you have the superstructure (cultural, political, and ideological systems) that grew from that base. Religious structures like Christianity during feudalistic times basically acted as the government- meaning the "kings" (who were selected by legacy) were given legitimacy to rule under the "power of god".

When you map the same logic to current society- we have a capatalistic base (where private individuals and businesses own the means of production. Capital owners are king not the president btw, president are not king.). And we have a neoliberalistic superstructure, where net worth and businesses acumen are used to give those who rule legitimacy under the "power of the economy".

So in litteral one to one comparison:

Feudalism: "read the bible=learn superstructure"

Capatalism: "learn economics=learn superstucture"

Finally, I'll point out- nowadays we have culturally evolved to acknowledge that a rejection of god does not have any serious impacts- only social ones. Just as someday, we will learn that a rejection of wealth does not need to have serious impacts, only social ones.

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u/Ecstatic-Compote-595 Nov 19 '24

just completely untrue, we absolutely learned this in the North east US. As well as other historical examples of slavery.