r/ShitSettlersSay • u/RedactedCommie • Oct 01 '20

White person with zero connection to any indigenous cultures wants to identify as indigenous

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '20

Elizabeth warren

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u/digoryk Oct 02 '20

Person with Native American ancestors wants to say they have Native American ancestors.

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u/RedactedCommie Oct 02 '20

They have zero cultural connection, can't even name a specific tribe, are beyond white. All this does is fuck over indigenous people and further white wash them. It's not even comparible to white passing indigenous people whom often are enrolled, understand their culture and partake in their communities and can trace their heritage.

Like at this stage I might as well say I'm black because I have a vague ancestral connection tens of thousands of years ago to Africa.

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u/digoryk Oct 02 '20

That was exactly what the whole Indian boarding school/"kill the Indian, save the man" strategy was going for, if you kick out this person that wants to be Indian, you're helping that strategy succeed. To save Indian culture, teach it to people like this (or even full blooded Europeans) don't kick them out, the colonizers always hoped that the children of Indians would not be able to be Indian themselves.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '21

Yeah, honestly I dont get this guy's problem.

For instance, what does that say about indigenous people south of the border? Because we suffered through a white supremacist autocracy that tried to actively erase all aspects of our cultures and later through intermixing, el blancamiento, we are not native anymore? millions and millions of natives in latin america have no tribe affiliation and yet they dare say they are not native to these lands? The lack of respect to our individual struggles here while demanding I do the same for their bullshit is baffling.

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u/djeekay Jan 07 '21

Edit 2: Hey all! I'm overwhelmed by the support I've received here, but I wanted to clear something up really quickly. I'm not going around saying that I'm Native American. All I'm doing is listing Native American among my ancestors. I'm not Native, because I did not grow up on a reservation, and I did not grow up in that culture. I just have Native ancestors, that's all.

They also literally never claimed to have a First nations cultural connection in the original post. She literally only ever said "I have recent indigenous ancestors". That's not cultural appropriation, any more than my saying "my mother's maiden name was Jewish" is an appropriation of Jewish culture. "I am descended from these people" isn't cultural. And this isn't a "my great grandmother was a Cherokee princess!!!" situation either, she has recent indigenous ancestry and immediate family members who aren't white passing.

If she were claiming to be a First nations person you'd be right, but she simply isn't. Just that she has recent ancestors who were.