r/Residency PGY5 14h ago

SIMPLE QUESTION Can bone Mets cause bone problems even after they get in remission?

My buddy has a patient who is done with chemo in remission, but says they are in constant pain in the hip there bone Mets where. It was pretty big he told me I didn't see any patient identifying information ofc he just told me what i just told y'all lol.

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u/zappydoc 14h ago

If the tumour has damaged enough bone then there can be insufficiency pain. There may also be nerve damage.

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u/Fabulous_James 10h ago

How would a tumour cause insufficiency pain?

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u/LR-over-NS PGY4 9h ago

Tumor eats up enough femur > even if it scleroses down there’s less healthy bone to weight bear > stress change > insufficiency Fx

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u/AneurysmClipper PGY5 9h ago

Thank you doc. Just curious what the treatment would be PT?

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u/LR-over-NS PGY4 9h ago

I’m not an ortho onc so idk, either conservative or prophylactic fixation if there truly is an impending Fx (but they have to be pretty big or eat enough of the weight bearing cortex to do that ). I’m sure there’s articles on there on the management of pain after bone Mets

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u/AneurysmClipper PGY5 9h ago

Thank you. when I get off In a few hours ima do my research

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u/QuietRedditorATX 14h ago

It makes sense to me.

Your body doesn't just magically fill in with new healthy bone. A lot of damage and distortion was done. And then more damage was done when the drugs/radiation killed everything off.

We get a fever and feel sick from a fee neutrophils during an infection. Your friend just had a swarm of inflammatory cells trying to clean up all of this dead tissue and debris.

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u/AneurysmClipper PGY5 9h ago

Thank you !

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u/JROXZ Attending 4h ago

Also. You can have rampant fibrosis and remodeling causing the bone to expand/warp = pain.

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u/bushgoliath Fellow 6m ago

Anecdotally, a ton of my patients report this. I honestly don't know the biology behind it. But there's something about the remodeling that happens when patients lay down new bone that results in a lot of chronic discomfort. Never heard about excruciating pain outside of an underlying pathologic fracture, but very common to hear patients tell me that they "still feel the tumor" or that it's just a low level, constant pressure feeling.