r/ROI • u/CautiousListen5914 • Oct 15 '24

🇺🇸 AmeriKKKa Top 10 pro-Ukrainian talking points - and why they're nonsense.

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u/gaukluxklan Oct 15 '24

woah, that's a ton a gibberish. Putin's Russia is not only "not a democracy", it is perhaps the worst example of a capitalist state run by plutocrats. Be it Gaza, Iraq or Ukraine, no country or people "deserve" an invasion. Also, Putin's biggest supporters in the west consist of some of worst group of human scum on earth. And Russia under Putin actively encourage white nationalist movements, anti-immigrant rhetoric, and white-replacement sorta conspiracy theories all across the western hemisphere. What that has anything to do with communism? Why some Marxists here simp for Putler of all people I will never understand.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

it is perhaps the worst example of a capitalist state run by plutocrats

Ever heard of a place called the USA? Seriously man, that's a ludicrous claim.

Be it Gaza, Iraq or Ukraine, no country or people "deserve" an invasion

Fascist dictatorships deserve to be invaded and their leadership toppled, in all cases.

Also, Putin's biggest supporters in the west consist of some of worst group of human scum on earth.

Perhaps that's true, but supporters of the USA are definitley the worst group of human scum on earth.

And Russia under Putin actively encourage white nationalist movements, anti-immigrant rhetoric, and white-replacement sorta conspiracy theories all across the western hemisphere.

You've been listening to too much propaganda mate.

What that has anything to do with communism? Why some Marxists here simp for Putler of all people I will never understand.

Don't sell yourself short man. You can understand anything if you study hard enough. Keep asking questions like this one.

Russia stands in opposition to the most murderous and destructive regime on the planet and is successfully defeating it in its arena in the Ukraine. Russia is not communist no, but for the moment it's furthering history by helping to bring about the demise of the USA and the genocidal world order of the west.

Here's some background reading material on the causes of America's war.

- Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?

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u/statsi_stasi Oct 15 '24

mate I believe you are being tag teamed by Stamer and Blinken right now.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Oct 15 '24

The Ukraine psyop has been a powerful one. It's going to take years for some people. Imagine believing the USA at the end of 2024.

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u/CoolNebula1906 Oct 15 '24

Dude came with a whole google document worth of links. Such an obvious bot

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u/spoongus23 Oct 15 '24

“you have proof to back up your claims, that makes you a bot”

lmao

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u/CoolNebula1906 Oct 15 '24

Google document

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u/gaukluxklan Oct 16 '24

This bending over backwards to normalize the horrible, murderous, regime of Putin, to spite another horrible, murderous regime, is beyond cringe to say the least. Putin's very existence is an anti-thesis of what Marx and Lenin ever stood for. Motherfucker build a billion dollar palace for himself ffs.

So US meddled in Ukrainian elections? So does Russia, not just in Ukraine, but is every major EU democracy. Trump is basically a Putin puppet at this point. Is that how you want to justify Putin's invasion of Ukraine? Really?

You've been listening to too much propaganda mate.

Closing your eyes to reality and getting all your "facts" from Russian sources sounds pretty propogandish to me. Just last month, Two RT employees were charged for covertly funding a bunch of white-nationalist propogandists in America. If Putin was so anti-fascist, why Aleksandr Dugin, the neo-fascist and a rabid anti-communist, who is widely regarded as some sort of messiah among white-nationalist idiots world-over, is allowed to thrive in Russia? The entire white-nationalist ecosystem of the west thrives on Putin's money and Russian state run media networks like RT. You don't see the pattern here? If presence of Nazis in Ukraine was a good enough reason to invade that country, Russia might have to invade itself first, and then may be half of America.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Oct 16 '24

Nobody is normalising anything here.

So US meddled in Ukrainian elections?

Never heard of that. I did hear of them funding arming and training Nazis to overthrow Ukraine's democracy however.

So does Russia, not just in Ukraine, but is every major EU democracy.

This is more of genocidal America's propaganda. Trump is basically a Putin puppet at this point.

getting all your "facts" from Russian sources

I don't have any Russian sources. I linked you to a load of sources, none of them Russian.

The entire white-nationalist ecosystem of the west thrives on Putin's money and Russian state run media networks like RT. You don't see the pattern here? If presence of Nazis in Ukraine was a good enough reason to invade that country, Russia might have to invade itself first, and then may be half of America.

You've already been shown plenty of examples of anti-fascist policy of Russia and you're linking to more American propaganda websites and universities.

Russia is not engaging in a genocide at the moment. The USA is along with its lackeys in the west. Russia is a far more benign state than the world's most murderous and destructive regime. You need to accept that.

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u/blondedredditor Oct 16 '24

Dugin isn’t a white nationalist

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u/Disastrous-Bus-9834 Oct 16 '24

Fascist dictatorships deserve to be invaded and their leadership toppled, in all cases.

Saddam fits that category

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u/NoRestDays94 Oct 15 '24

NATO called, they said it's time for you to suck them off in person.

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u/CoolNebula1906 Oct 15 '24

He didnt even mention NATO lmfao. Putin bots are the only "leftists" who support the oligarchical post-soviet capitalist state.

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u/blondedredditor Oct 16 '24

This is the new multi polarity. America and the west must fall. We must be more lenient when it comes to who we do and don’t support regarding that end

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u/CoolNebula1906 Oct 16 '24

Ah, its the new made-up post-marxist bullshit that the rightoids have created to mislead real marxists. Its not leftist to support one capitalist power over another, youre just an illiberal liberal.

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u/gaukluxklan Oct 15 '24

triggered Putler bot alert