"Vote Biden bro. Who cares about a genocide in Gaza bro? Trump is a fascist bro! Biden is the most left president in a long time bro. Have you heard about Russia and China bro!?!"

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u/_sonisalsonamedBort Minister of Procrastination Jul 02 '24

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If you think that Trump is gonna be better for Gaza you're mad.

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u/RasherSambos FatHeadDave86 Jul 02 '24

Trump is a turbo zionist but Israel are doing what they want in Gaza any way and Biden is still sending arms so i doubt thered be any noticeable differe t to Palestinians either way. Its not like Biden is restraining Israel in any way.

Trump may commit to supporting Israel if they expand their war into Lebanon but i doubt the US military commanders want that right now with everything else going on.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

I’m not a Biden defender in any way and don’t buy into it but certainly Trump is rhetorically out flanking Biden by saying he will recognise the annexation of the West Bank the same way he did with Golan Heights and is using Palestinian as an insult

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u/Dark_Ansem Jul 02 '24

Eh trump literally said he'd give green light to Bibi to "finish the job" and in 4 years he bombed more than Obama in 8. You sure the fascist dictator is a safer bet?

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u/RasherSambos FatHeadDave86 Jul 02 '24

Yeah but thats pretending like Biden is giving any red lights. So hes just talking shite to his base.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Jul 02 '24

Do you support genocide in Gaza? Yes or no.

Supporting either candidate is a yes.

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u/Dark_Ansem Jul 02 '24

There's only these two. Are you suggesting the flying spaghetti monster?

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u/CautiousListen5914 Jul 02 '24

You don't have to support either. Nobody is forcing you to support either genocidal candidate. You can reject the ridiculous charade entirely. You are not responsible for any of it. Are you even American?

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u/Dark_Ansem Jul 02 '24

Rejecting it doesn't mean that it won't happen, duh. Do you believe the world goes away when you close your eyes?

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u/CautiousListen5914 Jul 02 '24

Yes it will still happen, the difference will be that you won't be complicit in enabling it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

All Americans are complicit. Not voting doesn’t make you not complicit or not enabling it. That’s very dumb. Being vocally anti war and organising is how you stop enabling.

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u/Dark_Ansem Jul 02 '24

See, if I were to think Ill of you I'd say you are actively rooting for an unchecked trump win.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Jul 02 '24

But you'd be wrong, because I support neither. You on the other hand are openly supporting genocide Joe? Do I have that right?

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u/CautiousListen5914 Jul 02 '24

This is exactly the take that the meme is taking the piss out of.

Nobody said Trump was better. Neither of them are better, both are genocidal scum.

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u/Dark_Ansem Jul 02 '24

The meme is stupid then, and not just that I suspect. Even the ones who think it's funny.

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u/Wise_Adhesiveness746 Jul 02 '24

But on the other hand,voting Biden endorses arming an active genocide.....it deosnt get worse than that

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u/Dark_Ansem Jul 02 '24

It does, with Trump at the helm.

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u/Wise_Adhesiveness746 Jul 02 '24

What is worse than arming an active genocide and providing cover from consequences of it at the UN?

People need never support to trump,but cannot vote Biden without endorsing arming an active genocide,

the worst of worst human rights abuses have been committed there,while the US indemnifies the Israel from consequences at the UN......I find it unfathomable that people will vote for this

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u/Dark_Ansem Jul 02 '24

What is worse than arming an active genocide and providing cover from consequences of it at the UN?

Actively participating in it. And what exactly do you think the UN can do? The ICJ is the one that matters.

People need never support to trump,but cannot vote Biden without endorsing arming an active genocide,

So basically you'd have a trump presidency which would remove even putative checks on Israel. You're insane.

I find it unfathomable that people will vote for this

And I find both unfathomable and in bad faith that you fail to understand this is "but her emails" all over again

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u/Wise_Adhesiveness746 Jul 02 '24

And what exactly do you think the UN can do

Order an stop and enact embargoes againest arms entering the country

The ICJ is the one that matters.

Is it true America threatens to bomb this court,if ever a us war criminal should end up there?

which would remove even putative checks on Israel

They are actively carrying out a genocide,these checks don't do anything as it is.....voting to endorse arming an active genocide is worse

unfathomable and in bad faith that you fail to understand this is "but her emails

Arming an active genocide and providing cover from consequences is multiple times more serious than any fringe conspiracy theories

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u/Dark_Ansem Jul 03 '24

yeah you think the US will bomb the Hague, be serious

not voting and ensuring a fascist unhinged candidate gets in worse.

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u/Wise_Adhesiveness746 Jul 03 '24

yeah you think the US will bomb the Hague

Haven't they legislated for this?

not voting and ensuring a fascist unhinged candidate gets in worse.

Worse than voting to endorse arming an active genocide?

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u/Dark_Ansem Jul 03 '24

Haven't they legislated for this?

If you think the US will simply bomb in the middle of Europe, you're insane. No wonder you are doing your best to ensure an unhinged fascist gets into the WH.

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u/RasherSambos FatHeadDave86 Jul 01 '24

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u/RasherSambos FatHeadDave86 Jul 01 '24

Remember when it was all about Dark Brandon and it was so corny and cringy and then it was dropped and now its just good old Joe "tells slightly less lies" Biden.

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u/RetroIrishViking Jul 02 '24

All politicians are bad. You get where you want by manipulating people whether you want to or not. Also Dems and Liberals, and left wingers over here unfortunately use their(our) politicians as moral pariahs compared to the right, and then when they come out as just as shite, they (we) look like total fools.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Jul 02 '24

Ah shur whatevs then, they're all the same. Nothing matters.

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u/RetroIrishViking Jul 02 '24

I mean of course vote for the policies you want, but don't think that because the "other guy" sucks, that your guy doesn't just also suck.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Jul 02 '24

of course vote for the policies you want,

The policies I want are not being offered as options.

but don't think that because the "other guy" sucks, that your guy doesn't just also suck.

Preach it brother.

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u/RetroIrishViking Jul 02 '24

Well this is the issue with voting in the US, and occasionally in Ireland. The topics and policies you want are not usually advertised as they are likely either fringe, or not necessarily mainstream

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u/CautiousListen5914 Jul 02 '24

It's the issue with Bourgeois Democracy in general.

🇺🇸 AmeriKKKa "Vote Biden bro. Who cares about a genocide in Gaza bro? Trump is a fascist bro! Biden is the most left president in a long time bro. Have you heard about Russia and China bro!?!"

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