r/ROI • u/Select-Ad7881 • Nov 06 '23
🇺🇸 AmeriKKKa Yous notice we haven't heard a peep out of the Sinophobic "left" here about this actual, real genocide?
I remember not so long ago that this sub used to be clogged up with right wing conspiracy theories about a supposed genocide of millions of people in China.
Why would it be that people would be up in arms about spurious American allegations of a genocide in China but completely silent about an American genocide of Palestinians?
Theories below.
EDIT1: One hour in. No theories so far, just panicky defence of America and denial of its involvement. Lol what is this sub?
EDIT2: Two hours later, nobody can even hypothesise why the r/ROI users aren't frothing at the mouth like they were about the "Uighur genocide".
EDIT: No sign of even the anarcho-Nazi lads trying to blame Hamas. Looks like Conor is hiding out after being exposed as working for an Israeli company. Which was hilarious.
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u/FirstnameNumbers1312 Nov 06 '23
I don't know if I called out China's actions on this sub but I've been perfectly happy to call out both Chinas cultural genocide of the Uighur population and Israels genocide in Palestine.
In both cases the only people who deny the charges of genocide are western apologists for the aggressors, both the Chinese and Israeli governments are perfectly clear about what they're doing.
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u/tankieandproudofit 🙀 Anarkiddie Nov 06 '23
Yet when you're here its to spread anti-communism or zionist propaganda.
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u/FirstnameNumbers1312 Nov 06 '23
Aren't you that Nazi that keeps defending the Zionist lie that supporting Palestine means supporting the mass murder of innocent civilians??
Yeah you're super pro Palestine my dude, definitely not just a bloodthirsty sociopath.
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u/Ghost_of_Hamas Nov 06 '23
One there is no evidence for, the other we can see children being blown into pieces on a daily basis.
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u/FirstnameNumbers1312 Nov 07 '23
The Chinese government has openly admitted to and bragged about it.
You're a mirror image of the Liberals who defend israel to the hilt. They'll cravenly defend any and all actions by Israel, denying the Genocide even as Israeli ministers are openly admitting to it. You'll defend China, Russia, Iran, Syria, (in practice most fascist regiemes so long as they aren't pro US) in the exact same way.
You're a "radical", but not a leftist. Your rebellion is to just be the opposite of the current liberal atlanticist consensus. Which means you're only right by pure chance and coincidence. If Israel had of gone down the communist road, like Stalin had hoped, you'd be proudly and loudly denying any and all crimes against the Palestinian.
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u/Superb-Notice8714 Nov 07 '23
The Chinese government has openly admitted to and bragged about it.
Source or STFU.
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u/Select-Ad7881 Nov 06 '23
happy to call out both Chinas cultural genocide of the Uighur population
This is a far right conspiracy theory spread by the USA.
In both cases you right wing nutcases spread American propaganda.
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u/paddydasniper Nov 06 '23
This must be he who shall not be named. Calling everyone who doesn't agree with their PoV a right wing -insert today's choice of insult-
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u/FirstnameNumbers1312 Nov 07 '23
China is incredibly open about it.
You deny it just because that's what you Want to believe.
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u/Ghost_of_Hamas Nov 06 '23
That's because they want a genocide in China just like they want this genocide of Palestinians.
The only difference is that one is actually happening so they're silent, and the one that's not happening they dream of.
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u/paddydasniper Nov 06 '23
Is it America committing genocide against Palestinians?
It's very clearly the Israeli state that is, stop reaching.
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u/WuQianNian Nov 06 '23
we arm them, pay for it, run interference for them in the UN to do it, share intelligence and have a carrier group offshore and drones over gaza right now
yes, america is committing genocide against palestinians
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u/spaghettiAstar Nov 06 '23
Don’t “we” us, yank.
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u/WuQianNian Nov 06 '23
we. america. the tall ones with plausible dicks. not you.
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u/PeterFuckinCasey tankie Nov 06 '23
I hate to break it to you but 5'9 isn't tall.
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u/WuQianNian Nov 06 '23
it's regional, tall parts of america include where i live, short parts include the south and ireland (a us territory)
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u/PeterFuckinCasey tankie Nov 06 '23
Cope
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u/WuQianNian Nov 07 '23
leperchaun
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u/PeterFuckinCasey tankie Nov 07 '23
Cope
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u/WuQianNian Nov 07 '23
You’re taking issue with the height part of that but don’t have anything to say about the dick part for some reason
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u/Select-Ad7881 Nov 06 '23 edited Nov 06 '23
Yes, it's US/Israel. What relevance do you think the US support of the genocide has then?
The actual full throated support.
The actual funding for the genocide.
The providing the weapons to carry out the genocide.
The refusing to ask for a ceasefire.
The voting down UN motions for an end to the genocide.
Nah, the US has nothing to do with it at all.
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u/paddydasniper Nov 06 '23
I'm sorry is Israel also the US? You said that America is committing the genocide, no mention of Israel until it was pointed out.
Sure you should criticize and condemn the US support of Israel during this time. But it's not the US killing the Palestinians. Israelis are.
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u/Select-Ad7881 Nov 06 '23
Do you have any response to my comment above? I even listed them out in bullet points for you.
But it's not the US killing the Palestinians. Israelis are.
Not really, it's actually weapons that are doing it, Israel is only controlling them. Reductive bullshit to make excuses for the USA.
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u/paddydasniper Nov 06 '23
My response was very clearly Condemn the US for their support of Israel.
Israel is the state committing genocide stop trying to deflate it and deflect it to the US.
By your logic Sweden committed genocide during WW2, they provided Germany with material goods throughout the war.
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u/tankieandproudofit 🙀 Anarkiddie Nov 06 '23
The relationship between Sweden and nazi Germany during ww2 is completely different from the US israeli one, why are you pretending like it isn't?
And for the record we were absolutely complicit.
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u/paddydasniper Nov 06 '23
But being complicit is not the same as committing it, agreed?
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u/tankieandproudofit 🙀 Anarkiddie Nov 06 '23
Why are you trying to go full akshually? It's very obvious what OP meant
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u/paddydasniper Nov 06 '23
completely silent about an American genocide of Palestinians?
Because they are stating that it's America's genocide of Palestinians. That's what OP said. I'm not putting words in their mouth. If they meant something else, then they should have stated it.
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u/tankieandproudofit 🙀 Anarkiddie Nov 06 '23
Again, seeing as America can stop it literally whenever they want to and is funding the genocide and has been doing so for the last 70 years I dont think it's that wrong to infact put the responsibility on America
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u/Batman_Biggins God save the Queeeeeen!! Nov 06 '23
Not really, it's actually weapons that are doing it, Israel is only controlling them.
There's a lot of arguments you could have made to support your point, and yet for some reason you went for the silliest one possible.
If I didn't know any better I'd say you're a paid Israeli shill, trying to make the pro-Palestine crowd look bad.
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u/Ghost_of_Hamas Nov 06 '23
Did the British commit war crimes in Northern Ireland?
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u/paddydasniper Nov 06 '23
Yes? Their troops were stationed in Northern Ireland?
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u/Ghost_of_Hamas Nov 06 '23
Cool.
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u/paddydasniper Nov 06 '23
What sort of gotcha were you trying to go for there exactly? Hoping I would say no?
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u/tankieandproudofit 🙀 Anarkiddie Nov 06 '23
Israel is very obviously a satellite for the US empire and rather than stressing constantly how much the US is behind Israel in its genocide both in material (14 billion, aircraft carriers) and in rhetorical ways the US could literally have a ceasefire through tomorrow if they pressured Israel to do so. But they wont, why would they stop Israel when the lapdog is doing so well.
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u/Select-Ad7881 Nov 06 '23
But anyway, what's your theory then?
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u/paddydasniper Nov 06 '23
What do you mean what's my theory? There's been a landslide of condemnation of Israel on here?
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u/Select-Ad7881 Nov 06 '23
I see two accounts posting. Kirk and ghost. Show me yours.
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u/paddydasniper Nov 06 '23
I've participated in conversations regarding this, sorry that it's hard to have those these days with the mountain of spam posts.
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Nov 06 '23
What’s this about “regime change Costick” working for an Israeli company? Is that why I hadn’t seen anything from him. I also wondered how he would deal with a real genocide and not one of his state department organized “color revolutions”.
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Nov 06 '23
China is the yellow peril menace to many of these racist faux "leftists" anything they do has to be denounced in the strongest possible terms while their government doing something worse is brushed off and ignored. It is Campism, siding with one imperialism over another.
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u/Anon1234Myself Nov 06 '23
By the same token: how come you weren't calling out China for their genocide of the Uyghurs?
And didn't you go on and on about how Ukrainians shouldn't fight back against a stronger Russian invasion, but should instead save lives by allowing themselves to be occupied? Should the Palestinians also do that?
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u/cabeep Nov 07 '23
When it comes to Muslims being killed for their political side, they support that shit
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u/Fantastipotomus Nov 06 '23
The yanks are mad for the mass murder of civilians but its the Israelis at it this time.