r/PublicFreakout Oct 01 '24

šŸŒŽ World Events Missile impacts in Israel

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u/SpiritOfFire013 Oct 01 '24

I work for a major brokerage firm here in the US, and something interesting happened today. The markets are down, greatly in part to the tensions in the Middle East. Yet, while most everything is down, the defense sector is up. Lockheed, Northrop, Raytheon, and others recorded new 52 week highs today. War is making the rich richer, go figure.

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u/fattytuna96 Oct 01 '24 edited Oct 01 '24

Markets are a bit down because of the dockworker strikes

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u/BlackStorm615 Oct 01 '24

All this plus Q4 starting makes for a volatile market day

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u/nekonight Oct 01 '24

Not to mention the recent China manufacturing stats does not look good.

Plenty of reasons for markets to go down beyond war in the middle east which the market has been preparing for 6 days short of a year now.

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u/riley_srt4 Oct 01 '24

Mind informing the uninformed?

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u/Wbcn_1 Oct 01 '24

Heā€™s a salesman, not an analyst.Ā 

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u/Micycle08 Oct 01 '24

Well, Lockheed/Northrop/Raytheon just havenā€™t figured out a way to shooā€¦ profit from their death liberate(?) those dock workers. Yetā€¦

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u/StickersBillStickers Oct 01 '24

There is power in a union šŸ’ŖšŸ¼

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u/ContentInsanity Oct 01 '24

Thats not all they said. They said defense contractor stocks went up despite everything else going down. Defense contractor stocks always spike right before a major incident, without fail. These acts of "retaliation" are also communicated via back channels before they actually happen, so its not like the stocks just so happened to be up.

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u/druuuval Oct 02 '24

As a general rule of diversification I always keep a few war stocks in the portfolio.

Cause I was raised in America and I know that at any given moment, we are probably an incident away from invading somewhere to bring peace and prosperity to someone who hates us

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u/SpiritOfFire013 Oct 01 '24

For sure, there are a myriad of variables, but geopolitical tensions are a part of the tapestry.

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u/fattytuna96 Oct 01 '24

Dockworker strikes are a bigger component, Israel has been at war with Iran for a while now and the market is constantly pumping to all time highs. Dockworker strikes on the East Coast directly affects the US consumer supply chain and is argued to have a greater impact than the Middle East ongoing conflict

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u/SpiritOfFire013 Oct 01 '24

Not in regards to mil/aero though. Iā€™m not saying itā€™s the only reason the market is down.

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u/Anon159023 Oct 01 '24

Milo/Aero is less impacted by the strikes, there is less just in time deliveries and more in house manufacturing.

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u/Awpss Oct 01 '24

This is normal stock market shit.. if you worked for a ā€œmajor brokerage firmā€ then that would not be very interesting to you.. considering that same situation happens with different industries pretty much every day.

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u/SpiritOfFire013 Oct 01 '24

Sure, how things are moving and play out, are all in well defined parameters, but I do in fact find it fascinating. In this specific example. Geopolitics and the current climate of the world in its regards, really pique my interests.

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u/junkit33 Oct 01 '24

That's not "interesting", that's completely standard market behavior when the threat of war heightens. People are just moving their money into war stocks.

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u/hoopaholik91 Oct 01 '24

Kind of sad that someone that works at a brokerage firm knows so little about the market. Although since he said "at a brokerage firm" instead of "broker" I'm guessing he probably works in something completely unrelated like HR or sales and somehow thinks that gives him enough cache to make statements from a position of authority.

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u/mecengdvr Oct 01 '24

Itā€™s Reddit, he may not work in a brokerage firm but threw that in there to get more credibility. They could also be the janitor or someone else with no actual working knowledge of the stock market.

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u/BBQ_HaX0r Oct 01 '24

You think someone with that level of understanding actually works at a brokerage firm?

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u/passerineby Oct 01 '24

who made you the arbiter of what's interesting?

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u/RiseCascadia Oct 02 '24

What's interesting is that you think "war stocks" are a totally normal and sane thing that should exist.

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u/whosewhat Oct 01 '24

Thereā€™s a massive port strike going on in the U.S. which I believe is the biggest impact here, from Maine down all the way to Texas

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u/mr_potatoface Oct 01 '24

With looming wars, it's fair to assume they're going to be ordered back to work in some capacity as the railroad workers were ordered back to work when they tried to strike.

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u/proletariatwoodcutta Oct 01 '24

yeah, by a politician claiming to be 'for the working man' every time an election comes up.

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u/JanSmiddy Oct 01 '24

Who da thunk it

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u/AutoRot Oct 01 '24

well duh

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u/CountryFine Oct 01 '24

Not very interesting lol

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u/SpiritOfFire013 Oct 01 '24

To each their own friend, hope you have a good day.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '24

I work for a major brokerage firm here in the US, and something interesting happened today. The markets are down, greatly in part to the tensions in the Middle East. Yet, while most everything is down, the defense sector is up. Lockheed, Northrop, Raytheon, and others recorded new 52 week highs today

thank god we have someone working in a major brokerage to tell us that war makes some stocks go down but stocks of companies that make the weapons used in the war go up.

critical analysis stuff here

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u/soapinthepeehole Oct 01 '24

They may work there, but it must be their first week on the job.

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u/thesilentbob123 Oct 02 '24

They didn't say they were a broker, they could be a janitor at the broker firm

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u/WinkMartindale Oct 01 '24

There is literally nothing interesting at all about that. I have my serious doubts you work at any brokerage. Maybe an EA or something.

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u/SpiritOfFire013 Oct 01 '24

Lol ok, nope, youā€™re right, I got my series 7 and 63 for nothing, and you definitely canā€™t find me on broker check. Not that Iā€™d dox myself, but Iā€™m there.

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u/HeftyScholar Oct 01 '24

A tale as old as time

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u/drblah11 Oct 01 '24

Any indication what could have caused the market to do this? Sooo weird.

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u/J0hnGrimm Oct 01 '24

Are you a janitor at that firm? That is neither interesting nor at all surprising.

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u/SpiritOfFire013 Oct 01 '24

Never said it was surprising, just interesting, and if you donā€™t think so, thatā€™s fine. Enjoy your day.

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u/EroticPotato69 Oct 01 '24

It isn't interesting at all. War makes stocks go up for weapons manufacturers and suppliers, go figure, Mr "brokerage firm"

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u/bleepblopbl0rp Oct 01 '24

I think Pink Floyd wrote songs about this. Along with every other band forever because we never learn our lessons

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u/GRF999999999 Oct 01 '24

Artists against war. Fucking hippie weedbangers with their flowers and crunchy jams and free hugs.

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u/Lefty_22 Oct 01 '24

If Russia or China made cheaper, better missiles then Israel and Iran would buy from those countries. It doesnā€™t matter who sells the weapons, countries who want to kill each other will find the weapons to do so.

I donā€™t think anyone can blame Lockheed or Raytheon for making middle eastern dictators order missile strikes against each other.

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u/RedditIsShittay Oct 01 '24

and you don't know about the strike?

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u/cryfmunt Oct 01 '24 edited Oct 02 '24

War is how we make money

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u/allcommentnoshitpost Oct 01 '24

Lmao first thing I posted when I saw the news was the Raytheon ticker. This world sucks.

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u/justforkicks7 Oct 01 '24

Oil is the biggest indicator and it barely moved today.

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u/SpiritOfFire013 Oct 01 '24

Biggest indicator of what?

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u/justforkicks7 Oct 01 '24

Fear level of Middle East stability. The market sentiment on the attacks today were neutral or slightly bid at best.

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u/SpiritOfFire013 Oct 01 '24

True, you arenā€™t wrong, but Iā€™m not trying to say that the Middle East tensions are the driving factor of todays instability, itā€™s one of many. It does directly correlate to the price of those mil/aero stocks though. Thatā€™s all Iā€™m trying to point out. This conflict is good for their bottom line, because they directly supply weapons and tech to Israel and our other ā€œpartnersā€ in the Middle East.

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u/justforkicks7 Oct 01 '24

I agree on your sentiment for the military companies. Itā€™s your comment about the broader market being down. But the broader market isnā€™t down because of the Middle East. If it were, it would also show in Oil. So you can infer that the market is down from other contributing factors like the port strike.

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u/SpiritOfFire013 Oct 01 '24

Definitely agree with that, was not trying to imply itā€™s the only reason itā€™s down.

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u/FuckReddit5548866 Oct 01 '24

It's as if capitalism breads war and destruction!

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u/FUMFVR Oct 01 '24

The stock market loves human misery. This is the first time you've noticed that?

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u/SpiritOfFire013 Oct 01 '24

Glad I could be of service.

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u/Barracuda00 Oct 01 '24

The US only exists in its current capacity because of the military-industrial complex. This should surprise no one.

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u/Montanabanana11 Oct 01 '24

This is known. War stimulates the economy bc of gov spending. (Itā€™s also a means to upgrade your arsenal by using the outdated stuff as well).

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u/penisweed Oct 02 '24

Why is that interesting or surprising? That is exactly what I would expect to happen.

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u/zmbjebus Oct 02 '24

So wait a couple week then puts on lockheed?

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u/Holiday_Sale5114 Oct 02 '24

This is normal behavior and happens every time there is a major conflic.t

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u/Remote_Cantaloupe Oct 02 '24

Irrelevant - everything makes the rich richer.

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u/Zevemty Oct 02 '24

War is making the rich richer, go figure.

You think the rich owns the defense sector and the poor owns the rest of the market lol? The rich are getting poorer from the stock market overall going down too. A few companies in the defense sector going up doesn't outweigh that for the rich.

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u/UncookedNoodles Oct 02 '24

Im sorry but this is such a hilariously stupid comment. It is not at all interesting that demand in a given sector would bring more money to those markets. Rich or poor has zero to do with it.

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u/CeruleanEidolon Oct 02 '24

War profiteers ought to be [removed] until their [removed] and then [removed] in a public square, every last one of them.

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u/brozene Oct 02 '24

What do you do at this firm? HR?

This is not abnormal.

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u/GoTragedy Oct 01 '24

I just checked, I'm up exactly $69 on the defense stock I bought.Ā 

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u/lonehappycamper Oct 01 '24

The rich want forever war to get richer.

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u/Fr33Flow Oct 01 '24

What are you the janitor? This isnā€™t interesting it surprising in the least bit