r/Political_Revolution • u/karmagheden • Dec 12 '20
Environment I saw mommy kissing climate change last night
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Dec 13 '20 edited Dec 15 '20
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Dec 13 '20
It's a manipulative manner for the anti-science crowd to bring everyone down to their level. They use language that assumes that science requires faith, just because not everyone that is pro-science fully understands the details of all the science (which is ridiculous because there is no universal detailed explanation for faith). And beyond that they also fault us for trusting experts, which is an even more baffling issue.
But yeah, the misleading language they use is so willfully ignorant about anything regarding science, just so they can assume that faith is no different.
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u/beefstewforyou Dec 13 '20
I wouldn’t be surprised if someone eventually says, “SKY PURPLE! Fake News put computer in eyes make sky look blue. Jesus make sky purple.”
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Dec 13 '20
Can anybody then explain the inverse correlation between co2/gases and temperature going back millions of years?
I’m not anti climate change there’s lots of reasons to go green regardless. I’m just pro facts, and I bet barely any of you have actually even glimpsed the research yourself
If this is ‘just like anti science evolution ’ you should be able to produce pretty dam easy
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u/japarkerett KY Dec 13 '20
inverse correlation between co2/gases and temperature going back millions of years?
So you just gonna say something clearly incorrect and not provide sources while demanding others provide sources to debunk yours?
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Dec 13 '20
Hahahahahaha clearly you don’t understand the distinction between 100,000s and MILLIONS. Fyi the earth is 5 billion years old. That’s a lot on millions and even more 100,000s.
My url is getting comment removed due to a ‘shortener’ I Dno.. Just google temperature vs co2 millions of years. It’s not hard.
Thanks for providing evidence on something I never refuted.
I’ll await your response.
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Dec 13 '20
*Frantically Google’s for a counter agreement to evidence he has never seen
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u/mc_k86 Dec 13 '20 edited Dec 13 '20
This isn’t evidence no one has ever seen, this is literally a conservative’s favourite piece of propaganda to make them feel smart. Anyone who has ever talked to a climate change denier has heard this whole thing before and it’s bullshit. The fact that we call it climate change and not global warming anymore directly correlates to this, the Bush Administration funded think tanks to spread lies about global warming to rebrand it into climate change and make it sound like a natural occurrence and strapped your genius theory to it. It’s manipulative and pure propaganda.
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Dec 13 '20 edited Dec 13 '20
So ICE core analysis which supports climate change by humans true?
Ice core analysis that doesn’t fake?
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Dec 13 '20
Weird your friend below who is far more read than you actually believes the science I provided and actually has a rational retort.
You are a fact denier.
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u/mc_k86 Dec 13 '20 edited Dec 13 '20
And you’re indoctrinated.
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Dec 13 '20
To what lol? I’m not sold either way you silly.
I’m indoctrinated, yet you are the one denying facts because you have no defence against them hahaha
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u/mugaboo Dec 13 '20
Yeah, here's an explanation for your statement.
https://skepticalscience.com//co2-higher-in-past-intermediate.htm
This is all relatively well understood, and there are no simple gotchas to be found.
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Dec 13 '20
Thanks you for actually providing something.
The amount of times I’ve posted this in the past is unreal, and yet no one could even come up with an argument. Not once.
I’ll had a read, it’s quite interesting to see that solar levels are the cause when in the past pro green house theory people have claimed that solar levels barely fluctuate and have no effect.
And also your mate above claiming that the data I provided was completely fabricated.
Anyway. It’s far from conclusive, and a fluctuation in solar levels off setting a 10 fold increase in co2 doesn’t ring right. Seems very convienate and it’s just amazing that the solar levels being higher and co2 bring higher and vice versa have NEVER co-existed.
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u/tambourinenap Dec 13 '20
Stop asking politicians if they understand climate change start asking if they're actually going to do something about it.
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u/VolkspanzerIsME Dec 13 '20
We've hit feedback loops.
Their belief or understanding is inconsequential at this point.
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u/mc_k86 Dec 13 '20
I’m turning 18 in a couple of months. I will never forgive these greedy scumbags for destroying my world and my future. These “Christians” burned the garden of eden to the ground.
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u/ferrants Dec 13 '20
Most politicians are more charismatic and charming than they are intelligent. Climate Change is maybe more complicated and nuanced than they would be able to understand and we should hope to find politicians who acknowledge it, which already seems to be a challenge.
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u/Afrobean Dec 13 '20
Fuck "believing" or "understanding". That's not action. They can believe and do nothing, they can understand and do nothing, what are they actually going to do? Who are they working for?
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Dec 13 '20
Can anybody then explain the inverse correlation between co2/gases and temperature going back millions of years?
I’m not anti climate change there’s lots of reasons to go green regardless. I’m just pro facts, and I bet barely any of you have actually even glimpsed the research yourself
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u/godottodog Dec 13 '20
I like this idea, although I can see how deniers may say they "understand" it through their warped lens. Perhaps the question is, do they accept the science?
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u/Holiday_in_Asgard Dec 13 '20
The question shouldn't be whether they believe it or understand it, the question should be what they plan to do about it.
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u/medioxcore Dec 13 '20
Nah. This is still a bad question. It leaves wiggle room.
"What are you going to do about climate change?"
Zero wiggle room, other than outright admitting you're a science-denying piece of trash.
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u/Hij802 NJ Dec 13 '20
I think they certainly understand it, they just choose to ignore it because of money, just like Exxon did for 40 years.
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u/ttystikk Dec 13 '20
An important distinction!