r/PoliticalRevolutionPA Adams Mar 13 '22

When Jill Stein blatantly manipulates information, so as to continue her Putin and Assad apologia to appeal to tankies, why in TF is the Green Party continuing to let her represent them AT ALL? Do they actually want to be taken seriously as a viable option (especially in this swing state) , or not?

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u/Ryzarony23 Adams Mar 13 '22 edited Mar 13 '22

How dare she claim to be an ally when she's openly supporting war crimes and is literally helping to get the international LGBTQIA+ community exterminated. Jill should be ashamed of herself for trying to stay relevant like this, with so many egregiously deadly blind spots. The same should be said of her supporters.

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u/jwill602 Mar 14 '22

This war has exposed the Russian trolls that are deeply embedded in leftist subs. Pathetic that leftists are eating up propaganda like this.

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u/Ryzarony23 Adams Mar 14 '22

It shows that those reactionaries don’t understand the left at all, nor do they have any intention of truly learning.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '22

I remembered in vain warning my ultra liberal friends against Jill Stein, that she works for Putin but no one likes to listen.

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u/jayjaywalker3 Mar 14 '22

Hey hey. Pennsylvania Green Party cochair here (based in Pittsburgh). Jill Stein doesn't have any official position in the Green Party other than former presidential candidate like Ralph Nader. I'm very happy to answer any good faith questions about the Green Party of Pennsylvania! We're a grassroots organization of people who are sick of being poisoned by fracking, not being provided with healthcare, and the endless military budgets. Nothing more, nothing less.

Also for context this tweet is from a month ago although obviously the topic is still relevant.

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u/Ryzarony23 Adams Mar 14 '22

You can’t answer questions in good faith, as long as you keep ignoring the reality of Putin, the rest of intersectionality and the Green platform. Furthermore, don’t compare Nader to that grifting shitgibbon and her Putin/Assad apologetics. 🤨

As long as people like you choose to remain willfully obtuse about this and defend her, you’re actively suffocating any chance this party has in this state, much less nationally. Get serious and check your massive blind spot, please. ✌️💚

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u/jayjaywalker3 Mar 15 '22

Hey yo I'm happy to have a real conversation but you're kinda being pretty disrespectful to me.

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u/Ryzarony23 Adams Mar 16 '22 edited Mar 17 '22

I've been super respectful towards you thus far, and I tried to have a real conversation with you months ago (but got super wary when you got into the Jill Stein apologetics, just like you're doing now).

Edited: As aforementioned in my original comment on this post, she is helping to get the international LGBTQIA+ community slaughtered in ways that also violate the Geneva Convention (that will have a ripple effect here). Stop listening to reactionary tankies and Putin/Assad-excusing grifters (like BJG and Jimmy Dore). Start connecting with potential Greens of intersections outside of your urban bubble, and realize the true gravity of losing elections for them/us/me as long as the party chooses to ignore Stein's idiotic, willful attendance at the RT convention dinner with Flynn and Putin. It doesn't matter if she said a word to them; her stupidly short-sighted ass was there in the first place, proving that she either has no business being on the international stage at all, or that she's corrupt AF. Optics kind of matter, and any continued, bEniGn association with Jill is bad for the party (as a whole).

Either wake up, or let someone who actually has an understanding of progressivism do your job. By refusing to add the absolutely necessary nuances in your "America is bad" arguments, you're literally helping to make excuses for war criminals, cryptofascists and oligarchs.

How very leftist of you... /s

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u/jayjaywalker3 Mar 17 '22

You are making a million bad faith assumptions about me!

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u/Ryzarony23 Adams Mar 18 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

I don’t think you understand what that term means, just like grifty, Jill Stein-excusing BJG (who has made a $$name$$ for herself by distorting the definition of the word and purposely omitting imperative nuance, just as badly as the shills at MSNBC).

As previously implored, please be more critical of certain blind spots if you actually want to help the Green Party to stand a chance and get swing voters to take it seriously. I’d love to change my registration, but can’t because of crucial shit like this. You can be 100% anti-war without losing your mind (to the point where you’re absolving other war criminals while also necessarily holding the US accountable). 🤨✌️