r/PS5 • u/Zhukov-74 • 1d ago
News & Announcements Sony's CES Press Conference 2025 will be held on January 6th @ 5pm PST
https://twitter.com/WilliamRAguilar/status/187215554975807092724
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u/SpideyFan4ever 1d ago
Wasn’t there rumors of a wearable soundbar in development for PS5?
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u/BrewKazma 1d ago
What does this even mean? Lol Isnt that headphones with extra steps?
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u/Maybe_In_Time 1d ago
I’ve always wanted headphones that didn’t needs to rest on your head. It does dent your head a bit, or they’re too tight, or loose/slipping…I’d rather have something that rests on my shoulders and goes up to my ears
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u/WolfyCat 1d ago
So, like this but PS5 compatible?
If it was really immersive that would be great. But it probably won't be and so, a decent soundbar would make more sense 🤷🏾♂️
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u/QuinSanguine 1d ago
Too soon for a stand alone handheld, so I'm not too excited, but I'll still check it out.
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u/Daveed13 1d ago
I really hope their handheld will take the same games than PS5 this time because I don’t want them to split their studios between dev on both consoles again…games are already longer to develop since 10 years or so.
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u/BrewKazma 1d ago
Thats kinda why they put out the portal. I find it hard to believe they are going to launch a new stand alone. It just doesnt make financial sense anymore. The only reason nintendo can is because it is also their home console.
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u/SuperbPiece 22h ago
PlayStation would need entire support staff for a new console that actually does new things (unlike the Portal, streaming games on a pre-existing machine). If a properly new handheld console was coming out, you'd know it from SIE scaling up staff to accommodate it, and no doubt devs will start opening up new divisions for handheld development. The fact that none of that is happening means the handheld isn't coming, or it's coming WAY later. I think Sony MAY try a handheld console when ML becomes good enough to upscale from super-low resolutions at far less power draw. It's the only thing that justifies experimenting with that market again.
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u/Daveed13 14h ago
I agree with you both but according to some on Reddit the rumours are more and frequents…
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u/RRR3000 23h ago
On the other hand, no handheld is gonna get the same or even close to the performance of a big PS5, otherwise the PS5 itself would be much smaller. And I wouldn't want it holding back games on the console because a (relatively) low power handheld needs to run the same games. I'd hope that's either optional (unlike Series' forced parity), or streaming but they already have PS Portal for that.
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u/Daveed13 14h ago
I think it COULD be done by giving it a fixed lower resolution but…hey, to me it have to be the same games or just no handheld…would not be the best move imo to make it a separated device with separated games. 🫤
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u/davidasc22 1d ago
I would not be surprised if the unveil a wireless PSVR2 headset at CES.
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u/Jean-Eustache 1d ago
IMO, going wireless comes with too many drawbacks (image quality, stability, latency, having to worry about battery, so weight and comfort, then price). I don't think they'll go that route.
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u/davidasc22 1d ago
It's a really important option in the VR market.
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u/AwesomePossum_1 1d ago
You'd need a complete overhaul of the headset. Probably switch to pancake lenses to reduce weight and size to allow the onboard battery, chip and wireless communications. If they couldn't sell many $500 headset, would a $700 wireless one sell all that well?
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u/davidasc22 1d ago
Not sure why you think it would need to be 700 just because Sony priced the original PSVR2 for early adopters.
The Quest 3 has a lot of that for 500 and it has on board storage.
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u/xRostro 1d ago
PSVR2 is still an overall better headset than the Quest 3. It also has eye tracking, rumble in the headset, 4k HDR, OLED panels, and adaptive triggers. That’s why it cost so much. Throwing in their proprietary wireless tech to allow it to work with the PS5, a battery, fan, and probably some sort of other chip that allows for on-device processing would be waayy more expensive. They would have to reengineer the whole thing
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u/davidasc22 1d ago
I think people don't realize that Sony has a long track record of "re-engineering" their PlayStation products.
Just look at the PSPGo and PSTV.
The PSVR2 was sold at early adopter prices for 500 dollars and probably could have been sold even at 400 or 450 at launch. Even the PSVR1 had a quick price drop after launch.
Quest 3 is sold at a loss and is considerably cheaper.
If Sony was truly discounting the PSVR2 from 500 to 350 and selling it at a major loss they'd be discontinuing PSVR2 entirely as opposed putting it on sale.
That's not a normal pricing discounting structure. Where was the price cut to 400 dollars or 450? It never happened they jumped straight to 350. It's because they're reading the market, it was within margins as to not drastically impact their business, and that model is likely going to be discontinued and replaced with something else.
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u/xRostro 1d ago
Sony has a history of selling consoles at a loss too
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u/davidasc22 1d ago
PSVR2 isn't a console, it's an accessory. Maybe they'd sell it for a loss if it generating standalone software sales revenue like the Quest 3, but it doesn't.
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u/xRostro 1d ago
Console or accessory, what matters to them is getting the price down enough right now for people to get their hands on it. One could say because it now supports VR games, those are its standalone sales
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u/ermahgerdstermpernk 1d ago
5ghz home networks have largely solved that.
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u/Jean-Eustache 1d ago
You can't stream uncompressed 4k (or close) picture with HDR10 at 120Hz over 5Ghz WiFi. With 4:2:2 chroma subsampling you're around 3GB/s. So, just like with the Quest, there would be a visual downgrade, that's all I'm saying.
Don't know how the Quest fairs in terms of latency in wireless mode though. I guess it's good enough, else people wouldn't use it.
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u/JRiggsIV 1d ago
Black portal announcement as well…
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u/davidasc22 1d ago
The black lineup of accessories will be an interesting announcement, especially so close to the 25th anniversary of the PS2.
Will these black accessories get colored face buttons? I hope they will.
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u/itsnotmetwo 1d ago
I think we will see VR/AR headset, but I'm not to certain it will be a playstation headset. Probably Sony Xperia with andriod, PC and MAC features. I would love to see PS support, but then it would need to be a plug and play solution, without developer hands on.
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u/grmayshark 1d ago
With the seemingly abject failure of PSVR2 (wired) I would be very surprised
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u/davidasc22 1d ago
Define failure.
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u/fortean 1d ago
No one is buying it.
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u/davidasc22 1d ago
How many units did it sell? Did the project break even? You realize they were selling these for 500-550 dollars a pop right and that they've discounted it to as low as 350 dollars, meaning the amount of profit margin they probably had on this was massive...
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u/davidasc22 1d ago
The only reason to cut the price this much to take such a loss on it would be to liquidate inventory.
You look at the specs of PSVR2 and the components and compare it to the Quest 3 and you'll realize that it probably wasn't sold at a loss.
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u/davidasc22 1d ago
If their primary focus was to simply shed inventory, they probably would have cut the price rather than simply done a time limited discount that ends in January.
The PC adapter continues to sell out immediately and it part of the overall strategy for PSVR2.
Again, compare PSVR2's components with Quest 3 and you'd realize that it is highly unlikely PSVR2 is sold at a loss.
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u/AwesomePossum_1 1d ago
we all love psvr2. You're on the ps5 sub for god's sake. But let it go man. It did not sell well. Doesn't mean it's abandoned or we won't see new games with a renewed marketing push later. ps5's life cycle has many years left.
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u/serg1007arch 1d ago
How about a fix to the lack of supply on the disk drives?
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u/Dr-McLuvin 1d ago
Ya that’s a huge problem.
I was gifted a PS5 pro for Christmas and I asked the person (my wife) to return it because I have no idea when disc drives will be available. The PS5 pro is worthless to me without a disc drive.
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u/serg1007arch 1d ago
I I’m going to keep it because I think it will get more expensive next year but I do want the disk drive and I refuse to pay above msrp for it. I’m not giving those bastards my money.
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u/the_hoser 1d ago
I wouldn't get too excited about this unless you're really interested in their non-PlayStation products.
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u/iwasherenotyou 1d ago
Calling it now, they won't announce the PS5 here. Instead they're gonna announce the PS7 and this time it has TWO graphics cards for more graphics obviously.
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u/Chronotaru 1d ago
Last year they used it to announce a new enterprise VR headset. I wonder what they will do this time.
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u/PassTheCurry 1d ago
Surprise ghost of yotei February release date. I’m calling it rn.
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u/Queef-Elizabeth 1d ago
That's a bold claim but I doubt it. Barely anything has been shown for the game
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u/davidasc22 1d ago
Zero chance of this since Sony stated no major IP release in the fiscal year, which doesn't end until March 31st.
When accounting for Grand Theft Auto, however, I think we could see this releasing in the summer.
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u/knowshon 1d ago
With a very likely delay of GTA to 2026, next year is a great one to release other games
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u/Teldrynnn 1d ago
very likely
According to what? Besides speculation and unfounded rumors?
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u/Davve1122 1d ago
It is based on Rockstars "recent" trackreckord with at least 1 delay after date announcement. So yes, speculation.
Personally I don't think about it, either it comes 2025 or it doesn't.
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u/Daveed13 1d ago
I would say, according to R* habits and the non-existent gameplay hand-on, ss or infos we had so far.
R* promised s lot for GTAV for launch and a lot of stuff didn’t make it, like casinos.
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u/YoureTooSlowBro 1d ago
Yeah, that's not happening. CES isn't really the place for game release dates. It's for tech.
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u/pumpkinpie7809 1d ago
You do know that Death Stranding 2 is expected to release before Yotei right
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u/arcalumis 1d ago
So they quit E3 and any summer event entirely but a expo about stereos and phone cases is important enough to have a live event on stage for?
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u/BrewKazma 1d ago
Yes. E3 was a waste of most companies money. They rushed to create demos for games just to hit E3, when things werent ready. Too many times those e3 trailers and demos were nothing like the finished product. Its much better when companies release game info on their own schedule.
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u/arcalumis 1d ago
Except that it’s fucking boring. There’s nothing to wait for anymore. The Christmas of gaming is just gone.
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u/BrewKazma 1d ago
Except thats exactly what e3 caused. Long waits for games that were going to change anyway. They still do regular announcements, just not 5 years in advance. We just had the Video Game awards which had a ton of new announcements. Playstation regularly does State of Plays, and special ones for major games. It also saves the studios money to put towards the actual game. It could cost milllions of dollars for one E3 booth. Which showed little payoff compared to just doing their own event.
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u/arcalumis 1d ago
What "announcements"? The state of play of which none has been worthy to watch because they announce nothing of interest? I don't care it's a waste of money, a lot of things are, E3 was a service to US as gamers, it created hype, and interest and online discussions and fun.
E3 might have been crowded and expensive but it was worth it for a fan of gaming, these days everything is so empty, there's nothing of interest anymore, no bombastic shows, nothing larger than life. It's just terminally online shit streamed like it's a cheap Youtube show. Part of the FUN is gone, now we're just sitting in our little bubbles playing our games.
If the publishers has saved money by not having E3 anymore it sure doesn't show in the games though. The PS4 had more interesting games in its first year than the PS5 has up to this point, it took 5 years for big stuff like GTA 6 and NDs next game to be announced.
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u/BrewKazma 1d ago
E3 was an industry trade show. It wasn’t “for the fans”. When it became for the fans, and started letting fans in, it failed very shortly after.
Everything you say E3 did, still happens, just not in one week. There are still online discussions, hype and interest. Its also better for the developers because they are no longer competing for the very short attention spans of the modern gamer, long before there is even a functioning game.
Your fundamental misunderstanding of the modern industry is apparent. Games take much longer to make, and companies have said they are not going to announce games years in advance, because it benefits no one. What good did it do for Insomniac to release a trailer for Wolverine back in 2021? Why do we need an Elder Scrolls 6 trailer in 2018? The game still hasnt launched.
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u/arcalumis 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes, not at all for fans, that's why games media made big bucks in covering those news. That's why they had the big flashy shows, that was all for Gamespots inventory planners, sure let's say that. You're arguing semantics here just to make me wrong. Tell me where the gamer who DIDN'T follow E3 was.
And no, it's not happening anymore. The fact that Sony, Ubi, MS and EA et al had to compete with mind and media share made them go bigger and bigger. And more a lot more fun.
And I don't understand why having an event is forcing anyone to announce early, that's an equation you need to explain to me. If E3 was stilla round ND could have launched Intergalactic there and still release whenever its coming.Just because games take longe to make doesn't mean that an E3 FORCES them to announce it early.
You seem to misunderstand what E3 meant and is stuck in thinking that just because E3 made devs announce early E3 will forever force developers to announce early.
And if the announcements of elder scrolls was so bad, compare that to every state of play, I haven't seen anything this boring since they washed the windows at my office. And that goes for ALL of them.
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u/BrewKazma 1d ago
Im talking about the show itself. It was for games companies, and journalists who report on the games industry. When they started letting fans in, companies pushed back, and reduced their footprints there because they were not getting the exposure they would traditionally get. Fans were clogging up the booths and making it difficult for reporters to get stories. Its not semantics. Its historical facts. The stories coming from E3 were for the gamers, not the show itself.
You seem to think E3 actually meant anything at the end. Playstation dropped out in 2019, long before e3 ended, because it did nothing for them. Games companies hated E3. Its well documented. You had to try and plan your next e3, almost a year in advance. That means you had to know what games you were going to show, how to prepare your booth, what demos to have ready. It created a terrible situation for developers, because publishers would force them to “just get something” out to show, no matter how ready or not they were. Sometimes games were shown that didnt even end up looking like the final product. While you might have liked the week long commercial, it was not good for the developers, They can get much more exposure for their games and releases by doing when they want, and not when E3 is. The less they spend sending teams of people to do a convention, the more they can focus on the games themselves.
Playstation was even having its own event as far back as 2016, which was a true event for the fan. Playstation Experience. They announced almost all of their big games there. It was much better press and value for the dollar for them.
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u/TooDrunkToTalk 1d ago
I'm sure there's a better way to share this news on here than to signal boost this fanboy pretending to be an industry analyst through twitter.
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u/Damuhfudon 1d ago
PS6 or PS Vita 2/PSP 3!?
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u/wartornhero2 1d ago
Not likely for the PS6, They just launched the PS5 Pro 2 months ago (?). Announcing a PS6 right now would stop a lot of possible sales of the PS5 Pro.
I wouldn't expect PS5/Pro to be around for another ~3 years (given PS4 pro launched in 2016 and PS5 was in 2020)
PS Vita, PSP3 could be possible but very risky knowing that the Switch 2 is expected this year.
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u/Markitron1684 1d ago
Aren’t the CES presentations normally very light on games news?