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u/YodaCM Mar 01 '21 edited Mar 01 '21
Thanks for this overview, this is really helpful! It's very easy to overlook some of these units and their potential. Just two things i noticed that you could update in your sheet. RR Psy Swimsuit Robin gets ship sockets after key LB and RR Dex Hyouzou gets sailor despair sockets. I noticed because i saw them in quite a few teams for kizuna and the Enel garp challenge, respectively. Edit: Int Baccarat also gets ship sockets.
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u/Ashk512 Promising Rookie Mar 01 '21 edited Mar 01 '21
another s tier for me kanjuro with lb lowest cd 5 turn bind despair reducer good unit for future
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u/joejackrabbit Law is the MAN!!! Mar 01 '21
Also PSA, we need about 8 Million more points to unlock the special island.
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u/CubeoHS Mar 02 '21
It’s done already. The one you’re looking at is for part 2’s blitz
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u/joejackrabbit Law is the MAN!!! Mar 02 '21
No, at the time I posted, the current total was 37Mil on one side, 65Mil on the other side. That's 102Mil total. We needed 110Mil.
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u/berber13 Promising Rookie Mar 04 '21
There is a small mistake in ur tierlist, and that is QCK RR Bonney, she get Hunger Resistance wich will make her very valuable, and not sailor despair resistance. Great work!
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u/Pithus Bring back bridal Perona! Mar 10 '21
You put Lindburgh on the list, but not the Boa sisters? Marigold and Sandersonia are both still pretty darn good today. I'd put them probably low A or B tier, but they are definitely better than some of the crummier units. Otherwise, this list is awesome thanks!
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u/TheSilentClock Promising Rookie Mar 01 '21 edited Mar 01 '21
Lol people were calling you out in the old post because you were basing this list around content that did not include Garp Challenges.
Seeing as the original was a Google Docs link (same as this one) and not a Reddit thread I’m confused why you deleted your old post instead of just editing the GDoc unless you didn’t want people knowing that you made this list without having ever done Garp Challenges.
Additionally you deleted every single one of your comments in that thread instead of just the thread itself, possibly so nobody could see it even in your profile comment history?
Nothing wrong with not playing a certain game mode (TM, KK, GC, etc.) but to make a tier list for newer players without a full set of information?
Seems kinda disingenuous
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Mar 01 '21
I updated it so it now includes GC.
I didnt know the Google doc link updates automatically. I thought deleting everything all together avoids any confusion. I deleted the thread I think. If I didn't, I'm sorry I don't know how to do that. I thought "delete post" means deleting the thread.
And this list is definitely not for newer players. No new player should key LB their units, that's something something late/end game players. I went through various GC videos to update the list and most new players can't do GC.
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Mar 01 '21
I'm seriously so confused right now. How do you delete a thread? I don't see the option anywhere just "hide thread".
Also I maybe should've mentioned it in my post but I really tried to include GC this time. It's also not that I've never done or tried them. I have completed most of them, I just don't do the mono color teams every month (because I don't have made teams for them yet).
I went through a couple of GC videos to check what units are being used commonly and whether the ones I listed in S tier are actually in there.
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u/ThePeoplesDwarf 589204326 Mar 01 '21
I stand by what I previously said. You wouldn’t have to call me out if you didn’t delete your previous post and delete all of your comments. It was in mention that you dropped units from your list because they had ship bind LB instead of the fear LB regardless of what they actually did as a unit.
As others have mentioned, you could’ve just edited your previous post instead of removing any mention of the fact that you’re basing a lot of this from content you don’t play - which as a lot of people mentioned previously, is important content when thinking about LB+ing a RR unit.
The updated list does seem a little better than the previous one so I’m glad you took peoples mentions on board.
However, one quick mention - do you own RR PSY Belo Betty by any chance? Because you missed a ton of her special in your “B tier” description.
Let me help you out here...
- Your description: increasing chances of psy orbs.
- What she actually does: Greatly boosts chances of landing on PSY & RCV orbs for 3 turns... but wait, there’s more! Boosts crews RCV by 1.5x for 3 turns, boosts chain multiplier by 0.7x for 3 turns (a really good part of her special and I’ll explain why in a sec because yep, there’s still more to her special) and changes slots randomly unless slots are PSY or RCV.
So let’s see here - if you really like, you can reset her special for the beneficial orbs for psy/rcv. So she can cover orb control (minus block). But her chain boost - she is amazing for V3 Law for example! Not to mention other PSY leads or free spirit or cerebral leads (which there are a ton of). Together with V3 Laws special, it increases the chain massively and she is boosted by him. Also the three turns parts of her special means mini boss burst AND it all carries over into a boss stage.
I personally have her LB+ed actually because she’s great for Kizuna (low CD too) and strangely enough, one of the previous Kizunas had ship bind in it so she was perfect for it.
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u/Jiv302 All Nami units Acquired 😎 Mar 01 '21
one of the previous Kizunas had ship bind in it so she was perfect for it.
Yup! Ship bind is pretty rare and largely ignorable but when you need to address it (like in a kizuna where a binded/unbinded ship can change your damage from 180m to 270m), it's very hard to address.
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u/ThePeoplesDwarf 589204326 Mar 01 '21
Agreed. The damage cut from ship bind in a mode like Kizuna is huge and definitely makes a difference. She was perfect for that Kizuna.
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Mar 01 '21
I have her and never used her. Never saw an opportunity to use her.
As I said you can diversify the list to your liking. I do believe there are tons of alternatives for her chain boost and V3 Law for example manipulates orbs on his own already. But again: if you disagree, that is okay. The list is and will always be imperfect to someone in some way. It is not objective fact.
Also, I didnt only take into account what others have said before, I looked through videos and included other not before mentioned units that may be deserving of LB+.
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u/ThePeoplesDwarf 589204326 Mar 01 '21
And that’s fine if you have a unit but never use them but my point still stands.
If you’re going to make a list to try to help out people, you should at least include the correct information on what they do. Not listing what a unit does because “you don’t use them” goes against being informative and wanting to help. It only misleads people by withholding relevant information.
Because then it’s really just a “here’s a list of units I use/like” instead of a “here’s an informative list I put together that could help you decide who to lb+”.I get that you’re trying to help. And that it’s based on your opinion, which is also fine. And good on ya for watching some GC videos to get a possible preview or insight on what RRs may be used in relevant content. But if you’re going to include units, learn what they do first and explain that before giving your reasons as to why they are or aren’t good.
Edit: also V3 Law doesn’t manipulate type orbs. You know who does shuffle those? RR Belo Betty ;)
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u/BatataBelLahme Promising Rookie Mar 01 '21
Thank you for taking your time and creating this list. I do agree with u/TheSilentClock a little bit. Explaining that these characters are good for colosseum or in general is nice because LB keys and materials are not that easy to come by. You can put a disclaimer that certain events are not your cup of tea or your strong forte and be like I am basing this for certain battles that requires characters with these abilities where for example they are not so useful in Garp Challenges. But hey, you become better depending what you do with your feedback and again thanks for taking your time and making the list and try helping fellow players.