r/OnePiece • u/Pringles__ Pirate • Sep 07 '24
Theory The Mythical Zoan of [REDACTED] (1125+) Spoiler
The Mythical Zoan of Figarland Garling
Credits to writingpanini ( https://x.com/writingpanini ) for the theory, you can find the theory here: https://x.com/writingpanini/status/1832426272154092023
All of the Gorosei possess Mythical Zoan abilities.
With Garling joining them, a question arises, will he also acquire a Mythical Zoan?
Garling could be the Fenrir, a monstrous wolf in Norse mythology
- Garling = Moon = Werewolf
- Fenrir has two sons: Hati and Sköll
- Fenrir, a monstrous wolf from Norse mythology, plays a pivotal role in Ragnarök, the "impending end times"
- Saturn has a moon (satellite) named "Fenrir"
- Garling's replacement of Saturn could symbolize him becoming "Fenrir"
- In the same chapter where Garling replaces Saturn, a new satellite replaces Vegapunk
Imu, possibly the Sea Devil, might have made a "Devil pact" with Garling so he joins the Gorosei
In exchange, Garling could gain:
- Immortality
- Knowledge of the Void Century
- The Mythical Zoan of Fenrir
Fenrir’s sons, Sköll and Hati, represent dual forces:
- Sköll chases the sun, paralleling Shanks, who pursues the Sun God Nika
- Hati chases the moon, potentially representing Shanks’ brother
Shanks, who chases the "Sun," could be analogous to Sköll
- Shanks pursued the "Sun" God Nika and revived the legacy of the Sun God (JoyBoy) by giving Luffy the fruit and the Straw Hat
- Shanks embodies the Sun's resurgence
Hati, the moon-chaser, might be Shanks' twin brother.
He could be among the Holy Knights
He could be the one who talked to the Gorosei
The Moon could be Garling
- Garling was the former Champion of God Valley
- Garling is now a Gorosei
His son (Hati) might strive to be like his father and seek his approval, hence "chasing" the Moon
Sköll and Hati embody the eternal struggle between the Celestial Dragons and the D.
Their pursuit of the sun and moon symbolizes the cosmic balance and the ongoing clash between these forces.
Garling might have left Shanks (Sköll) at God Valley, keeping only his other son (Hati)
Shanks' baby clothes feature sun and moon motifs, reinforcing the symbolism of Hati and Sköll
- Shanks was raised by the Roger Pirates and so chased the "Sun"
- His brother, raised by his father and the Celestial Dragons, chases the "Moon"
Their roles are shaped by their heritage
Garling also has an appearance as both a star from the front and a moon from the side, which could allude to his connection with Fenrir.
This duality could mirror the opposing roles of his two possible sons—Sköll, who chases the sun, and Hati, who chases the moon.
Thank you for reading! Credits again to writingpanini for putting this together. Check his Twitter account if you want more content like this https://x.com/writingpanini :)
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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 Sep 07 '24
Yep, fits with shanks long running viking motif which I've always thought had more to it than he's just a friend of Elbaf. His ship's mast is a Viking dragon like they had on their ships.
Fenrir is a perfect thing too, it fits in every way. Especially since yeah it seems like the gorosei are just mythical devil zoans with an added immortality from Imu that let's them regenerate and speak telepathically.
Oda could always throw a curve ball but this really fits perfectly with the foreshadowing that Oda is so great at. When you can figure out upcoming things by carefully pouring through the material then it's an example of great writing, things make sense within the world they exist in.
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u/Gods_Divine5541 Sep 07 '24
See i liked that cuz i also thought of something like that. I was assuming since most of them are yokai, he would gain a yokai form of sorts. Okuri-inu is the only yokai wolf/dog i can think of but didnt really fit with his motif or tie in with anything other than him escorting york around.
(Okuri-inu is a yokai that helps guide and escort travelers)
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u/krokuts Sep 07 '24
Sand worm wasn't really a yokai, there's precendence.
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u/Gods_Divine5541 Sep 07 '24
Well thats why i said most. A couple arent technically yokai. Sand worm one of them and one of them is a Chinese yokai which i forgot the offical name for.
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u/leolegendario Sep 07 '24
The Houki.
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u/Gods_Divine5541 Sep 08 '24
Yes thank you. Majority of them take inspiration from yokai but one is a random sand worm that idk the connection and one is a chinese houki. So i can see garling getting some inspiration from the moon, whether it be werewolf type form or wolf.
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u/Hanzo_2196 Sep 07 '24
I absolutely love this. It’s always tough to build a theory off another theory, in this case the Shanks has an evil twin theory, but I actually think this works. You kinda gave more credence to the evil twin theory while logically laying out the themes and motifs for the whole Figarling family. Great job
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u/czeja Void Month Survivor Sep 08 '24
Yeah this. It's one of the best theories I've seen in this sub. It all makes logical sense and is well articulated. I also think Oda's penchant for Norse mythology/religious history makes it even more likely. Nice one! Hope you're right.
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u/OkApplication8780 Sep 07 '24
Thanks for the research. I saw some people speculated the fenrir part but you put it very nice together. It was fun to read. I'm personally not a huge fan of evil Shanks theory. But by now I also believe that he has a brother who is probably now the new supreme commander of the God's Knights. This would bring Shanks closer to the main story apart of being mainly the role model/guidance to Luffy.
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u/Fibonacci777 Sep 07 '24
The Shanks evil twin theory is either gonna go down as one of the most genius or one of the stupidest One Piece theories by the time the series ends
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u/JJJAGE Sep 07 '24
Cool theory, but most importantly:
If Sköll has aquired nickname "Shanks"
Is it safe to assume that his brother, Hati, will be called "Hanks"?
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u/Ok-Willingness4801 Sep 07 '24
The national treasure of Mary Geoise was propain and propain accessories this whole time!
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Sep 07 '24 edited Sep 07 '24
u/vientator suggested that big mom would raise onigishima as Surtur & suggest big mom will represent Hel/Hela (Lokis daughter, sister in the marvel films) when she returns.
I’d like to suggest that perhaps we learn from Loki about Hel/Hela in Elbaf & she is Imu, og joyboy being the late brother of Loki (Thor - if you recall luffy and his lightning grabbing antics in wano).
Perhaps big mom’s onigishima monster or Luffy big punch will destroy mariejois? Thus killing Imu & destroying fish man island and creating the all blue in the red lines place, ending the division.
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u/vientator Sep 08 '24
Thanks for mentioning my suggestion 😁. I love imagining the chaos that will ensue in Elbaf and how fans are coming with vivid plausible theories! If we are mentioning thor, let's add the possibility of enel's return and fighting alongside Luffy. Enel could represent Thor or Odin, Luffy is Nika, Usopp is God Usopp, Nami has Zeus with her. If Imu or Big Mom posed as Hela, Garling as Fenrir, Onigashima/Kaido homie as Surtr, we get a full on battle of Gods! Or maybe Oda has much better ideas in store. I can't wait for Elbaf 🫨
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Sep 08 '24
That’s okay bud, you deserve the credit, we’ll structured theory, have a look on my profile at some recent comments I’ve made it might help you add to yours.
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u/DELAIZ Sep 07 '24
It was never said that they have any devil fruits. So far there has been no reason not to mention that they have it, nothing has appeared in their presentation.
I'm more willing to believe that they are demons
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u/Prestigious_Emu_7986 Sep 07 '24
Op said that they possess mythical zoan abilities, not fruits themselves. Which is right, they have black cloud swirlies and 3 forms(human, hybrid and full beast)
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u/levthelurker Sep 08 '24
Which is a shame because a wolf form from the Moon-Moon fruit would be peak pun.
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u/marsdvema Sep 07 '24
Interesting theory, the garling family will definitely e important moving forward
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u/VentText Sep 07 '24
I like it, I think there's a potential for the Cerberus. I haven't cooked like you have but I think either could totally be it. good theory.
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u/Hibrice Sep 07 '24
This goes well into the imu theory that's posted
I've always seen the red line as Jörmungandr The serpent wrapped around the world during Ragnarok
Imu as a dragon/serpent
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u/Hibrice Sep 07 '24
Also with the Giants being so into Norse mythology. It all kinda just works at the moment
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u/KyokenShaman Sep 07 '24
I won't be disappointed if this doesn't turn out to be true.
But what a great theory!
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u/arkam_uzumaki Pirate Sep 07 '24
It was a good mate 👍🏻 Still I'm excited about who will be Shanks parents.
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u/bolin12 Sep 08 '24
the way that Oda draws from so many sources makes this incredibly sensible, i love it.
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u/Mogakusha Sep 07 '24
My only issue is that it builds upon unconfirmed theory like evil twin shanks
Is that bad? Not really, if the twin theory turns out true
But to create a theory based on another theory is questionable
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u/Acceptable-Soup5156 Scholars of Ohara Sep 08 '24
Does it have to be a twin, though?
Like Shanks was stolen as a baby, and unless there was something identifying him in the treasure chest, the Roger pirates probably named him... there would have been many years where he was just probably listed as missing before he was able to make a name for himself and get noticed.
garland is a renowned figure, so he likely had another child to name as heir since shanks whereabouts were unknown during that time... so maybe not a twin, but it's not farfetched to think he has a sibling out there
Shanks was raised by Roger with his ideals and the sibling would have been raised in marijois with their ideals so a comparison of sun and moon also fits 🤷♀️
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u/Mogakusha Sep 08 '24
You use too many "ifs" in your thoughts. Theory is constructed by what you see, not by letting your imagination run wild. Doing that just creates crazy expecations and a whole lore that doesnt even exist
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u/Acceptable-Soup5156 Scholars of Ohara Sep 08 '24
I'm just looking for some plausability to this theory, the idea that he has a secret twin brother and one was abducted and the other wasn't seems like a whole lot of stretch, but the idea of a rich and powerful family replacing a missing heir (per sabos story) seems more likely to make the theory work
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u/Mogakusha Sep 08 '24
I think its plainly Figarland has 1 kid, maybe a mistress' kid or something, and he didnt want kids so he just threw Shanks away. Or maybe Shanks is just the only one to survive, like Nina from Gurren Lagann
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u/eldragon_1 Sep 07 '24
Depending on how their powers and their connection to Imu work, there’s a chance that he’s simply the Bull Spider Yokai now.
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u/MicooDA Sep 07 '24
If Shanks has a twin brother that talked to the Gorosei, we all owe him a big apology for the ‘Rat Hair Shanks’ memes
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u/mo-rek Sep 07 '24
Really like this idea! Though I'd expand more on the relationship between a fresh vegapunk and Elder this chapter. Definitely believing the figardlands will gain importance moving forward and would rather believe Shanks has a twin than see his mentor role with luffy be tainted by some nefarious relationship to the WG. Whitebeard likely fought against figarland people that gave him the scar he mentions in chapter 434 too! Excited to learn more about this celestial family.
When it comes to the significance of vegapunk gaining a new form and imu replacing an elder, it makes me wonder if Imu is the beneficiary of some type of command authority over devil fruit abilities/immortality from the distant past. It would be somewhat similar to how VP gave Bonney authority over all the Seraphim and Pacifista, just with devil fruits themselves.
This chapter seems to hint at Imu's ability to grant power and take it away. if devil fruits were ancient kingdom era technology, I could totally see someone granting Imu power to command other devil fruit abilities just like Bonney. Imu seems to chose strong celestial dragons to serve as satellites, provided Garling receives similar devil abilities after it was stripped from Saturn.
Edit: if Imu has some command chain authority over devil fruits, that could explain why BB is considered a threat comparable to the Nika fruit. A devil fruit capable of canceling others could wreak havoc on imu and the elders.
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u/Footbuster Sep 07 '24
Love the theory! I remember seeing something similar from Syv a couple months ago, I guess the recent chapter confirms he must already have of be given a mythical zoan soon.
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u/Polaars Sep 08 '24
Great theory ! Before 1125 and reading your theory, I thought Shanks was inspired by Tyr, the Norse God, but now I adhere to your theory because it makes more sense.
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u/ES_Legman Sep 08 '24
And Luffy will meet the wrong brother first and try to return the hat to him.
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u/Taladris Sep 08 '24
Nice efforts but I would assume that Oda will keep a Yokai theme for the Gorosei. If Figarland has a wolf-related DF, it could be Okuri-Inu: Okuri-inu - Wikipedia (I googled for 30 seconds, I am not an expert about Yokai).
Speculation: The Holy Knight all have Zoan DF Model: Yokai, so Figarland will not get one. Oda likes to have characters with silly DF, so I wouldn't be surprised if we meet a character with the umbrella yokai.
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u/Oreo-and-Fly Explorer Sep 08 '24 edited Sep 08 '24
Imagine Garling holding the sword like Sif or Zacian.
That would be sick.
Or even a Cerberus.
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u/TLVftwLOL Explorer Sep 08 '24
Still unconfirmed if they are devils or if they’re are devil fruit powers. But cook on, chef
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u/east_life_ Sep 08 '24 edited Oct 06 '24
If true, this would be extra sad for me, because in my headcanon Yamato is Fenrir.
大口真神 = large-mouthed true deity. A wolf with icy breath that swallows Odin.
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u/Akasha1885 The Revolutionary Army Sep 08 '24
I'm just impressed by Oda again, he teased in the one last panel who the major players would be for the One Piece.
And then Garling becomes a major player from being a nobody in the shadows by assuming the position of Gorosei.
I'd be fine if Garling just followed the Spider theme with his powers, Moon Spiders are a thing and we already got a huge worm monster.
Fenrir is very important for Loki, who exists and is linked to Elbaf.
So unless Figarland goes to Elbaf straight away, I don't see Oda using Fenrir outside of Elbaf.
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u/Secure_Pear_4530 Sep 08 '24
Goddamn and Fenrir became an Elder just as Elbaf arc starts. Elbaf's probably gonna get destroyed, since he's a sign of Ragnarok. Maybe he's gonna send the ancient weapon the destroyed Lulusia to it. I'm subscribing to this theory, this shit's great.
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u/qdattt Sep 08 '24
love how One Piece turns all of us into history researchers, astrologist and many more
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u/PM_ME_SOME_CAKES Sep 07 '24
That's cool and all, but i think you should look for something that fits the pattern of the current existing elders. All of them are Yokai, that is, all of them are explicitly Japanese creatures. So, then, it'd be a weird break of consistency for Garland to be a Norse creature. This is especially glaring when, as a whole, most "Mythical" creatures have been Eastern-specific.
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u/Pringles__ Pirate Sep 07 '24
Hoki (Fengxi) and Sand Worm are not Japanese creatures.
Fengxi is from Chinese mythology.
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u/PM_ME_SOME_CAKES Sep 07 '24
That's a little complicated. The two often borrow mythologies from one another. Hence why it is called Hoki in Japan, but Fengxi in China. Same can be said for creatures like the Phoenix and Seryu.
While I did say that Yokai is a specifically Japanese concept, I also said that most "mythical" beings in general are Eastern.
Sand Worm is an honestly weird case. I can't place it. My personal theory is that it's just a normal worm Zoan enhanced to be what it is.
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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 Sep 07 '24
Sandworm is just a dune reference. Dune is really what popularized it. Even the earliest cryptid the Mongolian sand worm, the stories start in the 1900s so recently. It's just a modern monster basically. Makes Ju Peter being the betrayer theory more interesting.
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u/kamilo87 Sep 07 '24
This could be a replacement ability! maybe the original sinned and replaced by him.
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u/PM_ME_SOME_CAKES Sep 07 '24
I'm confused, what do you mean?
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u/kamilo87 Sep 07 '24
Sorry, Sand Worm replaced a Yokai Gorosei, since he had already the Sandworm fruit he was ascended but didn’t changed his Zoan.
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u/PM_ME_SOME_CAKES Sep 07 '24
Ahh yeah that's what i think happened as well. Although it's equally possible that all of them had fruits, but since there's no proper worm yokai, the sandworm had to do.
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u/kamilo87 Sep 07 '24
We’ll see if Figarland receives Saturn’s or goes with a new one
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u/PM_ME_SOME_CAKES Sep 07 '24
That is what I'm genuinely curious about. My bet is he will receive a new power, though.
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u/kamilo87 Sep 07 '24
Oda is very creative and is always pulling new ideas. I wouldn’t put my hands on fire for it. No one would ever predict Saturn’s demise (no one that I’m aware yet). But this Figarland situation strengthened his position as top level CD and his relationship with Akagami.
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u/ShovelBeatleRillaz Sep 07 '24 edited Sep 07 '24
To be fair, I think it would make sense having Garland be a creature from an alternate part of the world since, well, he’s certainly not like the other Gorosei in that he’s new
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u/AkagamiBarto Sep 07 '24
Ju Peter and Garling could be different being more recent, the others more linked to tradition, and therefore being Yokais
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u/PM_ME_SOME_CAKES Sep 07 '24
That may be true. But the problem also lies in consistency in the world as a whole. He may be new to the Elders, but he's no outsider to the One Piece World. It seems possible, albeit simply inconsistent. (Personally, i think that a funny change of pace would be his having a paramecia or logia, rather than a Zoan) At the end of the day, we're talking about Oda, Oda does whatever he wants.
Now, that being said, I stand by my earlier theories that Imu is enhancing or modifying Devil Fruit powers through whatever power he has. So, I don't necessarily even believe he has a "Mythical" in the truest sense.
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u/Don_Matrix Sep 07 '24
How is a sandworm a yokai?
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u/PM_ME_SOME_CAKES Sep 07 '24
Well, it's not. Not that I know of, anyway. Popular theory is that it is inspired by Dune, but we genuinely don't know what or where that specific creature comes from.
Personally, my theory is that it is a Normal worm Zoan that was enhanced in some way, just like the others.
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u/SirYabas Sep 07 '24
It's based of the Mongolian Death Worm.
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u/PM_ME_SOME_CAKES Sep 07 '24
I don't think so. Two big issues are that Death Worms are only 2 feet long, which is contradictory to the Massive appearance of the Sand Worm, and it is Venomous.
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u/Raixas923 Sep 07 '24
Could be the mongolian death worm. It's the only one I can think of that could line up.
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u/Sk0p3r Sep 07 '24
Well it is not certain that their assumed Devil Fruits are Mythical Zoans as you can kinda guess that they are granted their powers by Imu as seen with Laturn being drained of his powers and longevity by them
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u/Sirbrownface Sep 07 '24
Laturn. Lmao. Too soon. Nah?
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u/Sk0p3r Sep 07 '24
This whole arc he caught nothing but Ls honestly, makes me wonder how he was chosen for the position, at least in this chapter it was somewhat shown that he had some interest in science
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u/FoodyHH Sep 07 '24
Are the Gorosei's planets linked to their devil fruits?
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u/Ok_Chap Sep 07 '24
Not really with their devil fruits, but more or less with their departments of the government, like Mercury representing wealth in Japanese, which is why he is the Wargod of Finances. (Also a giant hog, so he is a big piggy bank?)
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u/ImmaculateWeiss Sep 07 '24
Love this, definitely agree that the shadowed figure is the Shanks lookalike from the Gorosei meeting
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u/EmanueleMasu Sep 07 '24
Imo the tranformations of the gorosei are part of Imu's powers.
About your theory, you forget one thing: the hairstyle of the gorosei match with their powers. Jupiter's beard resembles the mouth of the worm. Mars' beard resembles the long body and the wings of the bird. Warcury's mustaches resemble the fangs of the boar. Saturn's rastas resembles the legs of the spider. Venus' absence of hair and beard is a pun to the skinless horse.
So Garling should have a tranformation that matches his hairstyle.
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u/AscendedMagi Sep 07 '24
a moon then?
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u/EmanueleMasu Sep 08 '24
It should resemble a part of the body of the yokai. So i could transform into a Katsura otoko, or a kamaitachi due to the schyte shape. Some people see a beak and think he will transform into a gryphon.
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u/Kapparisun Sep 07 '24
Are t they all based on yokai, so I don't him being different
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u/leolegendario Sep 07 '24
No, Warcury is a Houki and that's from China, Ju Peter's Sandworm is from Dune.
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u/Kapparisun Sep 07 '24
warcury is a fengxi which is a yokai and ju peter is a sandworm which i cant find anything about it in yokai stuff ill look into it
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u/Young_KingKush Sep 07 '24
I'm still not convinced the Gorosei's powers come from DF's and not just straight up Imu himself so it may not even be a Mythical Zoan at all
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u/Mas_Basura Sep 07 '24
I'm sorry, but Oda SPECIFICALLY DID NOT call them fruit users because they ARE NOT fruit users, why is this so hard for everyone to understand?! Why would he keep that as a SECOND reveal? It makes no sense. They are demons (maybe extentions of Imu) but they are NOT zoans.
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u/Mantiax Sep 20 '24
I think Oda has taken inspiration in these mythological figures but won't be as direct as here with the references.
Figarland will have one of the following power: Inu-inu no mi: model werewolf, Moon-moon fruit (with powers themed in werewolfs) or maybe Mythical inu-inu no mi: model Fenrir.
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u/retronax Sep 07 '24
"All of the Gorosei possess Mythical Zoan abilities." Is already quite the statement to make after the last chapter added even more implications that they don't. They jump in the water, weren't introduced as "itsumade mythical zoan" or something but just their yokai name, they can TP to another member, Imu takes damage when they get hit with joyboy's haki, Imu can take whatever it is they have away and whatever it is they have allows them to live forever as saturn was already alive and old 250 years ago. At this point you could argue that Imu has a devil fruit, but these five, now six guys almost certainly don't
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u/Temptest_XD4C Sep 08 '24
I'd argue that imu is the only reason why the gorosei have powers, especially considering we saw imu take Saturn's away in the recent chapter hence yes imu is the representation of the devil, though I'd really be more excited for imu to be similar to Apophis (the god of chaos and darkness which will go to blackbeard at this point)
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u/jeremiasalmeida Sep 07 '24
Is it state that their powers are devil's fruits? Because they have just a name given
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u/stratjr123 Sep 07 '24
your entire theory is based on something that isn't confirmed.....it was never confirmed that they have devil fruits
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u/Ancient-Buy-5816 Sep 07 '24
Seeing as saturn dissolved and garling took his position he might also just get the same form that saturn had no?
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u/No-Sheepherder3383 Sep 07 '24
They were never confirmed to be mythical zoans, they are very likely not even devil fruits at all.
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u/Lonely_Waffle12 Sep 07 '24
Honestly imus devil fruit is probably some sort of soul exchange for power that isn’t related to devil fruit at all. Because if that was true why would imu want the sea to rise. She probably has some other none devil fruit/ non haki power. The way she took away one of the elders powers reminds me she is loaning them power.
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u/SpiritualScumlord Chopper the Cotton Candy Lover Sep 07 '24
Syv posted a video saying this same thing yesterday.
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u/branflakes14 Sep 07 '24
A character: Appears for two seconds and gives us zero information about their abilities
Reddit: Here's my 5 page theory on why they must have a devil fruit that refers to a specific creature from a specific real world mythology
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u/soge_d_king0 Sep 07 '24
You know what? I have stopped reading theories and making theories for one piece now. Any theory we make has less than 1% chance of happening. I am sick of wasting my brain cells behind this.
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u/UlteriorMotive66 Sep 07 '24
Would you look at the time! It's theory time!