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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1110 Spoiler

Chapter 1110: "Planetfall"

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Ch. 1111 Official Release (Mangaplus): 23/03/2024

Ch. 1110 Scan Release: ~17/032024

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u/Paraxom Mar 15 '24

Anyone else remember the demon worshippers brook crashed into pre-timeskip after kuma yeeted him? I think they were trying to summon nusjuro. Only thing they probably knew was that he was tall, skeletal and wielded a sword which also describes brook

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u/AgeofSmiles Mar 15 '24

If that's true then these guys were lucky as fuck the summoning didn't work lol.

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u/goodyfresh Mar 15 '24 edited Mar 15 '24

Yeah, imagine if instead of summoning a guy who demands panties as tribute, they'd summoned the CORRECT guy only for him to demand human slaves as tribute.

Or idk, based on what we're seeing now, perhaps he'd even demand human sacrifices in blood rituals, because the Elders are SO truly demonic...

I mean, he clearly has underworld undead soul-powers like Brook. But unlike him he's a demon, so it wouldn't even surprise me if the dude literally consumes human souls.

Imagine if those people had successfully summoned Nusjuro and he'd been like "Yes I can save you lowly insects from your attackers, but only if you sacrifice your firstborn children [or virgins, or both, or whatever] to me forevermore so that I may grow my power! For the sacrifice, draw my pentagram, place them within it, and carve out their hearts while they still live!" Wouldn't even surprise me because of how much these guys feel like Seinen villains instead of Shounen villains.

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u/AgeofSmiles Mar 16 '24

They actually look like they could be Seinen monsters if they were drawn in a different style (nothing against Oda, it's just that his art is too "nice" for that).

I'd give my left nut to see the awesome two-page spread of the Five Elders redrawn by Miura, the master of scary, massive, demonic, evil fucking monsters.

Rest in Peace, your art was simply majestic. May the Godhand one day resurrect you at the cost of a thousand innocent souls...

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u/goodyfresh Mar 16 '24

I thought the exact same thing when I saw that page! Literally "These guys' designs would fit right in as powerful demonic entities or Apostles in Berserk if in Miura's art style instead of Oda's."

They are so terrifyingly menacing.

And yes, of course, RIP Miura, the legend. I still mourn for him :(

That being said, Oda's art style has its own charm. It may not be hyper-detailed like Miura's, but dude I'm not gonna lie, this chapter's double-page spread is one of my favorites in any manga or comic I've EVER read. It looks glorious while also conveying, purely through visuals, the whole slew of emotions that Oda aims to. Wordlessly.

Another notable thing is that the Elders' villainy is more reminiscent of Seinen monster villains than what you tend to see in shonen. Oda does not shy away from letting us know (although he will not show it ofc) that the CD's rampantly commit large-scale villainy of a type that is normally considered taboo for shonen manga (you know what I mean).

And that the Elders, above the rest, actively condone such activities while then taking the discarded victims and using them as experimental subjects until they die.

That's WILD dude, they do not look nor act like shonen villains. Some people may claim that Devils from CSM are this dark, but CSM's villains also feel like they don't belong in shonen and just about everyone says so.

Someone could try to argue that Dio is this dark, but nahhhh... he may have gotten a woman to eat her own baby, but his sadism is so literally-always-completely-pointless that it's just kinda laughable and is far less nuanced than Saturn's sadism. His idea of how to rule the world is very basic and simplistic, too.

I'm hard-pressed to think of times when I've seen villains QUITE like these guys outside of seinen. Can you think of any?

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u/AgeofSmiles Mar 16 '24 edited Mar 16 '24

Seriously, Saturn's behavior and ideology this whole arc (including flashbacks) reminds me of nazi "scientists" and "doctors" and except for the fact he's an actual demonic entity he's not so different from some people who existed in real life. Which just reminds us that reality is sometimes stranger and worse than fiction.

Saturn simply does not see himself or his actions as bad because just like all of us do not care when we accidentally step on insects he views most of humanity in the OP world as insects.

Since Kuma was born as a Bucaneer he is inferior by birth, useful as a slave or for killing as a sport but he's not an actual human being that has any dignity, rights or even a good reason to be alive, it's better to use him and then stamp him out, he's naturally part of a race that needs to be exterminated.

The same goes for Ginny. Since Celestial Dragons are gods meant to rule over humanity they can take whatever they want. If they lust after a woman, it's their right to kidnap and rape her over and over again until they are bored with her so she can simply be discarded.

Saturn infecting her with saphire scales wasn't done out of malice (though the fact she was Kuma's lover and a former revolutionary might have played a part), Saturn simply saw her and thought "What an interesting test subject, I should use her for my studies". It's the curious mind of a scientist who has no conscience at all and doesn't see her as a human being who already suffered enormously.

In that regard the Kuma flashback also shows Oda's tremendous empathy. He refused to show Ginny's infected body even to the reader, as if to protect her dignity at least in her dying moments.

From a political standpoint One Piece is actually quite simple. The real world is very complex and not run by five dudes and some shadowy leader but Oda shows hints of the complexity here and there.

Doffy's impact on the world by selling weapons or the people misunderstanding Sabo are good examples, just like Hannyabal actually making a good point why Luffy causing a mass breakout in Impel Down is a horrible thing after all.

But more than that Oda understands people, motives, motivations and dreams. And he also understands that at all times, in many parts of the world people are crying out for a figure like Nika.

Someone who is boundlessly optimistic, freeing them from a life that is a living hell in which they are never experiencing freedom or happiness. Someone who saves them with a smile on his face, who makes children laugh and tyrants shiver.

I agree with you, Oda's art is amazing and unique and the idea that Luffy's ultimate form is based on oldschool cartoons is quite simply the greatest idea he ever came up with.

Gear 5 is every opressed child's dream come true: "I wish I could just turn gigantic, grab that evil person who killed my parents and enslaved me and throw him away like a ball or frisbee!"

Damn, I love One Piece. It's like Oda both reminds and allows me to stay a child no matter how old I get, no matter how much I understand how complicated and evil the world is and just offers us this dream world where a figure like Nika is real and turns guys like Saturn (who are actually real) to a Pizza.

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u/goodyfresh Mar 16 '24

You're not wrong, Saturn is somewhat similar to figures like Josef Mengele. That being said, Josef Mengele greatly enjoyed the sadism of the human experiments he performed, not just viewing them coldly and scientifically. Saturn does seem to be the same. He's expressed quite a bit by now that he outright enjoys tormenting the "insects" who are beneath him.

From Saturn's own words, it's clear that he enjoyed being able to torment "Kuma's woman" with his experiments. It was all but outright stated that he was happy to realize who she was. Yes, he thinks of people as insects. But I wouldn't say he's cold and analytical about it; he's like someone who will slowly pull the wings off a butterfly to watch it struggle and die.

While he doesn't make his joy very clear and thus can seem emotionally detached, he clearly does take great joy in the suffering of his and the other CD's victims. If he didn't enjoy this so much, he would finish off threats like Bonney quickly rather than repeatedly ruining his own plans by attempting more drawn-out, creative, sadistic ways to kill them.

The stuff about Ginny reminds me of something: The absolutely horrific, ceaseless torture, likely without even letting her die yet, that the CD's would have subjected her to if they knew she was the one literally solely responsible for the God Valley Incident. It's sad that seemingly only Kuma, Vegapunk (who studied his memories), Ivankov, and Bonney (who saw Kuma's memories) know that she was a more important figure in the modern history of that world than even the likes of Big Mom and Kaido. But it's best that the world doesn't know, because the WG never would have Bonney live ("blood of a criminal, Absolute Justice, blah blah"), if she'd even been born, if such a thing was known. They'd literally have just killed her as a baby and made Ginny watch or something, I'm SURE of that.

In their eyes, Ginny's main "crimes" were being a slave who thinks she can be free, and her relationship with a Buccaneer. But it turns out that she was guilty of a "crime" against the WG far, far, far, far, far bigger than those, or Kuma's "crimes" at the time, etc.

Yeah, the contrast between the light and the darkness in the world of OP is quite extreme. When I first got into this series, I certainly did NOT expect it to ultimately be about the LITERAL forces of Light versus the LITERAL forces of Darkness, like legitimately a sun god versus demons, by the end.

And if you'd told me ten years ago that this is what the series would become, I'd have said that's stupid, it'd be jumping the shark, it'd be bad writing, it'd never work, "Luffy being a chosen messiah would ruin it," etc.

But Oda is an author who can pull off the impossible and make something this wild feel completely natural to us by the time he's ready to reveal it.

Yes, Oda never showing Ginny's face, or very much of her at all, after her kidnapping, was clearly a conscious choice so that we would only ever envision her as she once was when living a happy life. I mean, you COULD argue that it was Oda avoiding the taboo of showing the physical or emotional consequences of sexual assault in a shonen manga... but honestly I don't think he cares about that nearly as much as he just wanted to preserve her dignity as you said.

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u/reidraws Mar 15 '24

Ok thats a good connection. It would be nice to read that chapter back and the messages there.

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u/NeoNBlackout Mar 15 '24

Can you link the chapter? Or tell me the number?