r/OnePiece • u/Kirosh2 Lookout • Dec 21 '23

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1102 Spoiler

Chapter 1102: "The Life of Kuma"

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Ch. 1102 Official Release (Mangaplus): 24/12/2023

Ch. 1103 Scan Release: ~30/12/2023

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u/Mawnix Dec 21 '23 edited Dec 23 '23

Yeah there's a difference between someone in a position like Akainu, who has a radical, hard stance of justice, when most pirates in the world are scum and bastards.

vs. someone like Saturn whose entire motivation is oppression because, for some reason, the Ancient Kingdom, Nika, and the One Piece were "evil" enough from their point of view to completely suppress anything/everything concerning it, regardless of the choice.

The big difference though is the fucking callousness. Akainu isn't going around telling slaves they're worthless. Akainu is a means to an end that even he's aware of, regardless of how he conducts himself to enact his version of justice.

Saturn is just a straight up stone cold fascist bastard that needs to fucking die.

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u/Savagevandal85 Dec 21 '23

Next chapter is the climax . I hope we get Luffy gear 5 fistinv him into oblivion

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u/Throwawayalt129 Dec 21 '23

I genuinely don't think Akainu is a bad person per say, just a man with a hard-line sense of justice that views the horrible actions he takes to uphold that justice as necessary. And I ascribe to the theory that Akainu is eventually going to turn on the CD and the Gorosei specifically because of his sense of justice. He's eventually going to realize how they're just using him to keep their agenda in place, it'll clash with his sense of justice, and he'll attempt to betray or arrest them in the final acts of the story. Akainu has too strong of a sense of justice to be a true lapdog, and if and when he discovers the full extent of Imu and the Gorosei's actions he'll realize they need to be stopped.

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u/PalazzoFC Dec 22 '23

Akainu did murder a literal boatload of innocent people. He is, definitionally, completely evil to the core; there's no real redeemable trait about him. He is less vile than the celestial dragons, but basically everyone living is anyway.

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u/Throwawayalt129 Dec 23 '23

What chapter is this in? I'm not doubting it, I'd just like more context around it. A lot of innocent people have been killed by the WG for "associating with pirates" or other such "crimes." In that context I could see Akainu feeling justified in killing innocents.

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u/jkghiep3 Dec 23 '23

ohara buster call

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u/Throwawayalt129 Dec 23 '23

Wait a minute? Ohara? Ohara absolutely wouldn't have been innocent in the eyes of the WG, they were researching the Void Century. Akainu would've had no problem mercing the people of Ohara.

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u/jkghiep3 Dec 23 '23

ok and if you want to believe that akainu is naive to the atrocities of the gorosei and the WG at large then thats on you. but considering there's a whole subdivision of the navy dedicated to doing the right thing (sword) it's very likely he knows how terrible they are

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u/Throwawayalt129 Dec 23 '23

I never said Akainu didn't have knowledge of what the WG was committing, just that he views what they do as justifiable or necessary to keeping the peace. Eventually he is going to reach a point where he can't justify the WG's action anymore and turn on them.

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u/pseudo_nemesis Dec 24 '23

Akainu is given the epithet of the dog, because he is just that. He is not necessarily blind to the atrocities of his masters, but I do believe he holds a certain amount of naïveté in regards to his views on Justice. He has been shown to begin to have disagreeing viewpoints with the WG as he climbs naval ranks and has a more full scope of what they are doing.

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u/PalazzoFC Dec 25 '23

397, Akainu goes beyond just letting the buster call happen and takes it upon himself to kill the innocent civilians that the Navy was giving safe passage.

Akainu doesn't view them as innocent (even though the government was allowing the civilians to escape), but obviously by any reasonable standard they are noncombatants and should not be targeted. Akainu considers what he did necessary but the point of this is that there could never be any reasonable person who could view such an act as necessary under any conditions.

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u/Traditional_Art3928 Dec 21 '23

Now you said about POVs,

Is it the devil fruits were called "devil fruits" because it was from those celestials' pov ?

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u/tokyogodfather2 Jan 01 '24

Genius. Never thought of that and I’ve been reading this for more than 20 years.

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u/stiveooo Dec 21 '23

Akainu prob didnt went 100% vs kuma cause he likely has a daughter too (koby's girl)

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u/Yorha-with-a-pearl Dec 21 '23

He blew off half of his face and a leg lol. Kuma's devil fruit is just pure hax. He didn't hold back at all.

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u/tokyogodfather2 Jan 01 '24

are you talking about Akainu? And vs Aokiji??

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u/tokyogodfather2 Jan 01 '24

I don’t understand what you’re saying?