r/JewsOfConscience • u/Educational_Board888 Non-Jewish Ally • 12d ago

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Do you think they check Reddit posts?

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u/Katyamuffin Israeli 12d ago

If they did, I'd be in prison a long time ago with the amount of shit I spout about my own government lmao. I think it's ok.

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u/BodhisattvaBob Non-denominational 12d ago

Im sure they do.

Are you identifiable on the interwebs?

Regardless, I'd wipe the phone or carry a new one before going. Low risk they'd check, but definitely not no risk.

They're a superparanoid, supersensitive superpower.

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u/Oddpa Anti-Zionist 12d ago

I’d argue with the superpower part, because all they are is that they are super armed. If you are armed to your teeth but have soldiers who wear diapers and don’t want to fight, than you are super screwed, and you turn into a super genocider.

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u/BodhisattvaBob Non-denominational 11d ago

Regional superpower. Def not global.

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u/Yerushalmii Israeli for One State 12d ago

Before you arrive at the airport you can log out and delete apps from your phone.

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u/crossingguardcrush Jewish 12d ago

Look, Reddit is largely anonymous. So I think you would be ok? But this is a perilous time to travel there as a dissident. I would go in knowing the risks.

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u/mxpapaya Ashkenazi 12d ago

Tbh I traveled through Tel Aviv this summer (doing protective presence stuff in the West Bank) and kind of realized their whole security process is mostly about intimidation/for show. Probably not the case if you are Arab, but as a person with a Jewish name on my passport I wasn’t asked a single question on my way in. The way out was a little more intense, they asked me what I was there for (said I was visiting a friend), that friend’s name and address, and some random questions about whether I was learning languages or celebrated Jewish holidays. It was nerve wracking but they let me through. They won’t search your phone but they might look you up on the internet but it isn’t that sophisticated—as long as your public social medias don’t have obvious pro Palestine content and you aren’t on Canary Mission or anything like that you should be fine. Even if you are there’s a chance they won’t even look or will miss it.

As far as phone stuff goes, it’s much more of an issue if they stop you for interrogation or you get arrested/detained while you are there. I was detained by settler-soldiers and they took a picture of my passport which freaked me out but it was just an intimidation tactic (their databases aren’t that sophisticated) and thankfully kept my phone). I turned the setting that displays names/content from incoming messages for texts, Signal, WhatsApp, etc., turned off Face ID/fingerprint entry and set a 12 digit passcode—if you do this there is no need to wipe your phone. They legally can’t make you open your phone, although they will try, and it would take them over 6 months to use passcode algorithms to try to break in and by that time you will probably have your phone back.

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u/Accomplished_Egg_580 12d ago edited 12d ago

I see that u suspected force in the case of face or fingerprint id and turned off screen notifications Good one. Didn't thought of that. U might also wanna add sim lock and put an auto turnoff everyday at 2:00pm. Cause the sim lock is 4 digits and u only get 4 chances. What if they ask me for some document that I only have digitally. They shouldn't cause passport and visa is sufficient.

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u/mxpapaya Ashkenazi 12d ago

Yeah that actually happened to me I showed them my passport digitally on my phone because I was panicked and gave them my unlocked phone lmao and then grabbed it back from the soldier’s hand. I’m not a particularly threatening looking person but if I wasn’t that could have been bad.

The thing is technically no they are not supposed to be allowed to force you to unlock anything but in practice they will try to intimidate you into doing so, lie to you about your rights, and do whatever they want because they feel they are above the law. The biggest thing is just staying calm, knowing the laws, and not giving into intimidation

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u/22octav Non-Jewish Ally 12d ago

"as long as your public social medias don’t have obvious pro Palestine content"

Else, what would have happened?

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u/milk2sugarsplease 11d ago

As part of the Israeli policy showing public support for Palestine or boycotting of Israel can get you banned for up to 10 years.

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