r/JewsOfConscience • u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ Jewish Anti-Zionist • Nov 17 '24
Opinion Former Israeli PM Ehud Olmert says the drama in Amsterdam wasn't due to antisemitism & criticizes the 'pogrom' analogy: "The attempt to compare the disturbances in Amsterdam to a Holocaust event is first & foremost evidence of the loss of mental equilibrium[...]."
https://archive.ph/3UwoY47
u/Roy4Pris Zionism is a waste of Judaism Nov 17 '24
The Overton window has shifted so dramatically over the last 20 years that Zionist war criminals like Olmert now seem normal and reasonable. It’s fucking bizarre.
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u/oncothrow Hasidim Nov 17 '24
They didn't get more reasonable. It's just the Israeli government has genuinely gotten more and more terrifyingly insane.
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u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ Jewish Anti-Zionist Nov 17 '24
I thought this was relatively fair as an analysis.
Some of what he says overlaps with what European xenophobes think about 2nd generation immigrants.
That being said, he doesn't couch it in the same rhetoric and he's talking about blowback. In that sense, I think it's fairly reasonable.
People in America like to complain about immigration, but neoliberal economic policies and America's never-ending wars cause migration events.
There's no attempt to understand that in the US and I think the same inability to understand is there when talking about political attitudes. Usually people call that 'culture' but, to me it's just a political view that gets passed down because nothing has actually changed.
I remember on Breaking Points, Krystal & Saagar were discussing how African-Americans were expressing more socially conservative views as some segments of the population moved into the middle-class.
I need to find that clip, because they explain it more articulately.
But that's what I mean - there's an underlying issue (turmoil in the Middle East) and because that isn't solved and only gets worse, the attitudes remain in place. There's more to it, and I do believe culture isn't an untouchable subject either but it is something I don't usually want to broach.
All that aside - Olmert pushes back against the pogrom comparison and attributes the animosity to the genocide (he doesn't call it that though).
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u/LeviOsa_not_LeviOSAR Nov 17 '24
There's no attempt to understand that in the US and I think the same inability to understand is there when talking about political attitudes.
I completely agree with this statement. We're seeing that now with how people are reacting to the election results. It also reminds me of imperial boomerang.
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u/koi88 Nov 18 '24
People in America like to complain about immigration, but neoliberal economic policies and America's never-ending wars cause migration events.
Same here in Europe. When some right-wing German guys on social media celebrate I answer "prepare to welcome a million refugees from Lebanon knocking on your door then. Thank you, Netanyahu."
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