r/JewsOfConscience • u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ Jewish Anti-Zionist • Nov 06 '24
News UN Rapporteur Francesca Albanese addresses the 'right to exist' talking-point.
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u/Ok_Editor_710 Non-denominational Nov 06 '24
Please don't misunderstand me, folks.
But Francesca's courage is undeniably sexy.
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u/MartinLutherVanHalen Nov 07 '24
She’s BRAT.
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u/carnivalist64 Nov 07 '24
She's attractive, regardless of her political positions. It's bizarre that it almost feels like a crime for a man to say that these days
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u/Least_Cauliflower687 Jewish Anti-Zionist Nov 07 '24
truly was no reason to add that last part
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u/carnivalist64 Nov 15 '24
Given that complimenting a famous woman's attractiveness is clearly seen as a crime by many people these days I respectfully disagree.
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u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ Jewish Anti-Zionist Nov 06 '24
Source:
https://x.com/SMohyeddin/status/1853888720161698019
Full news conference on Parliament Hill in Ottawa:
Chomsky also addressed the talking-point in a 1988 debate at OSU with neocon Richard Perle.
The notion in-question is a political ploy. That was its intended purpose - as Chomsky states, 'to up the ante' once the PLO accepted that Israel was a factual reality.
That wasn't enough - Israel then demanded that its victims accept the alleged intrinsic political legitimacy of their own expulsion and oppression.
AFAIK, not even the US demands that indigenous peoples accept the alleged intrinsic political legitimacy of Manifest Destiny.
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u/sudo_apt-get_intrnet LGBTQ Jew Nov 06 '24
AFAIK, not even the US demands that indigenous peoples accept the alleged intrinsic political legitimacy of Manifest Destiny.
They don't now because the indigenous population is now so small and depowered as to be effectively rendered incapable of resistance. Back during the Manifest Destiny time period itself the US acquired land "legally" through "treaties" and the native population would be force to accept being "civilized" (which includes acknowledging the moral "correctness" of Manifest destiny" or face extermination.
Personally I believe that if Israel were to also kill 90% of the Palestinians and sequester the rest to "reservations" like Bibi and Trump seem want to do they'd also "start feeling bad" about it after 100 years like the US pretends to (and also like the US not actually do anything to rectify the problem).
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u/reenaltransplant Mizrahi Nov 06 '24
Hundreds of broken treaties.
And please don't forget: there was an entire political camp of "Removalists" at the time of the Civil War that advocated for indigenous displacement.
The Lincoln administration was actively Removalist. Frederick Douglass gave Removalist speeches, arguing the Indigenous were not "civilizable" like African-Americans.
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u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ Jewish Anti-Zionist Nov 06 '24
I remember thinking that anti-indigenous people sentiment was unique from racism; because I recall reading that Mark Twain was sympathetic to abolitionism but hated Native Americans.
For whatever reason that stuck in my head, and I feel like colonial societies have a unique hatred for the colonized because of an underlying insecurity - thus, they functionally need to have an absurd level of hate to justify the unjustifiable.
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u/reenaltransplant Mizrahi Nov 06 '24
"Settler colonialism as structure" -- a political-economic system that fundamentally incentivizes indigenous dispossession naturally leads to stratified society and amplifies racism as well as sexism.
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u/cupcakefascism Jewish Communist Nov 07 '24
Settler psychology is fascinating and pretty defined in that you see the same psychology in settlers everywhere.
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u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ Jewish Anti-Zionist Nov 06 '24
Excellent point.
This reminds me of the recent event where Biden apologized for the forced re-education of indigenous peoples, who were taken from their parents and placed in boarding schools. Similar thing happened in Canada.
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u/Launch_Zealot Arab/Armenian-American Ally Nov 06 '24
If only we lived in a world where she could be POTUS.
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u/Last_Tarrasque Non religious Jewish communist Nov 06 '24
Isreal is a settler colony, it has no right to exist
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u/Embarrassed_Brief_97 Nov 07 '24
We elected Albanese as Prime Minister of Australia. But we got the wrong one.
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