A flag for all Jews over the world, without mandatory connection with (Medinat/State of) Israel. This flag stands for support and solidarity between all of us, regardless of language, place(s) of origin and residence, political views, religious conversion, practice, denomination or lack thereof, matrilineal descent, patrilineal descent or exclusively Jewish upbringing, visible or invisible Jewishness, ethnic and/or religious Jewishness, etc.
The design is meant to be simple, yet easily recognisable and historically meaningful. The white symbolises joy in Judaism and water, since water connect all of us across continents. The flag uses argaman (aka tyrian purple), white and a silhouette of the Magen David (aka star of David) for a distinctive simplified design that unites all of us through a common history.
as the meaning of the star of david evolves out of something we can use to represent ourselves as anti zionists, why can’t the jewish anarchist symbol become an umbrella symbol for jewish anti zionists?
I'm not talking about that at all. I'm talking about a flag that denotes identity, belonging, etc., without any other things, including political views
yes that is what i’m saying. i already know jews who use that symbol just to denote their jewishness whether they are anarchists or not because it is representative of a non zionist jewish identity. symbols themselves don’t follow strict ideological guidelines, they follow the ideological guidelines of the people who use them. this is currently a symbol, yes primarily used by jewish anarchists, but is also quickly being adopted by some anti zionist jews in general as a cultural marker separate from anarchism
I admire the intention 100%, but I don't think the Magen David is the universal, neutral symbol that many of us want it to be. Is there another one that you'd think to use?
Its origin as a modern symbol of Judaism is inextricable from Zionism, sadly. It was not co-opted. The temple menorah is one of my favorites, but is also used as the emblem of the state of Israel. I've been wrestling with the symbolism for a while.
Sure, as do many other similar symbols. The seal of Solomon was not unique to Judaism and never had religious meaning. It still doesn't, not really. It was not explicitly Jewish until selected at the Zionist Congress precisely because it was not religious.
tbh... this is the first such flag in general, at least one of them. well, actually, magen david is not only associated with (medinat) israel, but with jewishness and judaism in general.
No, but calling it a religion is just blatantly incorrect. When we've been discriminated against, our faith has never truly mattered. The flag of Israel is often used to represent Jews, but not all of us are associated with a genocidal colonialist state. I won't be using this flag, but some of us want to have a symbol for all Jews.
It's actually never been a very popular Jewish symbol (or an exclusively Jewish symbol) until the late 1800s and the rise of Zionism.. of course it isn't only a Zionist symbol either.. but it's also not only a Jewish symbol historically! It comes from the seal of Solomon
The menorah is the only exclusively Jewish symbol that has existed for a long time. We also have plenty of others!
All that said, we can agree to disagree with the similarities. This flag places the Star of David in the center of the flag which to me isn't distinct enough.. it just feels like another iteration. Why not take this opportunity to make something totally unique?
There are ornaments, synangogues, ruins, coins, and art before and after 70 AD with the Magen David on it. Also a temple menorah is one of Israel's adopted symbols as well.
The colors remind me a bit too much of Qatar. I'd stick with blue, since that has historical and religious significance as well, being the color of tekhelet.
I think your cause is noble, but that design does not clearly indicate a link to Judaism, at least to my eyes. It looks like a generic six-pointed star, not the Magen David.
I still don't think that all Arab Jews or Mizrahim, and other subethnoses will be ready to use yiddish flag. There will obviously be someone who will resist. That's why there is that flag, tho
This Star has nothing to do with the Jewish Population or Religion.
It is not a David's Star.
Because David was not in Space.
and David had a belief in Hashem - Hakadosh Baruch Hu - The Creator and the Lord of the world.
He had no business with stars and Symbols.
By the way his tribes symbol was a Lion not a Star.
This Star comes from Africa and Asia.
India and Ethiopia.
Some Muslims also use it.
Even the Academic researches didn't prove that this Sign\Symbol is Jewish.
Zionists just created Symbols like Shabtai Zvi's Messianic movement who were Kabalists Satanists and Took the Pentagram of the Satan to a new level.
I’m not sure about the validity of the claims they’re making. But I do know that Magen David is more of a recent symbol in Jewish history. It was not a symbol that the Judeans would’ve associated with Jewish identity. They would’ve likely used the 🕎 symbol.
By oldest Masoretic Text I mean the oldest surviving copy of the Masoretic Text (look up Leningrad codex). I wouldn’t deny that the ancient Judaeans likely didn’t use the Magen David, but it is a symbol we use now and a symbol that has been associated with Judaism for a long time now.
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