r/JewsOfConscience • u/isawasin Non-Jewish Ally • Sep 27 '24

History Journalist Aaron Maté schools the other guests on Piers Morgan Uncensored as to the Nakba and Israel's blocking of the so-called 'peace process'

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u/OrganicOverdose Non-Jewish Ally Sep 27 '24

How are we still having this stupid argument? The facts are clear. The history is known. The ICJ has already ruled on the apartheid. The interim terms have been laid out for the genocide. The ICC needs to issue its warrants. Israeli commentators are clearly either entertaining a biased agenda or brainwashed. The rest is just clicks for Piers Morgan, who profits off the suffering of others.

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u/SirPansalot Non-Jewish Ally Sep 28 '24

Holy shit, when and where did the ICJ rule rule it as apartheid? (Genuine question btw)

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u/OrganicOverdose Non-Jewish Ally Sep 28 '24

Back in July. Here are the details.

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u/SirPansalot Non-Jewish Ally Sep 28 '24

Thank you so much!

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u/SirPansalot Non-Jewish Ally Sep 28 '24

Sources? On MY REDDIT??

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u/OrganicOverdose Non-Jewish Ally Sep 28 '24

Straight from the horse's mouth.

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u/isawasin Non-Jewish Ally Sep 27 '24

Maté's final "bit of advice" was a powerful end to his time speaking. But the idea of forcing Israel to accept pre-67 borders at this point leaves me feeling hollow. After all this? Once the hammer of justice finally comes down, the idea of there not being punitive repercussions, territorially, would be madness. And I say this as someone who wants to see Israel replaced entirely.

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u/Saul_al-Rakoun Conservadox & Marxist Sep 27 '24

At the very least, the IDF has to be completely dismantled, declared an illegal criminal organization like the SS was, and its top leaders imprisoned until they die.

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u/baby_muffins Sep 27 '24

What should it be replaced with? Just curious as I haven't heard this argument before

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u/isawasin Non-Jewish Ally Sep 28 '24

I could go longer, but to keep it short: a single, democratic state where each citizen's rights, responsibilities, and accountability are equal, under the law and in practice, regardless of "race," religion, ethnicity or such potentially divisive identifiers.

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u/screedor Sep 28 '24

Yeah, truly the amount of resources backing Zionist they could have taken over the area through gentrification more quickly. They couldn't violently shove their own sense of superiority and they wouldn't have had to treat others as human though.

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u/screedor Sep 28 '24

What did we need to replace the SS with?

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u/RNGmaster Sep 28 '24

Aaron Mate is an apologist for Assad's Syria, which isn't exactly a friend of the Palestinian people.

Fuck him. There's plenty of pro-Palestinian voices that aren't Assad apologists to platform.

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u/SirPansalot Non-Jewish Ally Oct 08 '24

I was watching this in full after saving this for the first time, and I was like: Damn, this guy’s based as I check OP’s excellent sourcing of all the statements said (which makes the women saying that tidbit of “Shlomo Avi saying that if he was a Palestinian he wouldn’t have taken David” as untrue extra funny) but then I read your comment down below, and the e-rank theme form Sonic Unleashed just started playing in my head