r/JewsOfConscience • u/Artistic-Vanilla-899 Non-Jewish Ally • Aug 19 '24

History Dahiya Doctrine:

https://bylinetimes.com/2024/04/11/israel-gaza-war-leaked-documents/

The Dahiya Doctrine was crafted in 2008. It tells the IDF to use disproportionate lethal force against civilian populations. It is a partnership between Israel and America.

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u/Artistic-Vanilla-899 Non-Jewish Ally Aug 19 '24

Worth noting a prominent source for this information was Wikileaks, thanks to Julian Assange and Chelsea Manning

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/revealer-of-inconvenient-truths-julian-assanges-impact-on-palestine/

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u/MooreThird Anti-Zionist Aug 19 '24

How much of all of these evidence, be it the Dahiya, Hannibal, the Sde Teiman etc. has been dismissed by the even the most "liberal" supporters of Israel as an antisemitic conspiracy? There hasn't been any response by these "liberals", not even a denial or two.

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u/Artistic-Vanilla-899 Non-Jewish Ally Aug 19 '24

Exactly. And somehow we're the "radicals" whi just want answers and justice for blatant disregard if moral and international law.

Even Obama was at the forefront of this policy. I still can't stop the memory of Netanyah lecturing Obama live in his own while Obama just rolled his eyes.

Funny its Haaretz sometimes the Guardian along with sources like 972, the Intercept doing these investigations, but not a peep from most so-called liberals I'm elected office.

Meanwhile, Smotrich is leading a massive settlement push in the West Bank. Settler terrorists are wrecking havoc on Palestinians with the aid of the the IDF and IOF. Biden's team was going to sanction Smotrich, but decided not to after Bibi's visit.

Their values are meaningless. There is little wisdom or courage or just an amateur understanding of the conflict. Like you brought up, they just so often believe its blood libel or something. America has been with Israel through most of this, so that makes no sense at all.

It's insane.

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u/MooreThird Anti-Zionist Aug 19 '24

Indeed.

Plus, there's not even a peep of defence or denial from those liberals, especially when actual Jewish lives have been threatened by the Zionist regime, including those who actually agreed with the regime's policies, but nevertheless, for example, one Israeli citizen, who's a lawyer, got shot point blank by the IDF while defending himself against Hamas intruders; or the three hostages who were released but also shot dead by their supposed rescuers. That, alongside protesters demanding hostage release, if not a ceasefire, getting hosed on the streets; or the ultra-Orthodox refusing to be drafted into this wasteful "war". And we've not even touched the mass discrimination of other minority Jews, like the Mizrahi or the Ethiopians.

None of the above have been confirmed or denied by these liberals.

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u/Artistic-Vanilla-899 Non-Jewish Ally Aug 19 '24

Some even defend it.

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u/menatarp Aug 19 '24

Eisenkot was very careful in the original interview to talk about destroying civilian infrastructure rather than civilians, though this of course is still state terrorism and a war crime. Eiland seems to have this role as a half-in half-out figure out spelling out this policy more explicitly, including in Gaza.

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u/Artistic-Vanilla-899 Non-Jewish Ally Aug 20 '24

Maybe they thought this might be criminal or unethical m, hence the doublesepeak. But scorching the earth and getting away with it vis a vis American unequivocal support, they are not afraid to call Amalek or occupy the Al Aqsa. Like a drug addict, and America the enabler