r/InternationalNews • u/Particular_Log_3594 • 13d ago
Opinion/Analysis Game of Thrones star Liam Cunningham speaks out for Palestine
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u/TayluxSwift 13d ago
Lot of the game of thrones cast seem very pro palestine
Charles Dance (tywin lannister), lena headey (cersei) and carice van houten (red woman) and i think stannis Baratheon’s actor is one too
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u/Baslifico 13d ago
Lot of the game of thrones cast seem very pro palestine
Most of them spent time in Morocco filming.
It's far easier to hate a race of people you don't know personally.
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u/I_Play_Boardgames 13d ago edited 13d ago
i mean Israelis spend their time sharing space with arabs in Israel all the time and still cheer for their genocide en masse. Most of the "we are against the war in Gaza" i've heard out of palestine is always just "we need to prioritize safety for our hostages", not "WE SHOULDN'T BE MURDERING CHILDREN!". And upwards of 70% of Israeli jews are pro war in Gaza.
So i'd caution the notion of "they have empathy because they got to know the culture". I personally can't stand most arabs i met in my life, my personality just doesn't gel with the majority of theirs. Yet i am an avid palestine defender, because it literally doesn't matter what race or culture or whatever they are. I was even at a university speech from Francesca Albanese just 2 weeks ago. It has nothing to do with me "knowing" their culture, i actively don't get along with arabs.
What it truly is about is human decency.
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u/Baslifico 12d ago
i mean Israelis spend their time sharing space with arabs in Israel all the time
Whilst being part of an illegal occupation that's been running over 70 years.
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u/Organic_Risk_8080 13d ago
I'm also not a personal fan of most of the Arabs I met in their own lands during my short stint as an agent for the American military, and yet I too oppose the Israeli genocide. My take is that the Irish and their friends have an intimate and ongoing relationship with imperialism that gives them the perspective needed to identify genocide even when it's allegedly committed for their benefit or the benefit of those they might otherwise support.
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u/I_Play_Boardgames 13d ago
can it not just be that some people simply dislike injustice and hypocrisy?
That's why i am against it: i hate injustice and hypocrisy with a fiery passion. To the point i've almost been killed for it on more than one occasion.
I've always been like that since i was a kid. This has nothing to do with culture or nationality or something my family/people/etc had to endure. I simply hate injustice and inequal treatment and especially hypocrisy (looking at you, USA).
It might just be that Liam Cunningham et al are also just simply against injustice. There doesn't have to be some deeper reason like "we suffered the same" or "we experienced their culture" etc. Trying to reduce a sense of justice to some special event or historic fact is like saying people are inherently injust unless something extraordinary changed them. You don't need a special event in your life to be against injustice.
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u/Organic_Risk_8080 13d ago
I wish I had your optimism, but I look around and see, at best, indifference. My experience has been that suffering only matters to those who have suffered.
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u/Reddeadseries 13d ago
Any sources on what they said about Palestine?
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u/TayluxSwift 13d ago
Couple of them are actively posting on their socials too like Lena Headey and Liam Cunningham
And Sean Bean (Ned Stark) was at a pro palestine protest too
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u/_SaucepanMan 13d ago
I came upon a clip of Charles Dance reciting the history accurately of Palestine, in very much the same tone as Liam here. I haven't a link for you though
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u/EmployAltruistic647 10d ago
Pro-Palestine or simply supporting human rights?
Is morality partisan these days?
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u/Particular_Log_3594 13d ago
December 14, 2024. Irish actor Liam Cunningham voiced strong support for Palestine at a panel in Istanbul, Türkiye, as he condemned the ongoing genocide and warned that the world is dangerously close to another World War.
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u/kriznelrok 13d ago
Over the past couple months I got banned from roughly 10 subreddits for calling out the Israeli government as lunatics and reminding everyone that they have been guilty of apartheid for a very long time…folks even went as far as telling me that every single Jew and Israelite has only ever been a victim since the holocaust and nothing more. Reddit can be such a massive shit hole
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u/schnupfhundihund 13d ago
Gee, who would have thought, that someone from Ireland, a country with its own history of being colonized by its neighbors and having genocidal methods used on its people, might be able to have empathy and understanding for Palestinians.
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u/AffectionateElk3978 13d ago
Cause there was so much saving of Palestine before?? Get out of here, Kamala would have shot kids herself if she thought it would have gotten her elected.
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u/eidolonengine 13d ago
Even as someone that voted for Kamala, that's just silly. Everything that has happened so far, the 50,000 innocent deaths, the bombings, the misinformation, and the funding of the genocide, has all happened with Biden as President and Harris as VP. We're still sending bombs and money at this very moment.
Neither wing of the one money party gives a shit about us or Palestine. Harris, Trump...it's going to happen regardless, because both parties support genocide.
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u/spacekiller69 13d ago
Difference is Trump would let Israel take the west bank and drive the rest of palenstine into the Egyptian desert like a modern trail of tears.
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u/eidolonengine 13d ago
Isn't Israel already committing war crimes in West Bank?
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u/spacekiller69 13d ago
Yes but that would be textbook ethnic cleansing that would make a nazi jealous.
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u/eidolonengine 13d ago
How is Biden currently preventing it from being worse?
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u/spacekiller69 13d ago
He's a immoral zionist but he puts the facade of caring about Gaza lives. Trump says he let bibi finish them off with no handcuffs. I guess Trump atleast mask off with his hatred.
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u/I_Play_Boardgames 13d ago
Sadly we do need WW3 to happen. And this time the US and Israel need to be on the losing side.
As gruesome as it was WW2 was necessary to protect the jewish people (and a bunch of other often forgotten groups, like black people, slavs, anyone with birth defects etc) from genocide. Germany would have never stopped on their own. And Israel (and the US) won't either. So what do we prefer, to choose to let it happen or to swallow the bitter pill of reality and realizing we need to stop it in a global effort.
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u/mkzw211ul 13d ago
Did WW2 have anything to do with the holocaust? I thought that knowledge of the holocaust wasn't available to the public until sometime after 1942, and whilst governments knew earlier it did not play a part in their political and military strategy. Correct me if i am mistaken.
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u/I_Play_Boardgames 12d ago
I believe you're misunderstanding what i'm saying. I'm not claiming WW2 happened to prevent the holocaust (it didn't), but that without WW2 happening the holocaust would have been carried out.
If you hit your head on a door and go to the hospital to get an MRI and they randomly find a brain tumor then it is a good thing you hit your head. You didn't do it because you knew you'd get an MRI that finds a tumor, but without it happening the doctors wouldn't have seen the tumor. Same with WW2. It wasn't started due to the (then unknown) holocaust, but WW2 happening prevented the completion of the holocaust nontheless.
In israel's case we just already know that a holocaust 2.0 is going on this time instead of finding out coincidentally. Which is why we need a WW3 to stop it, the same way WW2 (coincidentally) stopped the holocaust.
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u/Aluja89 12d ago
WW2 didn't happen to protect the jews lol, that's just what was being pushed in school.
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u/I_Play_Boardgames 12d ago
i never said it happened because of the holocaust, i said that it was necessary to stop it. Meaning: If WW2 had not happened (meaning the world hadn't declared war on the axis to stop them) then the holocaust would have been fully carried out.
But you know, you could have also just read my reply to the other guy that commented well before you. And no clue what hillbilly school you went to that you think schools teach that WW2 was started to prevent the holocaust lol. What i said was that WW2 STOPPED the holocaust, and was necessary (in hindsight) to stop it.
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u/B3atingUU 12d ago
We don’t need WW3. Let’s not do that.
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u/I_Play_Boardgames 11d ago
would you say we didn't need WW2?
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u/B3atingUU 11d ago
It’s really not comparable.
It’s also not necessary for every or nearly all the countries in the world to engage in armed conflict to help those in Gaza or Syria. Foreigners don’t exactly have the greatest track record of making things better post-war in besieged countries, anyway.
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u/I_Play_Boardgames 11d ago
what is not comparable? I asked you a simple question.
Would you say we didn't need WW2?
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u/B3atingUU 11d ago
WW3, if it happened as you propose it should, is not comparable to WW2.
World War 2 was inevitable because so many countries had become embroiled in the conflict with Germany and its allies invading and claiming land. Aside from having to provide protection, it sparked fear for allies of those countries, which drove them to join the fight. The USA, who you’re saying should lose this hypothetical WW3, didn’t join WW2 until Dec 1941 (WW2 started Sept 1939) and secured victory for the Allies by the bombing of Japan with the atomic bombs.
WW2 is the deadliest war to date with some 75mil killed, that doesn’t include those murdered during the Holocaust/concentration camps. The horrors of the atomic bombs live on, those who were unfortunate to be hit by the bombs but survived suffered physically, mentally and socially by their countrymen. Humans have only gotten more adept at killing. Why would we want another world war? What will the death count be at then? How many people, young individuals, will we send off to die? How will we kill them, chemical weapons, nuclear weapons? To want another world war is unthinkable.
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