r/InternationalNews • u/Usernameoverloaded • Oct 25 '24
Opinion/Analysis We, Israelis, are calling for global pressure on Israel to force an immediate ceasefire
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/24/israel-immediate-ceasefire-open-letter169
u/Pumpkinfactory Oct 25 '24
There already are international pressure. Except the US laughs at all of them and doubles down with their military support.
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u/TheOrchidsAreAlright Oct 25 '24
AFAIK Germany and the USA are the two biggest supporters, with the UK close behind.
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Oct 25 '24
Any politician not talking about revoking dual citizenship and banning all citizens of occupied palestine is utterly worthless.
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u/Usernameoverloaded Oct 25 '24
“We, Israeli citizens residing in Israel and abroad, call on the international community – the UN and its institutions, the United States, the European Union, the League of Arab States, and all states around the world – to intervene immediately and implement every possible sanction towards achieving an immediate ceasefire between Israel and its neighbors, for the future of both peoples in Israel and Palestine and the peoples of the region and for their rights to security and life.
Many of us are veteran activists against the occupation, for peace and mutual existence in this land. We are motivated by our love for the land and its residents, and we are concerned for their future. We have been horrified by the war crimes committed by Hamas and other organizations on 7 October and we are horrified by the countless war crimes that Israel is committing. Unfortunately, the majority of Israelis support the continuation of the war and massacres, and a change from within is not currently feasible. The state of Israel is on a suicidal path and sows destruction and devastation that increase day by day.
The government of Israel has abandoned its citizens who are hostages (and has killed some), it has neglected the residents of the south and north of Israel, and it has forsaken the fate and future of all of its citizens. Israel’s Palestinian citizens are persecuted and silenced by state authorities and by the wider public. It is our opinion that the repression, intimidation and political persecution prevent many who share our views from joining this call.
Every day that goes by further distances any possible horizon for a regional agreement and reconciliation, a future where Jewish Israelis can live with security in this place. Achieving these will require lengthy processes, but the constant massacres and destruction must be stopped immediately!
The lack of true international pressure, the continuation of arms supplies to Israel, economic and security partnerships and scientific and cultural collaborations, bring most Israelis to believe that Israel’s policies enjoy international support. The leaders of many countries make repeated statements about the horror they feel and verbally denounce Israel’s operations, but these condemnations are not backed by practical actions. We are replete with empty words and declarations.
Please, for our futures and the futures of all of the residents of Israel and the region, save us from ourselves and use real pressure on Israel for an immediate ceasefire.“
More than 2,000 Israeli citizens have signed this letter.
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u/niftygrid Oct 25 '24
2,000 against the whole government..
That'll be very, very tough. Close to impossible.
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u/baddadjokesminusdad Oct 25 '24
Not easy having a backbone while being under — or belonging to — an authoritarian govt.
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u/Dizzy_Challenge_7692 Oct 25 '24
These objectors to genocide are very brave and should be applauded and supported… but they are too few among the Israelis, it is too late given the vast destruction of Gaza and West Bank that will take decades if not centuries to rebuilt, the terrible trauma Palestinian children have had to endure, and Hamas are still painted as war criminals, which they are not.
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u/ElGuapoLives Oct 25 '24
Well it's nice to see there are some inside the country not supporting the genocide in Gaza or the death and destruction in Lebanon. Hopefully their government listens
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u/Designer_Systems Oct 25 '24
i dont believe that for sec, time after time they wanted more destruction, this is just propaganda
there is no isr, just occupied Palastine
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u/D0UB1EA Oct 25 '24
I find it pretty easy to believe 2000 out of 10 million want the occupation and genocide to end. That's not even a percent.
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u/Designer_Systems Oct 25 '24
your estimate sound reasonable, the other guys are 100k
another thinks we all still believe the colonisers myths
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u/self-assembled Oct 25 '24
There are probably around 5% of the Israeli Jewish population who oppose the bombing on humanitarian grounds, or something like 100,000 people, based on some polls.
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u/TheHashLord Oct 25 '24
The problem now is that if Israel is not supplied any weapons, then hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, etc will continue to retaliate anyway.
Does anyone really think that now after all the death and destruction we can just say 'ok let's call a truce and be happy neighbours'?
It's too late.
Israel has already condemned itself.
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u/HikmetLeGuin Oct 26 '24
Or Israel can pursue peace by giving back at least some of the occupied land, allowing displaced Palestinians to return to their homeland, paying reparations, ending their apartheid system, and recognizing Palestine as part of either a one state or two state solution founded on principles of equality, justice, and democracy.
I realize that sounds unlikely given the extremism of the Israeli government, but they have the ability to foster peace if they truly choose to.
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u/TheHashLord Oct 26 '24
And as with world wars 1 and 2, the oppressor will only pay reparations when they are forced to. Once they are defeated.
Israel has clearly said they won't give Gaza back.
So why is anyone talking about ceasefire now.
Israel doesn't want a ceasefire and they've been very clear about it.
They simply want to expand Israel.
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u/Dontfckwithtime Oct 25 '24
Unfortunately, I don't think the U.S. is going to do anything until the election is over. Im also just a random person so take my comment with a grain of salt. I feel so bad for all those innocent people.
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u/dudenurse13 Oct 25 '24
Good for the person that wrote this article but what is the actual majority opinion in Israel? Would the majority of Israelis agree to a ceasefire that include the entirety of their forces pulling out of Gaza?
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u/shellacr Oct 25 '24
They mention that in the article. Majority is pro war. That’s why they are calling for outside pressure.
I’m not sure why that is important for you. If a majority of a population were agreeable with enslaving a small minority for example, would that be ok?
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u/WillBigly Oct 25 '24
.........go on a general strike, walk out onto the street and protest......some of us have already been doing these things lmao step up
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u/Impressive_Scheme_53 Oct 25 '24
Maybe Israel will start bombing itself to get these clear Hamas and that will help end this. Logically speaking from Israel standards they should bomb the apartment buildings where the signatories live
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u/Athedeus Oct 25 '24
Move out. Israel is occupied land, living there is giving support to the Likud terrorists.
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u/Generalfrogspawn Oct 25 '24
2000 really isn’t a lot out of a country of 9 million. Where like 80% are genocidal.
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u/Spirited-Reputation6 Oct 25 '24
There is good people in Israel that sees what the current government is doing. Everyday more and more people want an end to the destruction.
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u/Aromatic_Bug_6759 Oct 26 '24
It’s a year late … but at least they’re trying? Ig? Idk how to feel rn
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