r/InternationalNews • u/Naurgul • Oct 06 '24
Middle East Mapped: Nearly 60% of Gaza damaged or destroyed in one year of war
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u/TutsiRoach Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24
https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/2023/11/15/a-new-tool-allows-researchers-to-track-damage-in-gaza/ (actual up to date interactive map here: https://ee-ollielballinger.projects.earthengine.app/view/gazadamage). Tells a much more damming story - with receipts
As do other methods not relying on restrictions around optical satellite views https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/inside-the-satellite-tech-revealing-gazas-destruction/ Actual up to date map not here but as if july it was already 59% https://www.conflict-damage.org/
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u/Zyhein07 Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 13 '24
Cruelty of Isreal is right there unfolding only if you choose to see it.
Edit: spelling.
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u/JROXZ Oct 06 '24
Wait for the “reconstruction”.
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u/GitmoGrrl1 Oct 07 '24
Israel wants the gas reserves off the coast of Gaza. That's why they will never allow the Palestinians to have it.
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Oct 07 '24
They were already controlling the coast! I'm in no support of Israel but what you are stating is pure bs and lack of knowledge.
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u/RepulsiveLeather8504 Oct 07 '24
Jewish settlers disagree with you.
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u/Icy-Welcome-2469 Oct 07 '24
"Resettlement "
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u/MarcMurray92 Oct 07 '24 edited Oct 07 '24
"Oh we need a buffer zone. Of your land. Oh no we live in the buffer zone now! We're going to need a buffer zone. Of your land." X 15
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u/Silent-Cauliflower61 Oct 07 '24
that would undoubtedly cause years of suffering for the Palestinian people, mines are awful
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u/Totoques22 Oct 07 '24
After all one more war crimes from the Islamist terrorist won’t change anything much
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Oct 07 '24
The Palestinian people are not terrorists (to be technical, a few Palestinians are terrorists, but the vast majority are not - just like the peoples of any other nation). The benefit of mining is it makes it so the genocidal Israelis, trying to perpetrate a new holocaust, can't just move in and settle the land they have stolen.
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u/Totoques22 Oct 07 '24
Hopefully the Gazans install mines over every square inch of land
Gazans aren’t terrorist until they start committing war crimes
And comparing this to the holocaust is reductive at best and malicious at worst
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Oct 07 '24
I don't see how. The Israelis won't stop until every single Palestinian is dead. Why would the dead care about committing war crimes. And a mass genocide of a people sure sounds like a holocaust. The abused have become the abusers.
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u/Totoques22 Oct 07 '24
Your out of this world if you think the Israelis are seriously trying to kill every Palestinians
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Oct 07 '24
I read the news. It is pretty obvious that is exactly what they are doing. Ethnic cleansing.
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u/Pruzter Oct 07 '24
I just can’t even fathom at this moment what this will look like. Will there even ever be a reconstruction? Is Gaza just going to a perpetual open air prison in ruins?
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u/Icy-Welcome-2469 Oct 07 '24
They were already settling it. Theyve also already started on a blocked off zone that of course only takes more from Palestine.
So palestine will be shrunk and partially occupied including triops forever.
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u/Professional-Most370 Oct 07 '24
This is pretty much what n@zi Germany said to their youth, when Soviet and western nations invade Germany during World War 2. " They are invaders, they are invadeing our fatherland.You mush protect and die for the fatherland."
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u/rahoo_reddit Oct 07 '24 edited Oct 07 '24
I am wondering what would you do if someone raped your daughter, killed your loved ones in the most cruel ways humanity can imagine.
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u/ReckAkira Oct 06 '24
Hamas barely has precision rockets. Hezbollah was 99% firing on Israeli military targets the whole time untill Israel escalated on civilians. Iran targetted 3 military airbases and the mossad HQ(mossad HQ was missed by 1500ft and nearly killed some drivers)
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u/Naurgul Oct 06 '24
Date: Starts on 7-10-2023. Ends on 24-9-2024.
Description: As of Sept. 25, Israeli military operations damaged or destroyed nearly 60% of buildings in Gaza, according to an analysis of satellite data conducted by Jamon Van Den Hoek of Oregon State University and Corey Scher of CUNY Graduate Center. An estimated 227,591 housing units have been damaged or destroyed, along with 68% of the enclave's road network, according to two recent analyses from the UN Satellite Center. "Only 17 of 36 hospitals remain partially functional, and all suffer from a lack of fuel, medical supplies, and clean water," Oxfam said this week. Reuters reports food insecurity in Gaza may worsen due to new customs rules on humanitarian aid.
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u/jsundberg31 Oct 06 '24
meanwhile Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, Boeing and General Dynamics are raking in that cheddar
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u/Salishseer Oct 07 '24
Israel is monstrous.
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u/Rowebot111 Oct 06 '24
I’m so surprised at the ignorance in this comment section… western propaganda has turned peoples minds into mud… 0 critical thinking abilities. A blind devotion to Israel without knowing shit about what they have put Palestinians through over the past 75 + years.
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u/HikmetLeGuin Oct 06 '24
Obviously genocide
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u/HansZeAssassin Oct 08 '24
Don’t you guys always claim it started in 49?
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u/pinqe Oct 08 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
That was the Nakba which was the initial massacre and upheaval. There have been periods of relative “peace” in between periods of violence since. When people refer to the current genocide they are talking about the Israel Hamas conflict post October. 7th. You already know this and are being disingenuous, and so you burdened me with having to educate you.
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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 Oct 09 '24
No, 48 was the beginning of the ethnic cleansing on Palestinians, Israeli historians such as Illan Pappe and Benny Morris document this.
The genocide in Gaza began last year. And is continuing to this day.
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u/Additional_Olive3318 Oct 10 '24
You kinda took a long period for Gaza than the others didn’t you.
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u/rahoo_reddit Oct 10 '24
In 2002, 2009, 2014, and yet again 2024 palestinians screams its a genocide. Do you see the positive slope in all these years ? Interesting. Not a very effective genocide because its not.
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u/rahoo_reddit Oct 10 '24
I guess its hard for you see actual facts, you prefer yelling meaningless misinformation to promote your agenda.
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u/Additional_Olive3318 Oct 10 '24
What facts does your idiotic graph prove. The actual statistics for the least year is what counts.
you prefer yelling meaningless misinformation to promote you agenda
It’s the agenda of the civilised world. Hence the international courts.
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u/bullhead2007 Oct 06 '24
Now overlay the population density over this and I'm sure it's almost identical.
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u/Naurgul Oct 07 '24
Someone crossposted it on r/mapporn and they're swarming in from there. The irony is they call every pro-Palestinian a bot yet they only repeat the same 2-3 thought-terminating clichés ("it's just how war is", "release the hostages", "they supported Hamas").
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u/kakegoe Oct 07 '24
A genocide against Palestinians. I will never forget Israel’s ongoing and astonishing acts of evil, and I will never forget the way my country aided and armed Israel throughout this wanton destruction.
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u/casteldaccia Oct 06 '24
42,000 palestinian killed in a year is not a war, it's a genocide.
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u/simplyfaster Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24
"It is likely that the death toll from this conflict is already greater than 118,908, an astonishing 5.4% of Gaza’s population." https://www.gazahealthcareletters.org/usa-letter-oct-2-2024
And an even larger plausible estimated number:
"it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186,000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza." https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext01169-3/fulltext)
"No other armed conflict in the twenty-first century has experienced such a devastating impact on a population in such a short timeframe. To find a 100-day period with greater bloodshed, it is necessary to go back to the 1994 genocide against the Tutsi in Rwanda."
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"Among the fatalities are 12,345 children [referring to the confirmed minimum number of 24,100 from January 15 2024], not including those who are still missing and presumably buried under the rubble. Children account for 47.3 per cent of the population of Gaza. This means that one Gazan child in every 85 has been killed since 7 October 2023, which is the highest rate by a wide margin when compared with other recent major conflicts." http://www.unescwa.org/sites/default/files/pubs/pdf/war_on_gaza_twenty_first_centurys_deadliest_100_days-en_0.pdf
and a big "fuck you" to anybody who thinks that this isn't a genocide.
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u/cabeep Oct 06 '24
Even those numbers seem fairly low given some of the photos I have seen and this map almost entirely showing the highly populated areas bombed. And the leader of the free world enthusiastically sends them the bombs to do this, crazy
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u/GorgeousRiver Oct 07 '24
You can see the bullshit but still think hes the "leader of the free world?" Lmao the world wont be free while America is doing this shit
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u/Rowebot111 Oct 06 '24
More recent estimates assume 200- 300,000 killed. All of the hospitals have been destroyed, and there is not really a way to count the dead anymore.
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u/bullhead2007 Oct 06 '24
And the 42,000 count is only what the health ministry can verify with dead bodies. Not people who were trapped under rubble or vaporized and never seen again, and it also doesn't count those who've died from disease or starvation since this started. It's definitely way more than what's reported.
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u/GitmoGrrl1 Oct 07 '24
That's become an excuse for ethnic cleansing.
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u/GitmoGrrl1 Oct 07 '24
Netanyahu knew that when he helped build up Hamas for over a decade. Or do you think Netanyahy forgot to read their charter?
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u/worldm21 Oct 07 '24
One-for-one with the map of developed areas/population density:
https://i.imgur.com/SQ8uIRQ.png
They're just demolishing it. As we should all be aware by now.
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u/kriznelrok Oct 06 '24
Unfortunately, it’s not until something like this occurs that ppl start to see the Israeli government for what they are. It’s sad when you got folks out there that genuinely do not understand the Jewish community and the Israeli government are two completely different entities with completely different ideologies.
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u/HippoRun23 Oct 07 '24
I mean, even if they take it all for themselves, what the fuck are they gonna do spend billions and billions of dollars to make it habitable again?
Oh right… us Americans will…
Fuck
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u/JustARandomFemboi Oct 07 '24
Israel has been murdering Palestinians since 1947. This isn't "war" it's a genocidal apartheid on occupied land backed by the world's superpowers. Anyone who calls this a war is lying to themselves.
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u/FCOranje Oct 07 '24
Since the late 1800s actually. The zionist movement and the terrorism by groups like LEHI and Irgun. Often covered up, but the displacement and murder predates world war 1.
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u/JustARandomFemboi Oct 07 '24
International law stoped them from going all out like they are now, after October 7th they could use the excuse of "Israel has a right to defend it's self" to pretty much do whatever they want and the US and UK would back them up and continue selling them weapons even after multiple violations of international law.
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u/JustARandomFemboi Oct 07 '24
In 1948 more than 200,000 Palestinians where displaced from what is now Israel, most of them ended up in Gaza. In 1967 Israel decided that they wanted Gaza too, over 2,000 Palestinians where either killed, tortured or imprisoned. Israel then routinely attacked and even killed peaceful protesters, this led to the first and second intefadas(intefada roughly translates to uprising or rebellion). Then in 2007 Israel placed a blockade on the Gaza strip cutting it off from land sea and air, making it a open air prison. Active genocide is just the latest of Israels multiple acts against humanity in the past 80 years. Since October 7th last year more than 40,000 Palestinians have been murdered, the majority of them women and children. That's more than any of the other "wars" between Israel and Palestine combined, that sounds like a genocide to me
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u/servel20 Oct 07 '24
If you hit all of Gaza, you're bound to hit Khamas. The Israeli military, now they're doing the exact same thing in Lebanon, financed by Uncle Sam.
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u/DBL_NDRSCR Oct 07 '24
i will say this again, whether it's resistance or occupation, killing innocent people is bad. israel's treatment of palestinians over the past 76 years has made them angry
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u/NineClaws Oct 07 '24
This has been the plan for a long time. Kushner and his patrons are planning luxury hotels and resorts once they have cleansed the region.
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u/MacBareth Oct 07 '24
Imagine if this was done by someone other than the most moral army of the world. The damage would be so much worth.
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u/peet192 Oct 07 '24
One state confederative solution is the only solution to this conflict. Akin to Switzerland or Bosnia Herzegovinians.
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u/SovietCapitalism Oct 07 '24
What actually comes next after this war is over. Is Israel gonna rebuild Gaza for a new Palestinian entity to govern? Are they gonna expel the Palestinians to the Sinai and build settlements?
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u/rickysunnyvale Oct 07 '24
This isn’t a war. This is trying to fend off, a modern army with 2k bombs and tanks, with sticks and stones.
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u/T_H_E__S_C_H_M_U_C_K Oct 07 '24
Important to note that 60% geographically equates to a way higher percentage of the population, since they mostly targeted highly populated areas
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u/Grouchy-Addition-818 Oct 07 '24
Ok, what does the color mean? Buildings destroyed? Bombs dropped? And what’s the source? A map with no legend and no source is just as useful as a blank sheet
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u/Grouchy-Addition-818 Oct 07 '24
Except that it doesn’t explain the map
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u/Naurgul Oct 07 '24
It's buildings destroyed or damaged, like is mentioned in the title and in the article. If you need more details about what exactly counts as "destroyed or damaged", check out the interactive site which in turn cites two papers:
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u/janky-dog Oct 07 '24
Yes, now the Kushners and developers and speculators will be beginning to make moves, just as planned.
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u/Easy-Meal5308 Oct 07 '24
Once 2024 arrived the destruction rapidly slowed down, the genocide is still as bad as ever though
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u/desy4life Oct 06 '24
It's always been about squashing the inmates,after the inmate riot that took place last year they had to kill those who thought of fighting back too.
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u/Naurgul Oct 07 '24 edited Oct 07 '24
It's annoying to have to deal with the same cliché arguments. How many times does one ought to reply to disingenuous meaningless slogans like "return the hostages and it will all be over"? And you guys have the rest of reddit, including the largest and most popular subs to say what you want.
With that said, I don't think anyone who is "pro-Israel" or "anti-Palestine" should be automatically banned, but I do think the rules for hate speech and incitement of violence should be judiciously applied to them.
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u/simplyfaster Oct 06 '24
enjoy your theme park built on the mutilated corpses of women and children. freak.
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