r/InternationalNews • u/Naurgul • Oct 05 '24
Middle East One year in Gaza since the 7 October attack – photo essay NSFW
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u/Usual_Caregiver_5013 Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24
The amount of bloodshed and suffering that has happened because of all this hate. If we’re in an age where peace is not the solution and we choose violence then we really haven’t progressed and this hate will only grow. It’s come to a point where we think that’s normal and not our problem.
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u/SmallNefariousness98 Oct 06 '24
Actually I think it's Greed that is the motivation.
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u/lukehasthedos Oct 06 '24
Greed is humanity’s greatest flaw. It’s not even up for debate
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u/GermanRedditorAmA Oct 06 '24
It's not humanity's flaw it's the flaw of individuals, because (western) society has failed to offer them real values and education. We have moved too fast, people are out of touch with themselves, their emotions and their surroundings.
There's enough for everyone as long as no one wants more than they need. Working together will always be better than against each other. That's what we have to understand. On the other hand, money is a number which is easier to understand, it's easy to compare, people think more is better. Well well they're all gonna die and regret their ignorance and shortsightedness one way or another. Or change, in time.
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u/amoskt15041991 Oct 06 '24
haha yeh it’s just a western society thing. There is no greed in the global south; or the east for that matter. Western society should certainly take a page from chinas book when it comes to real values. West is so bad!!!!!!!!
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u/GermanRedditorAmA Oct 06 '24
Nothing you said was implied in my reply, your reaction is very immature. I come from a western society so it is the only cultural background I can properly criticize. Brackets can be ignored and the meaning still stands, as is their use case in writings.
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u/nickelchrome Oct 06 '24
This is propaganda, this isn’t caused by hate, it’s caused by a people who migrated in mass to a region and displaced the local population, subjugated them, and has ruled over them with the help of imperialist powers.
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u/Daddys_Fat_Buttcrack Oct 06 '24
In the modern world, there's no reason for wars other than blood lust. Every issue should be able to be settled diplomatically.
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u/lespaul991 Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24
It's all studied by the extremist leaders. They are following the messages of the text "the management of savagery," written for Al-Qaeda in 2004 by one of the high-ranking extremist. The purpose is to create and spread hate so to use civilians as a war instrument towards a civil war and discontent in the worldwide media. It's disgusting. These people are among the most dangerous alive.
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u/chica1987 Oct 06 '24
I just don’t comprehend how and why the oppressed needs to become an oppressor. The lack of humanity and humanity is non existent.
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u/StupidElephants Oct 06 '24
I don’t understand why the US supports Israel so much. What happened on October 7th was terrible but I definitely don’t support what Israel has done. I don’t get it. Why do we support Israel? Can someone explain like I’m five why the US stands by Israel even though they’ve committed horrible atrocities in Gaza?
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u/awesome-o-2000 Oct 06 '24
There’s got to be multiple reasons but from what I can understand. Perpetual warfare is at least part of the reason because it always gives a reason to send billions of dollars towards “defense” companies for more weapons. The Middle East is rich in resources so having an ally where military power can easily be exerted from is powerful. Israeli money has made US politicians very rich to the point that both parties take tons of money from Israel and unequivocally support Israel. There’s a pretty decent population of Christians in America that support Israel for religious reasons so that doesn’t hurt. Ultimately poor Palestinian farmers have nothing of value to offer the US but the nation of Israel has been very profitable for various politicians and businesses in the US.
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u/_El_Dragonborn_ Oct 06 '24
This is exactly it. There’s very few places in the Middle East that are even on speaking terms with America. Israel is an extremely important foothold for American interests, which is why it’s so easy for America to ignore the genocide and churn money to Israel.
It isn’t that America controls Israel through money and aid (whether financially or militarily), but that Israel controls America through geopolitical leverage.
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u/awesome-o-2000 Oct 06 '24
They give campaign contributions via political action committees such as AIPAC. I mentioned the money goes to "defense" contractors who then send weapons to Israel. When you think about it, our "defense" companies are just legalized war profiteers who do everything they can to ensure a constant need for their product.
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u/Nycho Oct 06 '24
Fuck politicians sending boys to fight these wars for old fuckers! If your representative has been in office for over 10 years vote that scum bag out. If your representatives and presidents have become multi millionaires on a 200k a year salary then vote them out. They are corrupt, the corporations and countries that own them are getting a huge ROI selling the US tax payers out.
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u/Sandmansam01 Oct 06 '24
$$$
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u/kaskoosek Oct 06 '24
Its control more than dollars.
America has a printing machine that needs control to be functioning fullt.
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u/AlienAle Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24
The reason is that Israel is viewed as a strategic partner to the US.
Israel has for decades shared intel on it's terrorist surveillance to the US government, which it is in a unique position to do due to it's geographic proximity to the groups the US wants intel on. The US government therefore believes that Israels collaboration has stopped terrorism plots against US citizens. Israel is also a major producer of some defense industry technology which US uses, and US and Israel regularly trade and share their weapons systems and military technology.
Historically there have been times when Israel has engaged in conflicts with groups in the region, that have assisted US interests as well, as some of these groups have sided with US adversaries.
Essentially Israel has aligned itself to be a US defense partner, and allows the US to gain access and intel to the region without needing heavy investments or having land troops placed there.
So basically, the US government continues to support Israel due to its perceived strategic value. It is done essentially entirely out of a cold, calculated geopolitical interest.
That is, unfortunately, how basically all geopolitical decisions are actually done, even though there's a lot of talk of "doing the right thing" or whatever buzzwords etc. 99% of the time, nation-states act in ways that they believe will bring strategic value to themselves and in the interest of self. Sometimes it just happens that the "right thing" aligns with the strategic goals (like defeating the Naxi regime during WW2) but a lot of the time, decisions are made just to keep a complex network of strategic partnerships functioning.
Not how I think the world ought to work, as it's depressing. Real people's lives get forever ruined due to political maneuvering. But it appears this type of system isn't going to change anytime soon, instead these networks are likely to begin to be even more tight-knit as global tensions escalate.
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u/Pinata_Econonics Oct 06 '24
A straight-forward, objective assessment - sorry mate you’re on Reddit, this won’t fly. Kudos though
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u/ealker Oct 06 '24
US supports Saudi Arabia and Israel to battle Iran in the region. Simple as that.
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u/CyonHal Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24
The simplest answer is the US wants to privatize the resources into western companies' control like they have with most of the rest of the world (Africa and SA and SE Asia as examples, or more direct example, look at Haiti)
Its why any nation that nationalizes industry to push out western private interests is automatically an enemy of the US, like China or Cuba or Venezeula.
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u/sadsackofstuff Oct 06 '24
Israel is a state that was founded after WW2 with the sole purpose of being a western interest strong point so that Russia and the like don’t capitalize the area because of trade and influence. The American government has never cared about human interests of other countries, hardly its own constituents, so long as their political/financial interests are being served. Israel is a friend that hangs out in ‘enemy’ territory while America sends billions to destabilize countries in the area.
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u/MultifactorialAge Oct 06 '24
Because they have a powerful diaspora presence and lobby within the US government.
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u/Lipziger Oct 06 '24
And you can say that for both sides. (Not talking about the people in the pics, who are in the middle of it)
On one side you have Israel enforcing its power on the region by any means and with all brutality.
On the other side you have Hamas, being the oppressor and abuser of its own population, with all means.
And the civilians are in the middle of it all, while one side can (mostly) protect its civilians, while the other side both can't and just won't. And the ones suffering have everything taken from them, from both sides.
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u/rd-- Oct 06 '24
On the other side you have Hamas, being the oppressor and abuser of its own population, with all means.
The only way people can continue to make this insanely false assertion is the need for SOME thread of justification for why Palestinians lives are worth substantially less than Israeli's. Like they know better than Palestinians how to resist a genocide that's been ongoing long before Hamas ever even existed.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SHARKS Oct 06 '24
You’re just completely wrong about this. It’s totally possible to point out the flaws on BOTH sides and that the victims fall on both sides. Civilians and people forced into military service on both sides suffer while those on top flourish. The sooner you stop blaming your fellow peasants (including myself) and see the people actually behind this, the better. Wake up, “resisting a genocide” is targeting the people committing the genocide, not civilians who have little say in the matter. That statement is intended for atrocities committed by both the IDF and Hamas. I’m anticipating you not reading this and just seething about Jews in the reply so don’t bother if that’s the case.
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u/LiorZim Oct 06 '24
I just don't understand how people can sympathize with radical islamists that raped, killed and burned people alive.
It's a Shane that innocent people suffer, but if the people of Gaza can't get rid of Hamas, Israel has to do it itself.
Many innocent Germans died as a result of the campaign to eradicate Nazism , today not too many people doubt the necessity of going to war against Nazi Germany
The world is not black and white and there is a tremendous complexity to this conflict.
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u/DependentFeature3028 Oct 06 '24
I read somewhere that all of Gaza is now in ruins. Is that true?
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u/Naurgul Oct 06 '24
Latest data indicates that the majority of buildings in Gaza is either damaged or completely destroyed.
https://www.axios.com/2024/10/05/gaza-destruction-map-israel-hamas
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u/pmcall221 Oct 06 '24
I've heard 70% of Gaza residential buildings have been destroyed. I think the USSR had close to 90% destroyed after WWII. Even if the bombing stopped today, the humanitarian crisis would last for years.
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u/pineapplejamm Oct 06 '24
Such an ignorant comment. The majority of Israelis do not support Palestine having their own state, and that was before October 7th. That doesn't mean that Israelis deserved October 7th.
The idea that a whole region that has over 50% of the population as children can be annihilated and blamed on entirely for something they didn't do is bullshit. If you are going to advocate for that idealogy, then you are justifying October 7th...because Hamas also (wrongly) blames all of Israelis for the situation in Palestine.
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u/Naurgul Oct 05 '24
Date: It's a collection of photos throughout the last year. Earliest is 16-10-2023. Latest is 14-6-2024.
Description: Ali Jadallah is a Palestinian photojournalist based in Gaza who has worked for Anadolu Agency since 2012. He has documented the Israel-Gaza war from its beginning in the face of immense challenges. Jadallah has won several international and local awards for his pictures. He has lost four relatives in Israeli attacks on Gaza. He continues to cover the war in the region.
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u/kido3konvict Oct 06 '24
The Holocaust never ended, only the victims changed.
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u/Low-Way557 Oct 06 '24
The victims of the Holocaust weren’t Israelis. Stop conflating Jews with Israel every chance.
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u/charmstrong70 Oct 06 '24
Israel was literally established to house the European Jewish who fled after ww2
Zionism long predates the Holocaust.
Herzl (the founder of Zionism) wasn't even wedded to Palestine as a home for Jews but considered Uganda, Argentina and a host of other places.
The Lovers of Zion, formed in 1884, had the express purpose of encouraging Jewish immigration to Palestine.
Israel was not formed as a reaction to the Holocaust.
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u/2ndChanceCharlie Oct 06 '24
“Next year in Jerusalem” has been part of Jewish liturgy for centuries. Just because there is was political movement called “Zionism” that you can point to and say it was established in the late 1800s as a group looking for a home for Jews, does not negate that almost all Jews are “Zionist” in their belief that Israel is the Jewish homeland of their ancestors and having a Jewish state is important. This is the epitome of cherry picking data to support a claim.
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u/FearTheViking Oct 06 '24
Zionism and the idea of a Jewish ethnostate date back to the 19th century. WW2 created the material conditions Zionists in Europe needed to accelerate their project with backing from the Western Allies. None of Israel's founders and early leaders were Holocaust survivors themselves. They were already active in Zionist movements prior to WW2.
Israel is infamous for weaponizing the Holocaust to justify its settler colonialism and atrocities while treating actual Holocaust survivors like garbage, especially if they dare criticize Israel in any way. In fact, many Holocaust survivors are critical of Israel and see the fascism of nazi Germany reflected in Zionism.
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u/2ndChanceCharlie Oct 06 '24
Ancient Israel being the Jewish homeland did not become a belief only in the 19th century. Jews have wanted to go back to Jerusalem for centuries.
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u/FearTheViking Oct 06 '24
Not as an organized movement and political project. That was very much the invention of early Zionists like Theodor Herzl. Though Palestine ("Eretz Yisrael") was always their focus, they considered other options as well.
E.g. in 1903, during the Sixth Zionist Congress, the British govt offered a portion of British East Africa (now Kenya) as a temporary refuge for Jews facing persecution in Europe. A commission was sent to evaluate the territory, but it was rejected in 1905. Argentina, Libya, Sinai, and even some Anglo-American territories were considered at different times and with varying degrees of seriousness.
Returning to the ancient Jewish homeland was always secondary to the founding of a Jewish ethnostate. Thanks to the backing of Western governments, they got both their wishes regardless.
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u/2ndChanceCharlie Oct 06 '24
I hate this argument. Yes there is a “modern” political movement that looked to make an ideology centuries old into a reality. Doesn’t mean Jews didn’t think about or attempt going back to Israel before the 1880s. It has been a goal since the diaspora.
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u/FearTheViking Oct 06 '24
There's no argument. Just a simple statement of fact. If you read my original comment, you will see that it's not referring to the general idea of Jews returning to their ancient homeland but specifically to the creation of the state of Israel.
Dispersed wishes and attempts among the Jewish diaspora to return did not manifest into a sovereign political entity until Zionism took off as an ideology and movement. The results achieved by previous efforts, tho partially inspiring Zionism, pale in comparison.
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u/Low-Way557 Oct 06 '24
First of all you can say Jews. It’s not a slur. Second of all, the Holocaust survivors are not fighting in Gaza. You’re conflating two different events simply because they’re both Jews. Third of all, Jewish immigration into British Mandate Palestine wasn’t a crime.
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u/Low-Way557 Oct 06 '24
Antisemitism is still a problem separate from Israel. And the victims of the Holocaust weren’t Israelis.
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u/kido3konvict Oct 06 '24
The identity of the aggressors is well known, if you want to associate it with religion then it’s clear who the antisemtic is.
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u/heiisniper Oct 06 '24
Actually no, there is a huge distinction between holocaust and civilians victims in war. Read the definition of that word.. But either way, very sad. The world is going to dark places (with so many wars last years)
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u/isomae Oct 06 '24
I am so sorry. I wish I could do more. I am so so sorry.
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u/Final_Priest Oct 06 '24
You absolutely can. Open your house up for Palestine refugees
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u/ScoutTheRabbit Oct 06 '24
There are essentially no recent Palestinian refugees in the US to open our home up to -- they have no status as refugees and/or they don't have any UN agencies who have the ability to resettle them (UNRWA doesn't have a resettlement mandate and Palestinians are specifically excluded from other UN refugee resettlement programs). I have a friend who is taking trips to Egypt to volunteer as a case worker for people escaping to the country, and there is so so little she can do. My husband works in refugee services in the US trying to help family members of people who are stuck in refugee camps abroad being them over and the lack of refugee status of Palestinians has totally tied his hands. He can help people from essentially any other country than Palestine.
The UN and Egypt in particular have absolutely failed Palestinians. Egypt won't allow them to be called refugees or for a UN refugee office to be established. People who leave Gaza to Egypt become stateless with no ability to legally travel -- and this is passed down to their children and future descendants. There are complicated reasons for this -- for one, Israel insists Palestinians lose their right to return if they leave or become refugees -- but that doesn't make it less horrific for the people experiencing it.
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u/washtubs Oct 06 '24
You are mocking that poster who is just expressing sympathy and powerlessness. Gross.
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u/Final_Priest Oct 07 '24
No, I'm just pointing out that they can do more. Those who claim they want to do more but don't really want to make the effort are mocking the Palestinian lives.
Most supporters would rather do nothing instead of inconveniencing themselves. (Which does make sense, though I think it's silly for them to express that they earnestly wish they can do more when they literally can)
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u/washtubs Oct 07 '24
Bullshit. You're basically doing the "If you care so much about Palestinians, why don't you go to Gaza" bit. In your case it's "If you care so much, why don't you donate your living room". Fuck off. It's just mocking, pointless moral grandstanding and you know it.
It is also totally unrealistic even for someone who is willing to open their home since it takes tons of organization and money to get just a handful of people out to safety.
There are varying levels of advocacy, from donations, to protests, to the absolute heroism of some doctors who volunteer to go there.
If you think Israel's cause is somehow still righteous at this point, no one wants to hear your take about how people should best advocate for Palestinians.
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u/underwatr_cheestrain Oct 06 '24
Ask Jordan how that worked out last time
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u/Dendrobates3 Oct 06 '24
Tell us again how you failed turing test?
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u/underwatr_cheestrain Oct 06 '24
Enjoy opening up your house to a genocidal Islamist zombie death cult
Maybe you can share with them some of those paint chips you seem to be eating 🫶
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u/Disastrous-Olive-218 Oct 06 '24
I guess don’t worry about the many times Israel has been attacked by its neighbours, the thousands of thousands of rocket attacks or terrorist attacks, or the hand of Iran and its proxies in stoking the violence
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u/Maoam626 Oct 06 '24
Those pictures hit me really hard… the world suffers from a big lack of humanity. Humanity should oversee color, Language origins an move together.
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u/Darbzen Oct 06 '24
Textbook genocide, but we will be ignoring fact because power can manipulate facts.
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u/Funtycuck Oct 06 '24
Israel in the last year killed more children than all wars globally did in the preceding 5 years (it might be 3) its fucking insane that the big Western players all support this ethnic cleansing.
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u/jonathanwhites Oct 06 '24
The pain and suffering visible here breaks you up. What have we come to as humanity? After all our developments, we still inflict such horrors upon each other. Have we learnt nothing?
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u/_-BomBs-_ Oct 06 '24
Israel let October 7th attack happen, so they could wage war on the Palestinians.
How is it that Israel knows where every enemy leader and commander is, but somehow didn't know Hamas was going to attack them, and why was the border not protected and some places on the border had no soldiers.
Israel lost a few souls and decided to murder a whole nation and cover it up with propaganda. They are so sophisticated that they can kill people with a pager bomb, but not sophisticated enough to avoid killing a lot of innocent people with smart bombs.
We can literally see that Israel is a walking, talking war crime. And has completely lost its humanity.
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u/BeastVader Oct 06 '24
It goes even deeper than that when you realuse Hamas doesn't even exist, it's just part of the propaganda arm of Israel.
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u/_-BomBs-_ Oct 06 '24
What facts, I only see propaganda. You guys act like Israel has treated the Palestinians well before oktober 7th, and Hamas ruined the loving treatment Gaza and the west bank was getting from Israel. Gaza is and always has been a prison and the west bank a colony which Israel could do as it please.
They censor their cruelty and do everything in their power to divide the Palestinian people.
I think Hamas and hezbollah are all evil and should be destroyed, but Israel also needs a wake-up call for its efforts in making the situation worse.
Get out here with this random ridiculous number, 40.000 is probably what Israel killed in the first three months. The death toll is possibly much higher since no food, safe water, and lack of sanitation are wrecking havoc on what's left of Gazas population.
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u/_-BomBs-_ Oct 06 '24
This is a fight between two cultures. One of them lost their homes and land they have lived on for 1000s of years. The other was given someone else's land by Europeans and have since murdered and dehumanized the population of the other culture living there.
Now we have total war. Where one side have advance technology and the other guerilla tactics.
Both cruel and evil. And no one will ever be able to stop this. One side must die. Israel has apparently realized this, hence the neverending war.
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u/Final_Priest Oct 06 '24
First of all, I'm on neither side because I believe it's nuanced.
I'd like to check with some of your points.
Israel let October 7th attack happen, so they could wage war on the Palestinians.
Speculation. (Should say: I think...)
How is it that Israel knows where every enemy leader and commander is, but somehow didn't know Hamas was going to attack them, and why was the border not protected and some places on the border had no soldiers.
I think it's possible for Israel to have intel fails and some of its guards down prior to Oct 7. After Oct 7, I think it's reasonable that Israel gained significant resources e.g. US intelligence support. I think it wouldn't be strange to say that Oct 7 turned some folks e.g. one or two Hamas supporters.
Israel lost a few souls and decided to murder a whole nation and cover it up with propaganda.
I think 1,000 is a very significant number of deaths by a targeted attack in a developed country. I would expect massive retaliation from any other developed countries if it happened to them. See 9/11 - the retaliation was astronomical.
They are so sophisticated that they can kill people with a pager bomb, but not sophisticated enough to avoid killing a lot of innocent people with smart bombs.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. I think given what we know about the human cost of war, the pager bomb was an extremely accurate attack compared to other attacks by Israel. Maybe I need to research more onto this.
We can literally see that Israel is a walking, talking war crime. And has completely lost its humanity.
I agree but I'd say that includes other groups too.
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u/Morty_104 Oct 06 '24
I can't stop being absolutely amazed by human achievements and at the same time beeing so dissapointed that we as a species can't stop killing each others for borders and ideologies. Can't we just fucking leave everybody alone doing their shit and tolerate each others if nobody is beeing hurt by same borders and ideologies?
A nooo... money and legacy, that's what the powerful want. Fuck you all!
Fuck that man, we could already have reached mars if we really had overcome our animal state.
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u/medicmaniac25 Oct 06 '24
Absolutely Tragic but the irony of the baby in the 4th last picture wearing a shirt of captain America covered in blood from American bombs and equipment is really something....
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u/cronixi4 Oct 06 '24
When the rich wage war, it is the poor who dies.
So manny innocent people that are trapped in the middle of all this while some rich assholes are pulling the strings in safe locations far from the bloodshed.
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u/Grown_Azzz_Kid Oct 06 '24
You get what you put out in the world. Because of that Israel will never know peace. At least not until they decide they want peace in the world.
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u/Grown_Azzz_Kid Oct 06 '24
Hasn’t Israel murdered 10s of thousands of Palestinians over the last 50+ years. Not to include the general oppression and other human rights violations?
You’re uneducated or myopic… I’ll let you decide.
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u/cerealOverdrive Oct 06 '24
It’s times like these that words fail me. Looking at my own children I can’t understand how anyone God, man, women, or undecided could justify these deaths? How is it that the ends can justify the means?
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u/Interesting_Demand44 Oct 06 '24
Anyone else think it’s ironic/sad that the child is wearing a Captain America shirt
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u/Garfunkle0707 Oct 06 '24
October 7th didn't happen in a vacuum. It happened because most if not all of the members of Hamas witnessed events identical to these ones. Israel can try and pretend that the reason the rest of the middle east hates them is due to antisemitism but deep down I think they know its because of their attacks on innocent people.
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u/Im_Sandro Oct 06 '24
Jesus, how do you even recover from this, like buildings can be restored, but just looking at pic 4 & 5, experiencing that 24/7. I have no words, poor innocent civilians.. shame on the ppl doing this shit and targeting civilians like this..
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u/BobLoblawsLawBlogs5 Oct 07 '24
Absolutely heartbreaking. Makes me want to cry seeing what people are having to live through day to day. It’s like a nightmare
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u/Various-Force-2741 Oct 07 '24
And yet the deafening silence gets too aching with arrant hypocrisy shrouded in selective justice. This genocide unmasks how frail and fragile our sense of civility has stooped to become. The pain, trauma and suffering far exceeds a tremendous toll to know what future awaits for generations to come as this world is all but a delusional facade.
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Oct 06 '24
Isreal knew all this coming they just waited. I mean, how come mousad didn't know about hezboulah attacks. If you ask me, i say they weren't surprised
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u/FredNieman Oct 06 '24
Soul crushing. It is truly mind boggling how so many people can ignore this and support Israel. I hope to see Israel fall in my lifetime
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u/RobertRoyal82 Oct 06 '24
Omg. I how dare you show photo evidence of Israel's crimes. That is anti semitism
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u/AffectLeast4254 Oct 06 '24
Israel has murdered more than 16,000 children since oct 7, depending on your source.
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u/Several-Anteater-345 Oct 06 '24
Nah, Just posts pictures of the victims of those who’s previous generations were also victims in Holocaust.
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