r/InternationalNews • u/Reddit_Sucks_1401 • Sep 29 '24
Opinion/Analysis How Israel has been aiding the world's genocides - for decades
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u/Ancient-Watch-1191 Sep 29 '24
Israel is a criminal organization, not a country. As such it does not have a history, just an extensive criminal record. The walls have come crashing down and now all sorts of old Israeli crimes are being spotlighted. It's long overdue.
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u/GillaMomsStarterPack Sep 29 '24
This comment will be embedded upon the history what is Israel. A complete Terroristic Nation backed by other fascist nations like the United States. I’m from the US, this is embarrassing.
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u/BlueMeteor20 Sep 29 '24
They have also transferred "supplies" to separatist groups in South Sudan, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and the groups in SYR that were.... well you can take a wild guess.
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u/augustusalpha Sep 29 '24
"IDF, the most moral Genocidal military, not for DEFENSE, but killing Muslims GLOBALLY, not just in PALESTINE."
-- Call Secretary of Defense, Pentagon, United States of AmeriKKKa for the latest quotation.
"How many Muslims do you want to kill today?"
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u/stating_facts_only Sep 29 '24
India is Israel’s largest weapons customer. Not surprising considering how rndia commits genocide against Kashmiris who are also Muslims.
There definitely is a pattern here.
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u/bolshoybooze Sep 29 '24
India has largest happily living and thriving mislim population in the world. Get ur facts right.
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u/Reddit_Sucks_1401 Sep 29 '24 edited Sep 29 '24
Wrong and wrong. They're being persecuted and abused due to rising Hindu nationalism, and Indonesia has the largest Muslim populace
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u/diikxnt Sep 29 '24
You're absolutely right, Google 'Godhra riots'. You will see a completely different side of India as opposed to what is portrayed in the media.
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u/bolshoybooze Sep 29 '24
So why did your people burn down karsevaks in train and numerous bomb blasts.. still u guys have grown most
Why lie bcoz u r incompetent
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u/diikxnt Sep 29 '24
Bro I didn't burn any "train" and I didn't participate in any "bomb blasts" , what are you talking about 😭. Why do you want to conflate all Muslims in India with the group who did the train burning and bomb blasts ? Why do you want to generalize? . Your tribalistic bro who believes that ALL groups in the world think the same , act the same and talk the same.
Do you think that every Jewish person supports Israel? There are MANY jews and I mean MANY jews who don't support Israel and are pro-Palestine. According to your thoughts every Jew is part of a hivemind who supports Israel and that's where you are wrong . Just because the religion of an extremist group is similar to someone doesn't mean that person supports that group . People are individuals and have individual thoughts/feelings/actions and most importantly a different identity . You are just generalising everyone which is incorrect , I can't change your mind on that👍🏻
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u/passporttohell Ireland Sep 30 '24
There is someone who needs to get their facts straight about India and it's you.
Sit down, do some research about Hindu oppression of Muslims and Sikhs and India and pipe down.
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u/_Snebb_ Sep 29 '24
You don't even need to look historically. This month, an Israeli pleaded guilty to supplying avionics, purchased from the US, directly to Russia despite US-led sanctions. Enabling it to continue its invasion of Ukraine.
Of course, you won't hear about this in Western media.
The 'closest ally'of the US making an absolute mockery of the US.
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u/Audenond Sep 30 '24
There are plenty of legit arguments against Israel's actions but blaming a country for the actions of an individual is extremely disingenuous.
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u/Otherwise_Bobcat_819 Sep 29 '24
It’s so interesting that Israel has also been arming other genocidal and dictatorial regimes. I remember reading in November 2023 Hasbara writing Reddit comments that people, who didn’t care about the Hutu’s genocide of the Tutsi, shouldn’t care about the Palestinians. Now I learn that Israelis were actively involved in helping the Hutu kill the Tutsi. I guess at this point I shouldn’t be surprised, but I am still shockingly disgusted.
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u/I_Need_Citations Sep 29 '24
They are also closely aligned with the BJP, the party that is involved in mass murder of Muslims in India.
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u/BalsamicBasil Sep 29 '24
Unsurprising, considering America's record of doing the same. Birds of an imperialist, genocidal feather flock together.
I believe US has long been aware of Israel's unsavory weapons deals to genocidal and tyrannical regimes - sometimes the US sends weapons to the same regimes, sometimes it keeps it's hands clean of certain conflicts and just supports Israel's actions.
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u/BeingJoeBu Sep 29 '24
Israel is nothing more than a US attack dog. It goes off leash, and the US just shrugs and says the other country must have upset it.
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u/Far-Hat7563 Sep 30 '24
Israel is a terrorist state. Even if it had humanitarian rights restrictions, they will find a way around it just like the US doing now.
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u/Ok-Replacement9595 Sep 29 '24
I wonder what role they played in China's repression of the Uyghar people's.
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u/NebulousNitrate Sep 29 '24
Israel is going to be in for a big surprise when Turkey launches strikes on it in a little less than 2 weeks.
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u/Ancient-Watch-1191 Sep 29 '24
Erdogan is complicit in the mass murder perpetrated by Israel, not openly like the Imperial West, just more in a concealed way.
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u/613TheEvil Sep 29 '24
That's just absurd, for so many reasons, it's not happening.
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u/NebulousNitrate Oct 01 '24
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u/objectiveoutlier Sep 29 '24
You know the cope levels are at record highs when the new fantasy involves a NATO country attacking Israel 🤣
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u/brainking111 Sep 29 '24
I wish it was true, it would probably fix two problems at the same time getting rid of two dictators who are somehow in NATO.
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u/Digity_Du Sep 29 '24
Why all IR science / News Subreddits / other stuff like that are dedicated only to Israel???
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u/Omega949 Sep 30 '24
Three triangle that equal 3 above and three triangle below, that equal 3. Add it up 333+333= some controversial number that starts with 6 and ends with 6 or something
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u/PickleMortyCoDm Sep 29 '24
Wow, this is a theory and a half
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u/Ancient-Watch-1191 Sep 29 '24
Meaning?
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u/PickleMortyCoDm Sep 29 '24 edited Sep 29 '24
Oh, as in Israel are behind the supply of weapons to a lot of conflicts around the world. It is something I didn't know but I can believe. I am interested to see how much was sanctioned by government and how much is down to corporate entities. I can believe they really don't ask questions when it comes to supplying weapons to people... What I would want to know are they specifically supplying weapons to groups fighting against Muslims?
Maybe that is a blunt question. I just want to know I'd this a very deliberate move or is this more just careless business
I can see why my comment got downvoted, but most of the time I am just commenting so I can find a post again later 😅 I try to save stuff, but most of the stuff I saved doesn't get added to my save section on Reddit.
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u/Ancient-Watch-1191 Sep 29 '24
"I am interested to see how much was sanctioned by government and how much is down to corporate entities."
It's a bit naive to think that (parts of) weapon systems can be exported without explicit government approval (this is not only for Israel the case, it's a ground rule for every weapon exporting country).
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u/PickleMortyCoDm Sep 29 '24
Well that's what I am asking. You may consider it naive because of the norms that are applied to every other country that supplies weapons. Israel is that one country that doesn't have to adhere to the same rules we do.
Which is why I am going back to basics and asking, do weapons manufacturers actually need their government's approval to supply to people?
I would look it up, but I am just chilling and scrolling. Sometimes me asking a question isn't because i think the answer is obvious. The video implies that Israel turns a massive blind eye to who is getting the weapons which makes me ask does their government even care or really monitor who is buying what?
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u/Ancient-Watch-1191 Sep 29 '24
No, it's naive to think that requiring government approval isn't a basic (ground) rule for all weapon exporting countries (Israel is no exception here).
PS Don't take this personal, it's not meant to be.
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u/PickleMortyCoDm Sep 29 '24
On a side note, I came across this and I think it would be interesting to follow up next month
https://www.bindmans.com/knowledge-hub/news/high-court-sets-date-for-hearing-of-israel-weapons-judicial-review-and-grants-permission-for-amnesty-international-human-rights-watch-and-oxfam-to-intervene/5
u/Ancient-Watch-1191 Sep 29 '24
Indeed, this is important. But again, you are singling out Israel for no justifiable reason. Non transparent (hidden or semi hidden) weapons traffic is part of (almost?) every weapons exporting country foreign policy portfolio in the world. With the US (as usual) claiming the top position.
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u/PickleMortyCoDm Sep 29 '24
I am not singling them out... I am merely a mortal human and only have the attention span to research and look into one country at a time XD This is a post about Israeli weapons being supplied to other nations. To say it is unjustified to look into just one country is a bit... strange. I can look into more and likely will, but what is unjustified about looking into Israeli arms exports in a post about Israeli arms exports?
If you would like to make one about the US I would be interested to follow that too. But for now, this is what I am looking at since this is what the post is about. I am sure many nations have a level of this, but the video does make a really good point of highlighting that the rules that apply to most nations seem to no apply to Israel and further research is needed. It is easy to see that a lot of their weapons are unaccounted for or not documented or simply not available for public viewing. I, personally, find that strange which is why I asked the questions I have because the answers are not there.
Their licensing exports records for weapons is something that is oddly absent when you take into account how much they are producing vs how much they are telling you about. Considering we are looking at around $13.1 billion from last year, I would hope their would be adequate documentation and transparency... but there isnt
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u/Ancient-Watch-1191 Sep 29 '24
"Their licensing exports records for weapons is something that is oddly absent when you take into account how much they are producing vs how much they are telling you about. Considering we are looking at around $13.1 billion from last year, I would hope their would be adequate documentation and transparency... but there isnt"
Well, this is because Israel isn't some geopolitical neophyte, it's subsequent governments have been successfully operating to carve out the single best possible outcome for themselves for over 75 year now. Hidden weapons contracts are evidently part of the policies to achieve this goal.
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u/PickleMortyCoDm Sep 29 '24
Well, it's still something that is unanswered 😅 it is standard for most countries to give government approval and in most circumstances I would feel dumb asking this.
The reason I ask is because there is usually a level of transparency with who is buying what... As we both can agree there does not appear to be that level of transparency with Israel. It gives me the feeling that there is a mafia-like back door operation going on which doesn't get documented by government officially. Think about it: if the government "doesn't know" about some dealings and there is no record of it within their circle, they have perfect plausible deniability.
They are incredibly militaristic but I think it is naive to think they operate the same way we do. They do not have to go by the same rules as us.
In international relations, governments deal with other governments. As long as something is kept out of the official "Israeli government" then they can always shrug and say "I don't know how they got those weapons" and then pretend to scald their arms manufactures.
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u/Ancient-Watch-1191 Sep 29 '24
I sincerely do not understand why you are singling out Israel is this matter. When I stated that this is the ground rule for all weapon exporting countries, than that signifies two things: it is a ground rule (common sense politics) and it applies to every (sovereign) country. Also a rule sort of implies that there maybe exceptions against it, but those exceptions are still determined (framed) by the government. The same goes for breaking the rule: governments decide how (and if) the companies that break the rule are sanctioned.
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u/PickleMortyCoDm Sep 29 '24
Because I looked it up, there is so little information about who and what they supply arms to. We can account for about 55% of where their weapons are going (India, Philippines and USA) but the rest is drawing no conclusion.
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/defense/1710152690-israel-remains-in-top-10-arms-exporters-despite-sales-drop
https://truthout.org/articles/israels-arms-exports-hit-record-of-13b-in-2023-amid-gaza-genocide/It is very suspicious is what I am getting at. It is odd that they require exporting licenses for weapons but they are not showing where nearly half of them are going
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u/Ancient-Watch-1191 Sep 29 '24
"It is very suspicious is what I am getting at. It is odd that they require exporting licenses for weapons but they are not showing where nearly half of them are going"
No it is not suspicious, it is very sensible to not overtly show the world what you're foreign policy goals are and how you are trying to achieve these foreign policy goals.
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