r/InternationalNews • u/ReyhanSerdar • Aug 15 '24
Ukraine/Russia Russian forces dig trenches near Kursk nuclear plant as Ukrainian troops advance, BBC reports
https://kyivindependent.com/russian-forces-dig-trenches-near-kursk-nuclear-plant-as-ukrainian-troops-advance-bbc-reports/3
Aug 15 '24 edited Aug 15 '24
This is insanity. It is a suicide mission and it is headed for a nuclear power plant? How does anyone think this isn’t very bad ?
Americans cheering this on; please use your brain and think about how nuclear power plants being sites for battles is really bad for everyone not just Putin.
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u/S_T_P European Union Aug 15 '24
This is insanity. It is a suicide mission and it is headed for a nuclear power plant? How does anyone think this isn’t very bad ?
Echochambers.
Also, despite constantly talking about FAFO, Americans hadn't really gotten enough Find Outs to comprehend that it applies to them as well. Especially, when their Fuck Arounds happens in faraway locations, such as Ukraine.
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Aug 15 '24
agreed. I think most Americans are completely incapable of imagining themselves at the wrong end of a war on their home that they can’t med evac out of and their media lets them treat it like a video game or an action movie instead of probably the worst thing that can ever happen to a person
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u/goonsquad4357 Aug 16 '24
How about Europeans tell Ukraine to calm down too. The US wasn’t even consulted on this operation buddy
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Aug 16 '24
I agree. They both should. EU is US’s lap dog and they are just as blood crazy. It is insane. They are sending a suicide mission to try and take and hold vulnerable reactor inside of Russia to fight from within. There is apparently already evidence of debris landing in the plant. This is insanity.
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u/nl4real1 United States Aug 15 '24
I don't remember there being a a meltdown when Russian troops occupied Ukrainian plants, what's the difference? Not trying to start shit, genuinely asking.
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Aug 15 '24
The article briefly mentioned IAEA but there was a fire a week ago at a plant in the Russian occupied area of Ukraine. Russia said it was a Ukrainian drone. Russias says Ukraine has been shelling the power plant from across the bank. Ukraine said it was a Russian false flag to blackmail Kyiv or make them look bad and it hasn’t shelled the plant but that Russia is keeping heavy arms there.
IAEA said there was no evidence of any drone strike and that there was melted plastic so it seems like it was just an accident but also said both Russia and Ukraine need to stop fucking around around the nuclear power plants and the different ways it could cause a catastrophic melt down.
This nuclear power plant in Kursk is particularly alarming because it’s apparently much much more vulnerable and does not have the safe guards the one in Ukraine does and apparently there is evidence of fragments of downed missiles inside the grounds of this more vulnerable nuclear power plant which indicates that Ukraine has actually targeted it already.
Here is a report from Bellona, an environmental ngo that works in Ukraine, on this issue : bellona
So it seems like Ukraine wants to capture this plant and use that as a base to arm the way Russia did the one in Ukraine because then they can’t be removed without blowing up the whole plant. Russia is now preparing to defend the plant.
The other more worrying thing about the plant within Russia is that the Ukrainian battalion inside Russia is basically on a suicide mission.
Nuclear power plants are not like hospitals or schools or other civilian infrastructure where you are not supposed to attack or base out of them because of ethics and international law because they are nuclear power plants. This is about to be a catastrophe.
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u/Battlefire Aug 15 '24
Calm your tit's. That plant has been off for awhile.
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Aug 16 '24
No, it’s not. Did you check this or did you read a half baked Reddit comment? Because 2 units are still active. And the 2 new replacement units for the units that were shut down are far enough into the process of being commissioned that one has already been loaded up with fuel. The construction of the Kursk plant makes it MUCH more vulnerable to anything that hits it from above accidentally.
^ that one includes links directly to IAEA statements and analysis of Kursk reactor risks
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u/Battlefire Aug 16 '24 edited Aug 16 '24
The engineers there literally said all of the reactors are off cold. Have been before the war. Again. Calm you tits. Anyways, Ukrainians are bringing the war Russians sbatch to their homes. And they've done that shit with the plants in Ukraine. Payback is a bitch.
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Aug 16 '24 edited Aug 16 '24
Read the link. You are literally wrong. And yes it’s bad when Russia did it to. You can’t just do “pay back” with fucking Nuclear Reactors because they are NUCLEAR REACTORS.
This one is even riskier because it is a mechanised batillion going towards an even more vulnerable reactor and it is going to be a literal central battle site. There has already been evidence of artillery shells within the grounds of the plant by the reactors.
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u/Battlefire Aug 16 '24
I did. I'll take words from the actual people in charge. And again, overall irrelevant considering Russia held one hostage in Ukraine. I'll say, Ukraine go for it. Burn the Russians.
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Aug 16 '24
So you’re saying is you, Battlefire the Reddit user, know more about the function and risks of the Kursk nuclear power plant than nuclear scientists and the IAEA - the body who’s job it is to know about the reactors and who has access to investigate them - and that they are wrong and you are right? And as a nuclear expert your opinion is also “lol burn them”?
You should go workshop your propaganda more. And try and at least ctrl f keywords in future before you pretend you read an article
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u/Battlefire Aug 16 '24
What I'm saying, karma can be bitch. Russia needs to lay in the bed they made.
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Aug 16 '24
If it’s no big deal why don’t you go volunteer ? They need people. Go fuck around at the nuclear power plant. Fuck everyone who’s down wind. Any consequences from blowing up a nuclear reactor will magically miss Ukraine completely apparently.
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u/Battlefire Aug 16 '24
I would love to volunteer to fight against Russsian imperialism. Join the Ukrainian freedom fighters. Kill some orcs. But I don't think they want someone disabled.
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u/Jedi_Lazlo Aug 15 '24
American taxpayer here.
It's clear that we should have given Ukranians these weapons platforms and munitions over a year and 100,000 Ukrainian casualties ago.
We should expand operations in each of our states manufacturing weapons platforms, munitions, and vehicles and create a bunch of good American jobs in the process.
We need a new Lend / Lease Act for Ukraine that gives them the tools they need to end Russian aggression or collapse the Russian economy in the process like Afghanistan did.
Ukrainians are fighting for freedom and self-determination.
Nothing is more American in ideal than that.
And that used to be enough for us to be all in to go join the fight.
That time has come again.
Slava Ukrani. Freedom isn't free.
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Aug 15 '24
Americans when they LARP Reddit GI Joe from the comfort of the Walmart parking lot in their truck with kfc grease coating their fingers typing about war in Europe and a nuclear super power as if it’s a video game are a joke. You should be fighting for your taxes to go to a functioning health care system instead of NATO.
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u/SpinningHead Aug 15 '24
Is Putin great leader or greatest leader?
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Aug 15 '24
Neither he’s an insane piece of shit blood thirsty war monger just like Biden and Europe is being fucked by both. And Americans think it’s team sports. Americans need to wake up from the red scare mccarthyist brain rot because the rest of the world has to deal with the consequences while you act like you’re in an action spy movie seeing Ruskis everywhere.
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u/SpinningHead Aug 15 '24
Not a spy movie and we are seeing Russkies in Ukraine and threatening democratic Europe. We saw what happened when people like you called for appeasement.
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Aug 15 '24 edited Aug 15 '24
You didn’t see anything, you are in Colorado. You know nuclear power plants being the site of a battle is bad for people who aren’t just Putin right? You know that a nuclear plant in Russia going up affects everywhere down wind ? Do you think this will be fun like a fallout game ? Do you remember what happened to Ukraine last time there was a big nuclear power plant accident?
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u/SpinningHead Aug 15 '24
You didn’t see anything, you are in Colorado.
Oh, so Russia didnt invade their neighbor and threaten others while stealing their children? Weird that the "peace" you are promoting is for all of Ukraines allies to just let Putin take whatever he wants. You guys arent fooling anyone.
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Aug 15 '24
If you think that turning a nuclear power plant into a battle ground to own Putin is such a good idea why don’t you go there instead of LARPing as a spy Hunter on Reddit? This isn’t like Gaza. You can go there. The Ukrainian army has a huge shortage of men so they would be happy to take you. That would really show me and my boss, Putin, who pays me to say Russian propaganda like “maybe sending strikers towards a nuclear power plant could be bad”
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u/SpinningHead Aug 15 '24
So anyone who doesnt want to go fight to defend someone elses country should not be willing to send aid to that country to fight off a brutal dictator who invaded them. Hot take. Lets see how your approach moves the West.
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Aug 15 '24
So when it’s Europeans down wind from a nuclear power plant you’re braying for blood but when it’s you suddenly you don’t want to defend someone else’s country? Thanks for clearing that up.
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u/NewTangClanOfficial Aug 15 '24
It's like you're just copying off a script. "Freedom isn't free" lmfao
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u/Jedi_Lazlo Aug 16 '24 edited Aug 17 '24
A man without a creed isn't a man.
A man who is unschooled laughs at wisdom and calls it cleverness.
You have shown signs of both flaws. Your technique is weak.
EDIT: For the coward below
You sound like an ignorant bitch.
Fuck Russia.
Fuck you.
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