r/InternationalNews • u/Horus_walking • Aug 07 '24
International U.S. and British Ambassadors to Skip Peace Ceremony in Japan Over Israel’s Omission
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/07/world/asia/nagasaki-ceremony-japan-israel-us-ambassador.html?smid=nytcore-android-share395
u/Reddit_Sucks_1401 Aug 07 '24 edited Aug 07 '24
The jokes write themselves don't they? A ceremony about peace, where the US and British ambassadors throw a tantrum about their ally, who is currently committing a genocide being disinvited
Edit: seems all of the G7, except Japan ofc, may not attend. Sending a very clear message here...
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u/mkbilli Aug 07 '24
G7 = western economic hegemony and Imperialism.
Prove me wrong.
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u/mkbilli Aug 07 '24
Your comment is so full of bias, assumptions and racism I don't even know where to start....
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u/MossyMazzi Aug 07 '24
You’re so off it’s fuckin crazy. Cars are a net negative right now. America is the only 90-95% car dependent country in the world. The next highest are some EU countries with 40-50%. We have no public transportation. We have almost 0 social safety nets. We have huge economic disparity.
Japan and China have full hyper speed rail that connects the distances equivalent to NY <-> CA. Japan has the best earthquake infrastructure in the world, and has some of the best costs of living in terms of food and health.
We have no universal healthcare, and impose imperialism everywhere. You can say what you want about being rich, but we also have record numbers of homeless, record-high gun violence per capita, and we didn’t even win a single shooting competition to countries WITHOUT guns.
I’m terms of foreign policy, we are one of the most destructive countries on earth by a long shot. So yeah, considering we are in international news rn, you should probably learn more about our international effect.
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u/Reddit_Sucks_1401 Aug 07 '24 edited Aug 07 '24
Interesting. You're aware that the examples you used, both India and Bangladesh were colonized and stripped of their natural resources by the British? Member state of the G7?
India and Bangladesh were victims of British colonization for a staggering two centuries. During that rule, the Brits stole around $45 trillion from India and I'm sure quite a bit from Bangladesh too.
So to come on here and have the nerve to say "countries like ours", when its precisely countries like yours that wreak global havoc, is rich (pun intended)
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u/mwa12345 Aug 08 '24
Until 1947, areas that are now India, Bangladesh and Pakistan were under British rule (direct/indirect).
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u/bingo_bango_zongo Aug 08 '24
What makes you think those things require Americans? Moreover, why would America need to commit attrocities across the world in order for those things to exist? And how do we know the world wouldn't have progressed more in the social and technological spheres without America and other European colonial empires destroying the rest of the world, enslaving, ethnically cleansing and genociding their populations and draining their resources?
And lastly, America looks like a bunch of strip malls and parking lots paved over what were once beautiful landscapes. I'll take the untouched version of America any day of the week.
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u/MoonSentinel95 Aug 08 '24
My dude, African, middle eastern and eastern civlizations were way ahead of the land of the whites when it comes to innovation, science and the like.
As Lowkey pointed out in the songs, people in the middle East were studying stars when Britain was just a swampland with no civlization.
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u/mwa12345 Aug 08 '24
Yes. When Russia 2as dropped ..the 2est didn't have a problem. Russia was dropped because of the Ukraine invasion. Fair enough - though they actually were one of the reasons the Japanese surrendered.
Disinvite the regime conducting a campaign that Hague considers genocidal (and several human rights organizations) - they get "concerned".
It is almost as though the US and UK are colonies that are allowed to have only one master. Japan has been an ally - longer than even Ukraine.
But this definitely is meant to send a signal- there are allies and there are masters.
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u/GeshtiannaSG Singapore Aug 09 '24
The same G7 that is going around drumming up support for the Ukraine War, because the rest of the world has decided to ignore them due to double standards.
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u/Spirited-Reputation6 Aug 07 '24
I think they call it an “extermination”. It’s absolutely disgusting.
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u/Horus_walking Aug 07 '24
The U.S. and British ambassadors to Japan said on Wednesday they would not attend Nagasaki’s annual peace memorial ceremony this week, which marks the day the United States dropped an atomic bomb on the city, because Israel had not been invited.
Among the invitees to the ceremony on Aug. 9, the 79th anniversary of the atomic bomb attack that laid waste to the city, were dignitaries from more than 150 countries and territories. Since 2022, Russia and Belarus have been left off the list because of their invasion of Ukraine.
This year, Israel was omitted as well. The American and British ambassadors said the Nagasaki mayor’s decision not to invite Israel wrongly equated the country’s war against Hamas in Gaza with Russia and Belarus’s actions.
“Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and Israel’s self-defense is not morally equivalent,” Rahm Emanuel, the U.S. ambassador to Japan, said in an emailed statement.
Nagasaki’s mayor, Shiro Suzuki, announced his decision last week, saying it was out of concern over security risks and potential disruption.
The move was “not based on political judgment but an intention to conduct the ceremony to console the atomic bomb victims in a peaceful and solemn manner,” Mr. Suzuki said in a news conference.
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u/1-Ohm Aug 07 '24
Israel, the secret nuclear power. One of the 4 non-signatories of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Four countries that should never be invited to the Nagasaki event.
The USA is Israel's puppet.
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u/ruffvoyaging Aug 07 '24
Good. They have signalled their solidarity in supporting genocide. The ceremony will be a lot more peaceful without them.
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u/Archarchery Aug 07 '24
It’s sad how we’re sacrificing our own international standing in order to defend an apartheid state.
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u/Dai_Kaisho Aug 07 '24
In Imperialism Lenin talks about the division of world being complete, and re-partition is guaranteed under capitalism. The borders aren't being redrawn like in the past generation, but still every division is exploited to secure natural resources.
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u/Archarchery Aug 07 '24
Fuck Lenin though, he was a dictator, and set the stage for Stalin to take over and kill millions of his own people.
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u/MossyMazzi Aug 07 '24
Lenin was one of the most influential political philosophers, ignoring those who superseded him, tons of places still work with his ideas in policy.
Cuba has survived almost 100 years of full embargo held in place by the strongest imperialist force in the world (US), and innovated in some of the highest degrees in Medicine and Agriculture since.
Australia is filled with policy that was taken directly from these ideas, and both AU and Cuba hold some of the highest levels of happiness in the world.
Plenty of eastern Asian countries have taken these policies and survived being wiped from the map during the proxy wars and modern invasions since.
Say what you want, but if you haven’t read up on his influence, I don’t think you can knock someone who was more influential worldwide on strictly ideology than a single US president… probably ever
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u/Juonmydog Aug 08 '24
They might be talking about the whole secret police thing.
Edit: stroke apparently? I put a" Z" instead of a period.
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u/mwa12345 Aug 08 '24
NkVD? Cheka? Not to absolve Lenin...but am trying to remember who actually led it . Brutal people...including the ones that killed the tzar and his family and millions of others.
One of the reasons the rest of the world was really scared of communists after WW1 and even supported people like Hitler to keep communists at bay - was the treatment by NKVD etc of everyone considered "not supportive". At one stage , some of these organizations had a fair amount of people if Jewish origin. Hitler advertised this a lot by calling communists 'judeoBolsheviks", iirc
Was it Beria who headed it under Stalin.
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u/Juonmydog Aug 08 '24
Cheka, I believe but I am American but I may be ignorant. He was the head of it unfortunately, and he yearned for chaos in Russia. Much like the far-left and right, and people think I'm radical... we need some form of structure.
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u/Archarchery Aug 08 '24
He still made himself dictator of Russia, setting the stage for later dictators. He started the gulag system for political dissidents. If you want to know where communism “went wrong,” look at Lenin.
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u/MossyMazzi Aug 08 '24
Why are you just lying?
(1) “Democratic debate was Bolshevik practice, even after Lenin banned factions among the Party in 1921. Despite being a guiding political influence, Lenin did not exercise absolute power and continually debated to have his points of view accepted as a course of revolutionary action.”
(1A) Wasn’t a true dictator.
(2)”The Gulag was a system of forced labor camps established during Joseph Stalin’s reign as dictator of the Soviet Union. The notorious prisons, which incarcerated about 18 million people throughout their history, operated from the 1920s until shortly after Stalin’s death in 1953.”
(2A) He wasn’t even around when Stalin started the Gulag system. If you want to know where communism went wrong, it started with Stalin.
Ffs those were the easiest questions to research and ask the internet. At least look shit up before you spout.
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u/Dai_Kaisho Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24
Attributing the rise of Stalin to Lenin is flat wrong. Conflating communism with Stalinism is basically what is taught in most schools, though. So, I get it. A couple points that help distinguish the internationalist workers state that Lenin and the Bolsheviks built- from the opportunistic and undemocratic legacy of Stalin.
Within 5 years of overthrowing the Tsar, the Bolshevik government had legalized divorce and abortion and decriminalized homosexuality. Soviets (workers councils) formed the backbone of community decision making. Stalin undid those reforms. Lenin decried the socialists of Europe lining up for WWI behind their bourgeois national governments, and the Bolsheviks withdrew from that war after taking power.
Lenin expressly fought for the rights of self-determination of the subject nationalities of the old Russian empire - voluntary federation as the basis for international socialist revolution. Stalin on the other hand, famously entered into a pact with Hitler, and sabotaged Chinese and Vietnamese revolutionaries, as well as Spanish antifascists resisting Franco.
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u/KhanTheGray Aug 08 '24
In all fairness Stalin was never meant to rise to power, Lenin didn’t want him. He murdered and terrorized his way up.
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u/mwa12345 Aug 08 '24
Haha. Like the others were not murderers.
Stalin was ruthless - but good at cultivating people /allies until it was their turn
But the others like Beria , Trotsky were no shrinking violets
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u/mwa12345 Aug 08 '24
This. I know state department gets a lot of negative feedback .about our support for war crimes by the apartheid state.
Yet- our willingness to sacrifice long term allies - only to be slavishly loyal to an eethnistate : this indicates there are allies and there are masters .
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u/ashenhaired Aug 08 '24
They never had any standards. They existed to give freedom and power to christian white men. They just tolerate other races and religions until it doesn't suit them anymore.
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u/Real_Asparagus4926 Aug 07 '24
Is it any surprise? I’ve seen so many videos lately of Israeli Zionist tourists harassing Japanese people who were quietly and peacefully protesting the genocide. It seems that even though Germany, GB, US and Israel forgot, Japan is holding true to the term; Never Forget.
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u/Zyrithian Aug 08 '24
Germany seriosly said never again a billion times and now they're doing it again
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u/Blue4Rhinos Aug 07 '24
We aren't all like this
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u/unicornsbelieveinyou Aug 07 '24
No, but the ambassadors are official government representatives.
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u/Blue4Rhinos Aug 07 '24
All British PMs are a mess currently you can't blame it on the population
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u/unicornsbelieveinyou Aug 07 '24
I don’t think anyone is doing that. It’s still not a good look. The fact that there are protests against the government’s actions and they don’t seem to care makes it worse, don’t you think?
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u/Blue4Rhinos Aug 07 '24
We don't control the government
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u/mwa12345 Aug 08 '24
Sadly , true.
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u/Blue4Rhinos Aug 08 '24
They aren't doing shit about immigration I'm worried for my family in the future
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u/mwa12345 Aug 08 '24
Saw somewhere that the second most non English language spoken in England (+Wales) is Polish?
Are you worried about all immigration or primarily more people from other cultures ? Believe some of the events in Leeds have targeted Muslims - even though the 17 year old tuned out to have been from a Christian family - albeit with African origins.
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u/Blue4Rhinos Aug 08 '24
I don't care what race they are but immigration is out of control if it wasn't obvious enough we are a small country (the same size as South Korea) our population is 66 million and that is bigger than both Canada and Australia which is very concerning as they are much bigger countries than UK we accept way too much immigrants but they aren't doing much to the British economy we have the same economic growth as Japan a country that doesn't accept many immigrants as other western countries it's already turning into a third world with all these protests we as a whole will never get along with diversity because of extremists and many religions mixing together as a country yes I know not every one who follows a religion is an extremist but there's quite the handful..
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u/Blue4Rhinos Aug 07 '24
We do we are both protesting for Palestine (not me but you get what I mean)
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u/phovos Aug 07 '24
well it don't get more clear cut than that.
We must be taken out just as badly as the evil Zionist entity.
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u/GeshtiannaSG Singapore Aug 07 '24
Can we just expel the 3 from all international organisations and forums? The world would be far more peaceful without them. Yes yes, Russia China blah blah, but they stay close to their borders and not spread death across the whole world. They don't go to Central America and South America and Africa and Middle East and so on. Even Europe would be better without them.
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u/skyfishgoo Aug 07 '24
not defending the boycott, just want to point out that
china is in africa
russia was in afganistan before the US was there.
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u/TTTyrant Aug 07 '24 edited Aug 07 '24
Lol, how many bombs has China dropped in Africa? How many military bases does it have in Africa? How many slaves has China taken from Africa? How many colonies has China established in Africa?
And no, the US was funding and training the Mujahideen in Afghanistan to counter the Afghan communist revolution. US special forces and intelligence were on the ground there long before the Afghan government requested Soviet intervention.
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u/urmomaisjabbathehutt Aug 07 '24
Good doggie, nice doggie aww look blinken wagging his tail, here boi, have a zio treat
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u/Regular_Ad_6818 Aug 07 '24
Together in Genocide: US, UK, Israel.
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Aug 07 '24
So they’re going to snub a key ally with a much larger economy over an illegitimate state that has destabilized the Middle East for decades?
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u/mwa12345 Aug 08 '24
Yes. Because not allies are the same some are just allies. Others are our masters
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Aug 07 '24
Fuck Rahm Emanuel.
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u/passporttohell Ireland Aug 07 '24
Exactly. I am surprised and deeply disappointed he is the ambassador to Japan.
He never should have been in consideration for the job.
He is a hard core zionist and his father was a member of Irgun.
During Obama's administration as Chief of Staff he was well known for his bullying and dismissive tone.
When he resigned as mayor the majority of Chicago breathed a sigh of relief to be rid of him.
I feel sorry for the Japanese having to tiptoe around his explosive temper.
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u/mwa12345 Aug 08 '24
Also .the whole "burying if tape showing Chicago cops killing black teenager until reelection". That is overreach of authority.
One of the crappiest appointments by Biden. (And Biden did a lot of crappy appointments)
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u/passporttohell Ireland Aug 08 '24
Gotta agree. I had forgotten about him, then saw the story where he's the ambassador to Japan. What did Japan ever do to the US to deserve such disrespect? They should have sent him to Tajekistan. . .
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u/mwa12345 Aug 08 '24
Haha. 3hat did the tajiks do to deserve that. They fought for the allies ..and I think the soviets used them like cannon fodder. (Kinda the way the Nazis used some poorly equipped allies . Hungarians ?)
I realize you used Tajikistan..the way people use "outer Mongolia", "Timbuktu" etc
This was 4ven more of a bad appointment because Japanese culture is a lot more about decorum
Emanuel prided on being the Ahole .
Maybe sent him to Australia They know how to treat a C*NT like Emanuel.
There is no rule that all aholes need to be given a job in the administration.
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Aug 08 '24
What pisses me off about this is that he is there to represent the US, not Israel.
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u/mwa12345 Aug 08 '24
True. But his father let the truth out of the bag..when Obama appointed him chief of staff
Obama's "hope and change " ended then .
He was also part of the reason we didn't get the public option
Yet he keeps getting hired for plum.jibs - jobs for which he is eminently unqualified.
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Aug 07 '24
Don't you find it weird that the US, and the west in general, don't give af anymore about their own citizens? They don't care how the rest of the world views them anymore. All that just to defend the Zionazis?! Weird.
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u/chictyler Aug 07 '24
the most high ranking Israeli officials can openly say “we are committing genocide. All Arabs must die. All children are enemies. We seek to build Israeli settlements after turning ‘Judea and Samaria’ into glass” every single day and the US still insists it’s self defense and there’s no moral equivalence to the horrors of a regional bully who seeks regime change on its neighbor and in 2.5 years has killed a fraction the number of civilians as Israel did in 8 months in these attempts.
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u/Baslifico Aug 07 '24
This year, Israel was omitted as well. The American and British ambassadors said the Nagasaki mayor’s decision not to invite Israel wrongly equated the country’s war against Hamas in Gaza with Russia and Belarus’s actions.
They're right, Russia's only been murdering innocent Ukrainians and stealing their land for a couple of years, Israel's been doing it for decades.
Russia also hasn't been intentionally killing aid workers.
So there's no equivalence whatsoever.
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u/Cyber_shafter Aug 07 '24
Why would Japan invite the US in the first place? Did the US ever apologise for nuking Nagasaki?
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u/New-Obligation-6432 Aug 07 '24
The US Ambasador to Japan is called Rahm Israel Emanuel, just for context.
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u/hetseErOgsaaDyr Aug 07 '24
Because their governments are actively supporting and aiding the genocide (making them complicit).
A**holes
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u/Sanokc1807 Aug 07 '24
Good riddance! They're the ones that killed and kill most people anyway. 🥹🥹🎊🎊
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u/shakethetroubles Aug 08 '24
At what point do we all recognize israel owns the US and UK governments?
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u/tfffvdfgg Aug 08 '24
Let's have a peace ceremony and invite all the countries currently waging war
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u/GuardEcstatic2353 Aug 08 '24
No problem, Japan is the second most powerful country in the G7. We are not at the mercy of the West. Japan is not a dog of Israel.
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u/_adinfinitum_ Aug 07 '24
“Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and Israel’s self-defense is not morally equivalent,” Rahm Emanuel, the U.S. ambassador to Japan, said in an emailed statement.
Ffs
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u/bkkbeymdq Aug 08 '24
Good , will have a nice Streisand affect.
Look forward to the day when our foreign policy is juvenile petty bitch mode.
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u/mwa12345 Aug 08 '24
This will be buried by the media. They know what they are doing ...and who butters their toast
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u/17samia2233 Aug 10 '24
Wait, why was US invited in the first place to a bomb site that they had bombed in the first place ?
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