r/InternationalNews • u/speakhyroglyphically • Jul 10 '24
Asia Japan - Former Unit 731 Member to Apologize to Chinese People for War Crimes
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u/BECondensateSnake Jul 10 '24
Meanwhile the IDF veterans laugh at the memories of killing innocent Palestinians and raping young girls. Unrelated but man, the difference is staggering.
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u/Admirable-Mistake259 Jul 11 '24
Years after some of them will feel bad .
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u/jeremiahthedamned United States Jul 11 '24
some of them are committing suicide.
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u/Admirable-Mistake259 Jul 11 '24
Never heard of that , but rest in piss to any shitty zionszi
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u/NovaKaizr Jul 11 '24
The ones killing themselves are likely the ones with a conscience. Those who take joy in their actions are probably not.
If all the people who disagree with the atrocities kill themselves, all you are going to be left with are those who don't
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u/jeremiahthedamned United States Jul 11 '24
if they felt remorse then their r/afterlife will be better than those wretches that died without shame.
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u/Hieu_Nguyen_1 Jul 11 '24
Better, as in being boiled in hot water rather than in lava indeed.
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u/jeremiahthedamned United States Jul 11 '24
pretty much.........
r/Reincarnation as a human is a privilege.
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u/JadedPilot5484 Jul 11 '24
It’s times like this I wish there was an afterlife for them to suffer in, but their god forgives all so they will still go to heaven no punishment for killing children in a holy war against non believers.
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u/jeremiahthedamned United States Jul 11 '24
r/EdgarCayce said this was not true.
he said we all "meet ourselves".
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u/BECondensateSnake Jul 11 '24
I've seen videos of ex IDF soldiers having mental breakingdowns and ptsd because of their past actions. One guy said something about how his team would bring dogs to attack Palestinian kids in the West Back and how he can still hear the screams of the kids whenever he hears a dog barking (or something to that effect)
Also they take tons of medications just to be able to sleep, that's probably a well known thing though.
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u/hydroxypcp Estonia Jul 11 '24
many Nazis, especially SS members, would drink themselves to sleep most nights
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u/oncothrow Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24
Reminds me of a Frankie Boyle bit.
American foreign policy is horrendous 'cause not only will America come to your country and kill all your people, but what's worse, I think, is that they'll come back 20 years later and make a movie about how killing your people made their soldiers feel sad.
Of course if you watch Tantura, they just talk in the documentary about how they're pleased with themselves so... yeah I guess that's worse.
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u/JadedPilot5484 Jul 11 '24
Doubt it, they see Palestine as land that belongs to them promised to them by their genocidal imaginary friend. Netanyahu has said there is no such thing as the Palestinian people, it’s easy to commit war crimes when you see the people as less than human.
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u/RenzlllaR Jul 11 '24
Respect for mentioning this. The diaper force will see their worse times when karma hits.
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u/speakhyroglyphically Jul 10 '24
Jul, 10 - 2024 -TOKYO, (Xinhua) -- "I have always wanted to go to China to pray for the deceased and apologize to their families," said Hideo Shimizu, a Japanese veteran who served at the notorious Japanese germ warfare army during World War II.
Nearly 94, the former Unit 731 Youth Corps member made the remarks at a recent press conference held in Iida City, central Japanese prefecture of Nagano.
Shimizu is set to visit China in August, returning to the origin of his lifelong heavy memories -- the Japanese bacteriology unit's sprawling complex in the northeastern Chinese city of Harbin, where thousands of Chinese civilians and Allied prisoners of war were killed from the late 1930s to the end of the war, and now the Museum of Evidence of War Crimes by the Japanese Army Unit 731.
Seventy-nine years ago, Shimizu spent over four months in Harbin as part of the last group of Unit 731 Youth Corps members. On Aug. 14, 1945, he fled China with Japanese troops.
He recalled gruesome scenes he witnessed during his time in Harbin: seeing rooms filled with various human organs, including specimens of fetuses at different stages of development, and being ordered to collect the bones of prisoners who had been used as experimental subjects.
"Although I escaped back to Japan, those images still haunt me. I don't understand why the Japanese army didn't even spare children," Shimizu said.
After returning to Japan, Shimizu kept his experiences to himself, not even sharing them with his family until decades later in 2016, he publicly revealed his identity as a former Unit 731 Youth Corps member.
Since then, he has dedicated himself to exposing the crimes of Unit 731 and educating the public about the historical truths... (more.. https://english.news.cn/asiapacific/20240708/2a1358371c8d45a291cbca8601adef49/c.html
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u/BECondensateSnake Jul 10 '24
Fucking hell that's absolutely wild. "I don't understand why the Japanese army didn't even spare children" is crazy.
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u/SpinningHead Jul 10 '24
731 made Mengele look tame.
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u/hydroxypcp Estonia Jul 11 '24
it truly is the worst I've read about. I'm not making this claim lightly. I've read tons of detailed descriptions of what serial killers did and what happened in Nazi death camps. Unit 731 is the worst I can recall. Absolutely horrifying
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u/javierich0 Jul 11 '24
At least he is speaking against it, he should've done life in jail or execution.
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u/Active_Juggernaut484 Jul 11 '24
In Shenyang, Liaoning (formerly Manchuria), there is a museum commemorating to the atrocities carried out during the Japanese occupation. It is an unimaginably horrific place to visit. It also had a section dedicated to Unit 731 when I visited it
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u/BlueberryBubblyBuzz Jul 10 '24
Oh wow I was just reading recently how Japan has never apologized for the "comfort women" (women forced into sexual slavery for Japanese soldiers, these women having to have sex with the soldiers sometimes 100 times a day) that occurred in multiple countries. It simply looks like one man here apologizing, why does Japan not apologize for this stuff? I mean it does not cost them anything and would mean a lot to so many. I mean of course you could never erase the harm done, but what does acknowledging take? Sad.
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u/Fit_Flower_8982 Jul 11 '24
There are not many left involved, so if japan keeps delaying the matter, in the end it will just be an old sin with no living victims. At that point, they might even pretend to take responsibility while brushing it off.
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u/Prestigious_Net_8356 Jul 11 '24
I'm not a Japan apologist, it can never be enough, but there have been apologies.
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u/BlueberryBubblyBuzz Jul 11 '24
Eh, I guess what I was reading was out of date and needs an update. Thanks for the info~
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u/Prestigious_Net_8356 Jul 11 '24
In the past, Japanese had a tendency to use a very nuanced language, so the apologies could go unnoticed. It doesn't help that the Mainland Chinese are constantly using the Japanese war atrocities as a diversion, both home and abroad, from all of their own crimes against humanity.
It would help if the 1066 war criminals enshrined at Yasukuni Shrine were removed, that could be a compromise. A visit from a Japanese prime minister to the shrine always gets the Koreans and the Chinese into a huff. The Japanese could maintain its traditions, while making a significant acknowledgement of the crimes Japan committed.
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u/In_Amber_ Jul 11 '24
Claiming that china uses their fight against genocide as a diversion is probably the most fucked thing ive heard this week.
In Nanjing alone, between 300,000 to up to 1 million civikians were killed. Would you like to know how japan talks about the nanjing massacre? Well, that's easy. They don't. They claim it was an incident.
First, they claimed it never happened. nowadays, they prefer to claim that most people killed were in the chinese army. Not one japanese leader to date has apologised for their crimes and meant it.
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u/Discussion-is-good Jul 11 '24
Claiming that china uses their fight against genocide as a diversion is probably the most fucked thing ive heard this week.
He said they use the atrocities committed against them as a diversion.
and meant it.
Not to defend Japan, but you can't really know that. No one can.
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u/In_Amber_ Jul 11 '24
Ill believe they are apologising for it when their state mandates history textbooks stop downplaying what they did or outright denying they did it.
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u/jyastaway Jul 11 '24
If you mean the textbooks are denying a million civilian were killed in Nanjing, a claim no serious historian believes, then yes, the textbooks are downplaying the war crimes.
But for all practical purpose, the textbooks cover the Nanjing massacre quite well. In fact some Stanford study have shown the Chinese textbooks are far more biased than the Japanese ones.
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u/In_Amber_ Jul 12 '24
So, was it a massacre like china says it was, or was it merely an incident like japan claims?
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u/jyastaway Jul 12 '24
It was a massacre, like Japan also says, in fact. You may be surprised to hear that the only thing china and Japan are disagreeing on on an official capacity, is the number of victims, not the existence of a massacre.
But we will probably never truly know the real extent of the atrocities. The only evidence of the gut wrenching atrocities are eyewitness testimonies, and we all know too well from past, and even present conflicts how unreliable they can be (think of the war in Gaza or the North Korean still claiming US soldiers did to them pretty much every horror imaginable during the Korean war, like boiling or burying them alive). The perhaps only reliable eyewitness is John rabe, who does not at all describe the any rampage or killing spree commonly describing the Nanjing massacre
And China and Japan will keep using that unreconcilable disagreement as an eternal tool to instill hatred within their population.
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u/perfect_zeong Jul 11 '24
The unit 731 stuff is something that your average American kid doesn’t know about :)
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Jul 11 '24
They only know about the holocaust.
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u/Mr_Frost1993 Jul 11 '24
I actually laughed when the ADL claimed that young Americans don’t learn about the Holocaust anymore. All of my friends’ kids and even teachers I know in three states have told me that the WWII modules in grade school history classes cover only three things: Pearl Harbor, the Holocaust, and Hiroshima/Nagasaki. Even back when I was in high school almost two decades ago, the main things that were covered were always Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust, with lesser emphasis on D-Day, Battle of the Bulge, and Hiroshima/Nagasaki
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Jul 11 '24
Exactly this. In the U.S. they don’t even cover the Vietnam war nor the war in Korea. Guess they only want to focus on the “positive”.
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u/Mr_Frost1993 Jul 11 '24
Come to think of it… yeah. I don’t think I ever learned anything about Korea, and I went to literally the #1 high school in Illinois lmao. We verryyyyy briefly covered Vietnam, and even then it was only about the anti-war protests and the pullout. At least they briefly told us about the French pullout as part of the preamble
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u/SAGElBeardO Jul 11 '24
Part of preventing the continuation of cycles of violence is acknowledging that these atrocities have happened. I hope this is part of a larger coming together of their communities, building on their shared humanity rather than dwelling on the mistakes of previous generations.
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u/lookaway123 Jul 10 '24
Incredibly powerful. May this man know peace, his guilt and horror are apparent. Unit 731 is the stuff of nightmares.
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Jul 11 '24
Too little, too fucking late. You don't get to live a full life and try to cleanse your soul before you die while all the people you killed were taken without a thought.
Burn in hell.
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u/Mr_Frost1993 Jul 11 '24
Guy was a child himself in the youth corps when he was there, it’s the main reason he hasn’t died of old age yet. At least he apologized for his involvement, Japan generally still likes to act as though they did nothing wrong
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u/ellas_emporium Sep 04 '24
You torture and kill and rape people and the best you can do, 80 years later is… sorry. This guy ought to be in prison rotting.
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u/Admirable-Mistake259 Jul 11 '24
China will pee on japan . Without the western power cover . Those grudges can never leaves .
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u/Discussion-is-good Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24
"China will beat a country with little in the way of its own military without outside intervention" is not the biggest brag.
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u/Nice_Distribution832 Jul 10 '24
Yea yea apologies are cool and all, but i want to see the gathered data.
How much of it was/is usable? How much of it was sadistic tendencies?
D.A.T.A. I want it now.
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u/axeteam Jul 11 '24
Most of the stuff were not helpful to modern science at all, for example, injecting horse blood into a human is not okay.
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u/In_Amber_ Jul 11 '24
Almost none of the "tests" they were doing were in any way meant to be scientific or breakthrough achieving. They were doing it to hurt people.
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u/Regular-Basket-5431 Jul 11 '24
According the report from the staff at Fort Detrick none of the data was usable, with many of the "experiments" lacking the very fundamentals of the scientific process.
Basically we gave immunity to a bunch of monsters and in return we got garbage.
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u/jeremiahthedamned United States Jul 11 '24
a lot of it was about how to treat frostbite.
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