r/InternationalNews • u/AdventureBirdDog • Jun 25 '24
International State Department Matt (Goebbles) Miller says Israel told him IDF was not operating near Hind Rajab Location (despite independent report that IDF tank shot 355 bullets into the family car). Says UN and other agencies wont work with IDF.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUelL7acpVw97
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u/Book_devourer Jun 25 '24
The UN is lying everyone is lying except israhell and their main supplier. Got it
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u/voxpopper Jun 25 '24
Note how he stumbles over the term "independent investigation" and quickly corrects himself to indicate that Israel is in charge of investigating it's own potential war crimes.
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u/NOLA-Bronco Jun 25 '24
I know no organization with the actual resources to do it actually would(cause most are soft co-conspirators to Israel's genocidal project), but I would love someone to literally just catalogue and follow up every time Israel commits an atrocity and tells the world "we're investigating, we'll let you know what happens"
My guess is that close to 98% never produce anything beyond those statements, and I'm probably giving them too much credit still.
But it is a deference and trust Western Media has afforded Israel that no other country or ally is given outside internally when the war drums begin banging, despite the endless examples of how untrustworthy they are.
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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 Jun 25 '24
This is what happens is the evidence is beyond overwhelming, and there is extreme pressure on Israel to conduct the investigation and share the result:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Shireen_Abu_Akleh#Inquiry
In summary, they make up painfully obvious extremely lazy lies, and they get away with it.
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u/NOLA-Bronco Jun 25 '24
And if I remember correctly all that scrutiny and Israel still couldn't manage to find the murderer, let alone do anything about it.
But the NYTimes and others will forever have collective amnesia and go right back to printing their lies without verification or a warning about the IDF's history of lying and gaslighting.
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u/That_Shape_1094 Jun 25 '24
But it is a deference and trust Western Media has afforded Israel that no other country or ally is given
That's not true. The western media is pretty good at downplaying war crimes committed by the United States as well. In fact, most things that is negative towards America is downplayed as well. For example, do you know the name of the American airman who set himself on fire to protest against Israel? Imagine if that wasn't a protest against Israel, but against Russia. What would the media reaction be like? How many days and weeks and months of coverage will we be seeing ?
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u/AdventureBirdDog Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
State department rep Matt Miller is pressed for answers about Hind Rajab, 6 year old Palestinian girl. After reports that her and her family's car was struck by 355 IDF tank bullets. Claims Israel wasn't operating near the car and says Israel is investigating itself again...
I wish someone asked if he heard the phone call of Layan Hamada calling PRC and the bullets killing her. If he heard Hind's phone call with PRC telling them that there is a tank next to her. He is doubting Layan and Hind's witness testimony of the last moments of their lives?
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u/chewinchawingum Jun 25 '24
We have her testimony. We have the evidence painstakingly analyzed by Forensic Architecture, including sound recordings, the damaged car and ambulance, satellite imagery, and more. ALL of this evidence is just what's publicly available. We know perfectly well that the US Government has access to even more evidence that would conclusively prove Israel's guilt.
But Miller has "Israel said 'Nah, we didn't do it.'" So case closed, obviously.
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u/AdventureBirdDog Jun 25 '24
That forensic Architecture website is incredible
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u/logawnio Jun 26 '24
What sucks is that people will put together this huge page of evidence that likely took tens of hours to put together, just for israel and the US to refute it with "nah, didn't happen". Then everyone moves on until the next provable lie from the IDF
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u/AdventureBirdDog Jun 26 '24
True the US will ignore or dismiss it, but could it be used as evidence in ICC and ICJ cases? and the forensic scientist be used as expert testimony?
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u/TryptaMagiciaN Jun 25 '24
No you see, Israeli tanks are actually Hamas
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u/hydroxypcp Estonia Jun 26 '24
I mean, IOF is the most moral army in the multiverse. So what's more probable, that an IOF tank shot a 6 year old girl with her family in the a car or that a khamas superagent telepathically controlled the tank? We all know it's the latter
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u/SympathyOver1244 Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
it's not in the interests of aid agencies to work with IDF, since they will target them later on...
Former US State Dept. official Josh Paul may have mentioned how one of the Palestinian aid agency were labelled as terrorist organisation;
whence Israel were pressed for wrongdoings on basis of the information provided by the afromentioned agency...
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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 Jun 25 '24
It's also not in the interest of aid agencies to not work with IDF, because they will target them earlier on...
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u/thunderbaby2 Jun 25 '24
This is like letting the murderer on trial be both the prosecuting attorney and defense attorney while Matt Miller (and cabinet) is the judge. Also the murder is the judges son lol.
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u/satwah Jun 25 '24
They could not pay me enough to stand there and just keep lying (for the whole world to see) when the truth is pretty clear backed by evidence.
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u/logawnio Jun 26 '24
Youve gotta be a soulless ghoul to do that job. Idk how they sleep at night or have the respect of their wife and children.
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u/hydroxypcp Estonia Jun 26 '24
imagine being this guy's wife/gf/whatever. I'd kick the mfer to the curb first thing in the morning
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u/Peace_Freedom Jun 25 '24
Miller is an absolute GHOUL in living human form. He's about the strangest looking fellow I've seen in a long time.
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u/Misswinterseren Jun 25 '24
The world is watching ,they can see the lies and they know what Israel is and they know what the United States is by supporting this. We should not be supporting a genocide. It is wrong. Israel needs to get out of our politics by being the biggest money supplier to Trump and Biden, they are both bought and paid for by Israel. We need to be free of obligation to support zionist who are committing genocide.
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u/lkslondon Jun 25 '24
This guy. God you need to come back quick coz shit is fucking crazy out here. There are no words to describe the current state of the world. Fucking sickening. Makes me ashamed to be human.
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u/Elipticalwheel1 Jun 26 '24
Soo, with all the U.S spy satellites, that can see the impression of a postage stamp, they are saying that they couldn’t see any of this happening, I find this very hard too believe, ie probably half of all the U.S Satellites are focused on Gaza as I’m writing this. Both sides are full of shite and lying too the rest of the world.
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u/WASRenjoyer Jun 25 '24
Is Hamas in the room with us now?
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Jun 25 '24
Found the terrorist supporter
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u/BornSirius Jun 26 '24
Oh, I must have missed the ceremony where you got the right to define what a terrorist organisation is. /s
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u/hydroxypcp Estonia Jun 26 '24
even Zionists' jokes are just unfunny as hell
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u/hydroxypcp Estonia Jun 26 '24 edited Jun 26 '24
tell me how this is relevant. Or you want to also punish us collectively? When is the indiscriminate bombing of Estonia going to commence?
E: better yet, when is the carpet bombing of Europe gonna start? You can find at least 1 antisemite in each country, so what else is there to do 🤷♀️ and you also need that Lebensraum after all too so why not take all of Europe as well
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u/lime-equine-2 Jun 25 '24
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u/BornSirius Jun 26 '24
You seem confused. Just because you genocide-supporters are unitary evil doesn't mean you're nonbinary.
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u/lime-equine-2 Jun 26 '24
I was saying his comment was referring to himself. I guess it looks like an upvote not just an arrow pointing up. Still a shitty reason to be transphobic. If you care to look through my history you’ll see I support Palestine.
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u/BornSirius Jun 26 '24
Then I misunderstood your comment and apologize for being rude.
It looked like you want to voice support for the other guy.
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u/lime-equine-2 Jun 26 '24
It seems a lot of people took my comment that way. My fault for being vague. I don’t appreciate the attack on a person’s identity even if they are a Zionist
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