r/InternationalNews • u/rszdev • Jun 05 '24
International Matthew Miller who says ICC has no jurisdiction over Israel - Palestine conflict exposed for saying that Israel has jurisdiction over occupied territory. He further says USA has jurisdiction over Palestine. Journalist asks him who gave USA the jurisdiction
A bit old video but he's exposed really well by the journalist and Matthew comes up with useless illogical answers.
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u/marktaylor521 Jun 05 '24
Matt Miller needs to pray that there is no judgment after our lives end. He needs to pray for nothing but darkness, because he will surely be burning in hell for eternity, otherwise. I despise that man.
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Jun 05 '24
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u/RubLatter Jun 05 '24
Some people still cover their eyes and see lies as truth just to feel better for themselves including himself.
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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 Jun 05 '24
They aren't doing this for the people watching. Average people don't watch these things.
These press briefings are done to give the mainstream media something to base their lies on. If you lie professionally, you need to do it in layers.
Main stream media lies, references state department. State department lies, references IDF. IDF lies, calling them out is anti semitic and only baaad people are anti semitic and you aren't a baaad person, are you?
If they reference only the IDF directly, the pattern of lies eventually becomes far too obvious even for the average person.
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Jun 06 '24
The guy asking questions is also part of the main stream media.
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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 Jun 06 '24
Yes, and he doesn't care about losing his job, which why he's been able to consistently ask good questions all these months. The editors apparently do care about losing their jobs, so instead of stories eviscerating the state department you get zionist guest writers inventing false stories about mass rapes.
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u/AndoMacster Jun 06 '24
You can see him smirking as he's talking about it.
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u/hydroxypcp Estonia Jun 06 '24
man I keep saying it. The abhorrent lies aside, Matthew Miller just looks so fucking smug doing it, I don't get how the journalist has the patience to sit there and listen and not go up there and wipe that smirk right off his face
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u/Poltergeist97 Jun 06 '24
John Kirby too. Definitely seems the type too giddy defending such despicable actions.
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u/SaltShakerz93 Jun 06 '24
For some reason I can't hate the guy. He's just doing his job by stating the administration's indefensible position and somehow make it make sense to a room full of journalists too smart to not smell the bullshit. He tries. Oh he really tries to play with words to soften the blow but ultimately there is no way to do so. All I am saying is that I appreciate the effort to still pretend like there's any morality behind their actions. Because I still believe the situation could be much much worse.
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u/Sbeast Jun 06 '24
God: "I have evaluated your life, and you shall go to purgatory under further notice!"
Matt: "You don't have jurisdiction here!"
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u/rszdev Jun 05 '24
The Source of the video short
Name of the amazing journalist Matt Lee that is making Matthew squirm
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u/unalienation Jun 05 '24
A further hypocrisy is that the US's rationale for why the ICC doesn't have jurisdiction is that Israel is not a signatory to the Rome Statute (but Palestine is). And yet, the US supports the ICC's indictment of Vladimir Putin, even though Russia is not a signatory to the Rome Statute (neither is Ukraine).
"For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law."
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u/rszdev Jun 05 '24
So in this video US State Department Spokesman is confronted by a Journalist for denying ICCs jurisdiction over Israel's Nethanyahu. He fails to logically answer who has jurisdiction over Gaza, he says that Israeli military can look up into their own actions......
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u/couplemore1923 Jun 05 '24
What legal recourse do the Palestinian people of Gaza have? The Biden admin US Fed Govt refuse enforce not only international laws but it’s own laws; The Leahy Law & War Crimes Act. The Palestinians need form a class action lawsuit against US govt have a judge rule on the overwhelming evidence proving US govts guilt . It would set a new precedence that’s desperately needed.
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u/Independentizo Jun 05 '24
Well said. It’s tragic and completely political. Saving Israel from their own crimes and saving the US from its own complicity is getting harder and harder.
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u/Dineology Jun 05 '24
Can also add the Symington Amendments in the Arms Control Export Act and the Foreign Assistance Act to the list of US laws that we routinely violate in our continued arming of Israel.
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u/couplemore1923 Jun 05 '24 edited Jun 06 '24
Let’s not forget about NPT part! Rogue nations with a nuclear weapons arsenal who refuse adhere to international laws should scare any rationally minded person! (For those who do not know israel refuses join NPTbut demands other nations do) https://www.state.gov/nuclear-nonproliferation-treaty/
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u/JohnDark1800 Jun 05 '24
He really just doesn’t know what jurisdiction means. He’s confusing it with just having a vested interest.
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u/abyss_of_mediocrity Jun 06 '24
He knows exactly what jurisdiction means; he just has no moral or ethical reason to deny the ICC jurisdiction.
His pathetic attempt to explain American hypocrisy is what leads to the word jumble.
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u/buxomballs Jun 05 '24
He actually looks a bit shook here which is unusual
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u/Alt_Boogeyman Jun 05 '24
It's not applicable at all, not even by some sort of tortured analogy. The Leahy Law is a prohibition on the DoD supplying military assistance to human rights violators. It has nothing to do with jurisdiction, criminal or otherwise.
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u/hydroxypcp Estonia Jun 06 '24
my question is tho, how tf they fail so bad? Using Leahy law in such a ridiculous and irrelevant manner? They really are not sending their best, are they
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u/LordPubes Jun 05 '24
Fucking imperialist ghoul
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u/Affectionate_Fly1413 Jun 05 '24
"After the nazi party fell, many were prosecuted and sentenced. Many fled amd many were hunted and so many claimed they were just following orders. Which group do you think you will belong in?"
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u/rszdev Jun 05 '24
You can judge from this:
USA recruited top scientists from Hitler's military industrial complex
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Jun 05 '24
It takes a certain type psycho to be standing there and lie with a straight face. It’s like a natural talent to have no moral.
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u/adz180587 Jun 06 '24
Matthew Miller's conflicting statements on jurisdiction over Israel-Palestine and the USA's role raise serious questions about the legitimacy and fairness of international legal standards.
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Jun 06 '24
This sick motherfucker is really going to bring up the Leahy Laws? We would have cut military ties with Israel decades ago if those meant anything. How is it that Israel has such a tight vice-grip around our balls?
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u/BHF_Bianconero Jun 06 '24
Big bullies. Then they think they have moral high ground talking about Russia, China, Iran, etc., while financing genocide on woman and children.
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u/nekojitaa Jun 06 '24
It's like saying - Why can the USA have jurisdiction over Palestine but China can't have jurisdiction over Taiwan? - stupid hypocrite. Foreign countries shouldn't have any jurisdiction over land that isn't theirs to occupy, period.
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u/Sbeast Jun 06 '24
So in other words, some countries can do war crimes but not others. That's what it breaks down to.
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u/Syd_v63 Jun 06 '24
Where we have to get to? How does he suppose that’s going to happen, the current Israeli Government doesn’t believe in a Two State Solution
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u/Viciouscauliflower21 Jun 06 '24
Every press conference with him specifically makes me want to put my head through a sheetrock wall
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u/bleblahblee Jun 06 '24
“We have use through our military equipment” is just political speak for “we took it from them so I’m right”
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u/One-Low8135 Jun 06 '24
I really hope we see a day when these snakes face criminal charges for their blatant lies. All these government types do is stand there and lie to our faces then play theatre to get us emotional about other subjects to keep us divided. It's clear that they are paid for. It's like watching a death cult in action. Absolutely despicable.
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u/Drew-404 Jun 06 '24
Look at the fear in this guy’s face as the spin is unraveling. US government just thinks all will buy the shit they’re throwing out. In a round about way he’s just admitted they are liable for the death and destruction in Gaza
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u/ProfitFriendly696 Jun 06 '24
i like to see how he try to insert dominance but somehow end up like that
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u/Binfe101 Jun 06 '24
Biden and his team are on team Israel. Sholz, Starmer and Sunak too. The sooner these journalists realize this, the sooner they can go and interview others who can add value to the discussion.
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u/Jimbo922 Jun 06 '24
So, Palestinians are supposed to take their claim of genocide to whom? The folks committing the genocide in israel? Or the folks supplying the weapons for the genocide in the US? Matt Miller is such a gd clown. The asininity that it takes to give an answer like this…wow..only from a US mouthpiece. Why would he even mention the Leahy Laws? I don’t remember anyone in the room asking: “Hey Matt, do y’all realize you’re in violation of the Leahy Laws by supplying weapons to a state committing mass human rights abuses?”. Really shows you what the administration is starting to get nervous about
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u/VictorianDelorean Jun 06 '24
Who gave the US jurisdiction?
“the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must” is said to have been spoken by an Athenian diplomat in 416 BC but it has been the only real law of war since time immemorial. The shock is not that we still act this way, it’s that we’re so good at convincing ourselves there’s more justification behind what we do.
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u/Reddit_BroZar Jun 06 '24
We now live in a reality of cynical double standards. Narrative, ideology, justification/condemnation of geopolitical action and even international law are now being bent and shaped as we cherry pick our truths.
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u/elqrd Jun 06 '24
Whenever they call you by your first name you know you have them by the balls
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u/SokkaHaikuBot Jun 06 '24
Sokka-Haiku by elqrd:
Whenever they call
You by your first name you know
You have them by the balls
Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.
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u/adminsrlying2u Jun 06 '24
Is this just reposted for easy karma or just propaganda? Definitely not current news, as you admittedly recognize.
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u/moyismoy Jun 05 '24
The journalist was just interrupting him as he was explaining. The USA has a say in how it's weapons are used, they have a very narrow jurisdiction in that regard, it's true not just here but everywhere we sell or give weapons to. It's mostly about trying to make sure the laws of arm conflict are obayed.
It's a condition for getting the good stuff, the Russians sell to anyone who will do anything with them.
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u/rszdev Jun 05 '24
Billions of dollars of US money and weapons are being to for genocide for locals of Palestine for ethnic cleansing against will of US citizens they don't support this
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