r/InternationalNews • u/speakhyroglyphically • May 13 '24
Opinion/Analysis Why Egypt joining ICJ case against Israel is 'unprecedented’
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u/arjunusmaximus May 14 '24
Does it really matter in the end when the biggest supporter of Israel remains the US and they'll not only keep giving Israel BILLIONS in money and weapons and tech but keep supporting them internationally and politically and veto and block anything against Israel?
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u/speakhyroglyphically May 13 '24
May 13, 2024 - Analyst Dalia Fahmy calls Egypt, as the first Arab nation to recognize and formalize ties with Israel, joing the ICJ case against them "unprecedennted" in the history of history of the 2 states.
Related article https://www.commondreams.org/news/egypt-icj-israel
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u/They_Killed_Kenny_13 May 13 '24
I am guessing Jordan will be next due to the pressure by its citizens many of whom are Palestinians.
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u/Forward_Wolverine180 May 14 '24
Jordan is run by a dude who’s first language is English they will forever support Israel
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u/MinderBinderCapital May 14 '24
We'll see how long that lasts.
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u/Northstar1989 May 14 '24
With probably a zillion CIA black sites in the country just to prevent any attempt at replacing the US puppet regime there?
A longgg time.
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u/Fantastic-Chard3038 May 14 '24
What are they going to do, occupy Jordan if the ziopuppet gets removed?
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u/Northstar1989 May 15 '24
No, hunt down anyone who wants regime change, and absuct/torture/kill them long before they can build a movement.
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May 13 '24
It's unprecedented because the Egyptian government is a basket case that relies on foreign aid to prop it up. They're joining the ICJ case despite knowing they will most likely be retaliated against by having their aid cut off.
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u/Lazy-Jeweler3230 May 13 '24
Speaking of basket case countries reliant on foreign aid to be propped up....
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u/Pixelology May 14 '24
Thankfully, Hamas' Gaza can't be considered a country
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u/Lazy-Jeweler3230 May 14 '24
More of a country than "israel".
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u/Pixelology May 14 '24
How so?
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u/Lazy-Jeweler3230 May 14 '24
"Israel" is a fake, paper machete country willed into existence by western powers for western interests and made to continue to exist through the large supply of money and weapons.
Leave that Zionist theocracy on its own and it's turning to dust.
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u/Pixelology May 14 '24
How do you explain Israel not having any Western support until the 70's? The British turned on the Jews in the land well before rhe creation of Israel, and the Americans couldn't give less of a fuck until around the time of the Suez Crisis.
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u/Lazy-Jeweler3230 May 14 '24
I explain it by saying you're just making shit up at this point, and anyone with an ounce of honesty knows it, *Zionist*.
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u/Pixelology May 14 '24
Lmao okay buddy. This is pretty common knowledge. Maybe you should do some research on the topic before having this strong of an opinion on it.
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u/xToasted1 May 14 '24
lmao so Gaza is only an independent country when you want to argue about how Israel "withdrew" and therefore it wasn't under occupation?
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u/Pixelology May 14 '24
Lmao what a ridiculous take. Not being militarily occupied is far from being the only requirement for being a sovereign, independent country.
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u/Forward_Wolverine180 May 14 '24 edited May 14 '24
Straight up, the US forced the over throw of Mubarak Egyptians said let’s democratically elect the Muslim brotherhood and the Americans said that’s not the flavour of democracy we like and helped sisi perform a military coup. Americans are the biggest clowns being like
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u/CasedUfa May 14 '24
Totally, oh we didn't realize you would elect the Muslim Brotherhood, that's not going to work for Israel, Democracy revoked.
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u/Forward_Wolverine180 May 14 '24
My favourite democracy was when Saddam killed 250k Iraqis and the Americans said we have to bring democracy by killing 1 million Iraqis!
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u/MinderBinderCapital May 14 '24
US nation building is a recipe for failure
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u/Forward_Wolverine180 May 14 '24
I wouldn’t call it nation building it’s more of nation pacification
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u/CathalKelly May 13 '24
If I say "middle Eastern government that is a basket case and relies on foreign aid to prop it up", guess which country people would assume I'm talking about.
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u/dummypod May 13 '24
Man these middle eastern countries are so unstable for some mysterious reason. I guess they hate Jews so much that they can't keep a firm hold on their own government /s
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u/Decent-Flatworm4425 May 13 '24
Ah, I think you meant to say "shining example of liberal democratic values that blesses foreign nations with investment opportunities and a hands-on approach to military research and development" (/s)
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u/Forward_Wolverine180 May 14 '24
Israel but I’m just pointing out how the Americans have made puppets out of several other middle eastern countries
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u/Elipticalwheel1 May 13 '24
I think the the US needs too tell Isreal that they are on there own on this one, before other country start buying more of there stuff from China, instead of buying from the U.S…ie the U.S is already worried about the motor vehicle trade from China and China is getting stronger by the day.
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u/Forward_Wolverine180 May 14 '24
The US genuinely doesn’t care what Israel does to the Palestinians but they don’t wanna be drawn into a conflict when they’re this worried about china invading Taiwan
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u/atremOx May 14 '24
Too many Christians and leadership in our government. They are obsessed with Israel and art terrified to not support Israel because they think that means that God won’t bless them anymore like God’s fucking blessing us right now anyways.
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u/Elipticalwheel1 May 14 '24
Well there’s something fucking wrong with them, ie Natanyahu and Isreali’s don’t recognise Christian religion, in fact they don’t recognise any religion, ie too them, there is only one religion and one God.
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May 13 '24
Well done Egypt. Hopefully more will join you and the others who are taking this important stand against what Israel has done and is still doing.
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u/No_History7169 May 13 '24
So because another country is causing endless destruction, it should be their responsibility to clean up the mess?
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u/221b42 May 14 '24
How much is Egypt losing with the significant lower transits thru the Suez Canal because of this conflict
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u/turnerpike20 May 14 '24
Egypt is finally taking it seriously thanks to Israel violating the Camp David Accords.
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u/curvycounselor May 14 '24
CAn Egypt not deal with the Israel’s who are blocking aid at the Rafah border?
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u/LaunchTransient May 14 '24
Not really. There's a very uneasy truce at that border, and Egypt is not eager to get involved militarily with Israel again. What enters Gaza is controlled by Israel, Egypt has no say in what crosses that border into Israel.
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u/curvycounselor May 14 '24
And Israel would tell you that Gaza is free and that they left them in 2007.
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u/salkhan May 13 '24
It's all symbolism. Egypt still shills for the US and Israel for the dollars. But in the end these regimes are dependent on the US to maintain power, but the have to show the population they are doing something.
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u/SnooGadgets7506 May 14 '24
The same country that has a giant wall between it and Gaza and refuses to accept any refugees?
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u/Lil_Acid May 15 '24
Has Egypt taken any Palestinian refugees?
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u/Typical-Dinner-9070 May 17 '24
Previously when Israel attacked Palestinians? Yes they have. Palestinians in Gaza are not refugees, it’s their land. Why doesn’t Europe and America take back these settlers who are occupying Palestine?
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u/iHerpTheDerp511 May 13 '24
Why won’t Israel stop ethnically cleansing Palestinians from their native homeland?
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u/couldbeanyonetoday May 14 '24
Groups who support ethnic cleansing and genocide are usually not rational actors nor strong in logical reasoning.
However, if you understand that Israel just wants to steal all the land for themselves, then you see that the Palestinians are an annoyance in the way of that goal, and every other ridiculously over-reaction from Israel starts to make sense. Why there’s a “need” to bomb ~80% of housing in Gaza, why they don’t allow humanitarian aid, why nobody has tried to rescue hostages, why Israelis see Palestinians as sub-human, and why Palestinians are treated so poorly and have been trapped for decades. It’s because the Palestinians are in Israel’s way. And that’s it.
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u/labpadre-lurker May 13 '24
Because it would essentially make them complicit if they were to let Palestinians through, they would be aiding in the mass displacement of a population from a land, regardless of if it could potentially save lives. This is wholly on Israel to stop what they're doing. Not only that, but 10s of thousands, if not 100s of thousands of people surging into the Sinai desert, will be a catastrophe of its own for both populations as its clear that Israel will never let them back to their land.
Abdel Fattah El-Sisi - “Egypt has affirmed, and is reiterating, its vehement rejection of the forced displacement of the Palestinians and their transfer to Egyptian lands in Sinai, as this will mark the last gasp in the liquidation of the Palestinian cause, shatter the dream of an independent Palestinian state, and squander the struggle of the Palestinian people and that of the Arab and Islamic peoples over the course of the Palestinian cause that has endured for 75 years,”
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May 13 '24
How pathetic it is to excuse Israel's murder of Palestinians by saying "They should just leave!"
You're vile and evil and it is my pleasure to inform you that all your evil acts will catch up to you one day.
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u/iamkam- May 13 '24
I’m not saying they should just leave, what I am saying is that it’s quite rich of Egypt to get into the fray on this when Egypt has the ability to save lives but refuses to do so.
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May 13 '24
You're very obviously a disingenuous pro-israel guy so I won't bother explaining how letting in hundreds of thousands of refugees is beyond Egypt's abilities to handle and instead I'll tell you to go back to your telegram chats where you froth at the mouth at dead Palestinians.
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u/Darkraskel90 May 13 '24
It is not a serious question. It is you attempting to get a reaction out of others, as proven by your statement about Mexicans crossing the border. Please take your ignorance elsewhere.
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u/Dagbog May 13 '24
They probably cannot accommodate such a large number and still ensure the well-being of their people. Letting in such a large number of people requires a lot of things, and I assume it would greatly destabilize Egypt
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u/anderel96 May 13 '24
Because Israel doesn’t guarantee that Palestinians who leave will be let back into their homeland
Amnesty International, 2019. “Israel’s refusal to grant Palestinian refugees right to return has fuelled seven decades of suffering”. Link
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The hoops you'll jump through. How often have you looked at photos of dead Palestinian children with glee?
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u/BeamEyes May 13 '24
Why don't the Ukrainians just move to Russia? They're all Christian Slavs, they're basically the same thing, right?
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