r/InternationalNews • u/why_hellow • Mar 09 '24
International From Japan, this is Gaza. «Gaza liberated the world»
A film excerpt by Muhannad Abu Rizk.
“Gaza changed everything about me. A feeling of awakening. I found the ignorance in myself frightening.”
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Mar 09 '24
She is absolutely right. We should have empathy, as though these nightmares were happening to us.
Because if it can happen over there, then it can happen over here.
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u/hggbvfffhjccv Mar 11 '24
Release the hostages and it all ends. I blame Hamas for all of this.
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u/GreyFox-RUH Mar 11 '24
End the 75 year old Israeli occupation which included murder, torture, sexual assault, and expulsion of the occupied Palestinians
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u/hggbvfffhjccv Mar 11 '24
Jews lived in Judea for 16 centuries before Islam ever existed. Stop slaughtering Jews and there will be peace. Unfortunately, Hamas only teaches their children to hate and kill Jews. Golda said it best.
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u/GreyFox-RUH Mar 11 '24
Stop taking other people's land and there will be peace
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u/hggbvfffhjccv Mar 17 '24
Israel left Gaza in 2005 and Hamas installed terror tunnels and planned for five years the slaughter on October 7th. If Hamas didn’t brutally murder, rape, and torture so many innocent people on October 7th, things would be quite different today. Don’t believe all of the antisemitic TikTok propaganda out there. Try reading Dershowitz’s book “The Case for Israel.” A muslim terrorist did and it actually changed his mind.
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u/VladislavusTheGreat Mar 11 '24
Israel did that in 2005. Gaza has been 100% free from Israeli presence since then. It didn't change their ambitions to annihilate Israel at all.
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Mar 17 '24 edited Mar 17 '24
Empathy is not a human emotion that you are capable of feeling. What is it like, to be so antigentilist?
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u/E_BoyMan Mar 10 '24
I'm sure your country won't wage war which it can't win.
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u/BedrBakr Mar 10 '24
Its not a war its an extermination. October 7th was awful. What Israel have done every day since has been an october 7th.
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u/E_BoyMan Mar 10 '24
You don't decide how a country retaliates thats basic War.
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u/BedrBakr Mar 10 '24
I do get to call it a genocide when it is one tho. Great point about it not being my decision. I had wondered why Netanyahu sent the bombs after our call where i told him not to
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u/E_BoyMan Mar 10 '24
"Genocide" new buzzwords by hams sympathisers in this war strted by Hamas.
I wonder what the next buzz word will be.
You guys are crying of genocide since oct 7 🤣.
HAMSA is a military regime which oppresses Palestinians too.
Hamas needs to go first
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u/BedrBakr Mar 10 '24
Israel put the oppressive regime in place. Theyre being burned from both ends and then called animals. Genocide isnt the new buzzword. Its been around a while. Buzzword is the new buzzword. Israels leadership is as bad as a terrorist regime. How fucked is that. Talk about that more
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u/wannaberebelll Mar 11 '24
hamas sympathizers? more like civilian sympathizers. are you sympathizing with murderers, islamophobes and racists?
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u/cantotallytrustme Mar 11 '24
when that country is using weapons we provide it, yes, we get to decide. you scumbag
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u/OfficialHashPanda Mar 10 '24
Who cares whose military started it? The civilians being killed by the bombing and suffering from starvation after having their homes destroyed didn’t start anything.
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u/E_BoyMan Mar 11 '24
"1000 people were murdered at a festival by a foreign government"
"Who cares"
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u/hydroxypcp Estonia Mar 11 '24
"30,000 people, half of them children, have been murderered by an occupying power"
"who cares"
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Mar 11 '24
Here we have a textbook example of the Zionist's complete lack of empathy.
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u/E_BoyMan Mar 11 '24
Here we have people who hate Jews but hide behind the word "Zionist".
Japan was stupid to attack pearl harbour and Hamas was stupid on Oct 7.
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Mar 11 '24
Fuck Israel.
Better?
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u/E_BoyMan Mar 11 '24
Only one country is getting fucked in that region and that's not Israel
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u/GreyFox-RUH Mar 11 '24
No war was waged. A resistance was waged against the 75 year old Israeli occupation. The occupation doubled down
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u/Phyrexian_Supervisor Mar 09 '24
Japanese news does not cover IP well at all, but the Japanese are overall a well traveled and empathetic group. It doesn't surprise me that someone who actually traveled to Gaza would have that kind of whiplash reaction.
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u/ApprehensivePlum1420 Mar 13 '24
Most of Asia (except India due to Islamophobia) are 100% immune to Western-Israel bs. They don’t have the capacity to care but they are definitely weary of imperialism. The West means business to them and nothing more.
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u/PsychLegalMind Mar 10 '24
They can relate to death and destruction. They have some idea. Just in a month [by November 9, 2023] Israel had already dropped the equivalent of two nuclear bombs in a strip of area under 25 miles long considered one of the most populated area in the world. [link below]
According to the Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor, Israel has dropped more than 25,000 tonnes of explosives on the Gaza Strip since October 7, equivalent to two nuclear bombs.
In comparison, the Little Boy nuclear bomb dropped by the United States on Hiroshima during World War II yielded 15,000 tonnes of high explosives and destroyed everything within a one-mile (1.6km) radius.
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u/groovyoung Mar 10 '24
Yes they can related to death and destructions, because in Nanjing they killed 3million Chinese people and never apologized. I guess in reddit people from other asian countries need to endure and suffer from those pro-japan propaganda everyday.
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u/groovyoung Mar 10 '24
You might be correct regarding the tracing back history. but it is totally unaccepted to make the Japanese the victim of WW2 this way, because it is probably okay not to talk about history, but it is absolutely wrong to CHANGE hostory
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u/JungBag Mar 10 '24
There were 500,000 Japanese victims of atomic bombs in WW2. Yes, they were victims of WW2.
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u/cantotallytrustme Mar 12 '24
I mean you understand that Japan was allied with the Nazis right? Do you know anything about Japanese history?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_7311
u/JungBag Mar 12 '24
The Japanese who were killed by the atomic bombs were civilians. The same thing happened to them as is happening right now in Palestine. Mass slaughter of innocent civilians.
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u/cantotallytrustme Mar 12 '24
that’s not what I was debating. the comment I was replying to said Japan was a victim of WWII, which ignores millions of deaths caused by Japanese forces as well as the fact that they were allied with Hitler
many people, Americans especially, tend to forget or never even understand this in the first place
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u/groovyoung Mar 10 '24
And yet they never aplogize to the victims of its invasion in other Asian countries, what irony.
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Mar 11 '24
Who is they? The victims in question were the civilians that the US incinerated, not the soldiers who committed those massacres, much less the emperor and his generals who actually made the decisions. Honestly you sound just like the Israeli government right now, arguing for the collective punishment of a civilian population because of what their leadership/military did.
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u/cantotallytrustme Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 12 '24
You're really incredibly ignorant if you have forgotten what the Japanese did to all of Asia even before WWII. Please read about it:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre
200,000 deaths, 50,000 rapes, babies thrown in the air and caught on bayonetts. Japan has never apologised for anything it did to China or Korea.
edit: downvotes even with a link showing it's all true. Y'all are fucking stupid.
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u/hydroxypcp Estonia Mar 11 '24
👆 Zionist mindset. "you murdered, so we have carte blanche". How sick is that?
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u/cantotallytrustme Mar 12 '24
It's possible to be against the United States foreign policy as well as Japan's. Incredible, I know.
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u/OfficialHashPanda Mar 10 '24
Both side’s civilians had many victims. What should a japanese civilian who had nothing to do with the war apologize for?
If my country commits a war crime somewhere, that’s not my fault. That’s not something I am apologizing for.
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u/groovyoung Mar 10 '24
I guess many modern USA white citizen think the same way as you to the native americans who were killed during hundreds years ago. And modern Germany people should stop mourning for the Jews killed during WW2. Why? Because it is important to show attitude no matter if you are not the people who execute the killing but their descendents. You probably wouldn’t know
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u/OfficialHashPanda Mar 10 '24
Many people think the same way you do. They do it out of habit, tradition… no critical thinking is involved. When I reason about my actions, I don’t see a reason to apologize for something I had no part in.
I’m not an American though, I’m a European. Every year we have 2 minutes of silence for those who died in ww2. I participate in that silence mostly, but I would never apologize for anyone else’s actions that caused those deaths. It would not be a genuine apology, it would lack any value.
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u/groovyoung Mar 10 '24
Well said. An apology that is not genuine doesn’t have any value. Many survivers of thr jananese attacks didn’t live long enough to get a genuine apology. What unfair irony the decendents of the perpetrators want to forget and get rid of the debt while the decendents of the victims want to remember and can never get out of the pain and shame.
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u/cantotallytrustme Mar 11 '24
it's not about your apology. It's about dismantling the systems that are still in place that led to the wrongs committed-- systems you probably benefit from.
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u/groovyoung Mar 11 '24
Exactly, you said what I have difficulties to describe
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u/cantotallytrustme Mar 11 '24
it’s taken me a while to get to where I can explain this to people who don’t understand that the systems persist
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Mar 11 '24
So should native people apologize for killing other native tribes? Should the Jewish people apologize for exterminating other ancient groups? Everyone’s ancestors are guilty of something if you go back far enough. Human history is quite brutal after all.
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u/PsychLegalMind Mar 10 '24
Yes they can related to death and destructions
This is about what is going on in Gaza and West Bank, not about what happened during world wars. If you want to talk about those wars even, start a new post.
Even then, you should start with who sacrificed the most to fight the Germans and its allies. That would be the Russian sacrifices. Have a degree of decency and do not detract from the plight of the Palestinians today. Shameful.
After you get done with that make sure to add a postscript paragraph about the atrocities against Uyghur afoot today in China as well.
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u/groovyoung Mar 10 '24 edited Mar 10 '24
so you know much about uyghur huh? Uyghur here and Uyghur there, it always shows up when discussing anything with a Chinese. Do you really care about them or just use them as a argueing tool? I belive the Uyghur are more than that.
To tell you, I am from Uyghur region and we two races live in peace. China doesn't become Western countries's dogs so it was criticized no matter what we do. Are you trying to bring up other topics such chinese spy, abused workers, dictatorship, young people no freedom of speech, I can list them for you to save your time.
Tell you what? A old saying from China goes: ' you can also find excuses if you wan to sentence someone'. We have seen too much, do you think the chinese people really care? Yes, we do get angry but in the end we don't care about your opinion because you are biased. However, Japanese being the bad guys has to be known by the whole world.
If you praise japan, take all the credits what they have done and don't try to apart it from what they are now. I mean, they are not good even now, think about the nuclear water dumping!
Japanese people making videos for Gaza people is a good thing, but don't just try to slip something fishy here, like what you did here mentioning they can relate to death and destruction and trying to make them WW2 victims! That's totally different.
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u/PsychLegalMind Mar 10 '24
don't care about your opinion because you are biased.
If you desire to be objective in your opinions review my past comments [and there are many] about being supportive of China, as well as its economy and a world power and creating a balanced world, so we can have peace instead of world hegemony of U.S.
Even very recently because I noted that it was the foreign minister of China who said to send arms to Palestinians so they can defend themselves.
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u/groovyoung Mar 10 '24
Really? Sending troops to other countries and join the fights is totally not a Chinese government thing. We believe the not interferenpolicy. Perhaps the support will come in other format
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u/PsychLegalMind Mar 10 '24
Really?
[Arms and Troops are not the same thing]. Yes, it has also done so for Pakistan for decades. Need to brush up on your history.
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u/groovyoung Mar 10 '24
For Pakistan yes I know we help them, but I never heard anything China will send troops to Palestine. Maybe you are refering to the UN force where Chinese soilders are in the serve?
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u/PsychLegalMind Mar 10 '24
Some day try looking up the words and note the difference between arms and troops.
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u/tkhrnn Mar 10 '24
And Japan surrendered. As POS Japan was at the time. They at least somewhat cared about their people. Yet Hamas refuses to bring peace to the Palestinians people.
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u/PsychLegalMind Mar 10 '24
Japan surrendered.
There was only one nuclear power then. The world now is a different place. Back then also UK along with US carved out Arab land to create Israel. Ever since that day till now Israel has encroached more and more territories. There has been no Palestine despite multiple mandates.
Now, everyone with half a functioning brain cell knows there will not be any peace without a contiguous totally sovereign Palestine. The only Israeli ally; U.S. realizes that the real obstacle is Netanyahu and his regime that opposes the two-state solution and always has and it is not in U.S. interest anymore. And like Biden said, on hot mic he told Netanyahu is about to have a come to Jesus moment. Hamas is merely a pretext when in its early days Netanyahu help fund to divide PLA now it has come back to haunt him.
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“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that, before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East."
- Fr. John Sheehan of the Jesuit order
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u/tkhrnn Mar 10 '24
"Arab land" and how did they aquire that land?
Sure Netanyahu doesn't want Palestinian state. But dam did Palestinians made sure to empower this position at every chance.
I got downvoted because I suggested Hamas should surrender. You don't get to cry about war when you want war.
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u/PsychLegalMind Mar 10 '24
Read world history and how Israel was carved out of Arab lands. The war on Palestinian occupied lands started more than 75 years ago.
Israel continues to expand its illegal occupation today, starving women and children including by illegal settlers that the entire world including the US has condemned.
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u/tkhrnn Mar 10 '24
Yeah, maybe you shouldn't start a wars. If you start a war, I am not going to feel bad about some land you lost. Do you think Palestinians are animal that aren't responsible for their own actions?
Starving where? Today in Gaza? No shit, war is terrible, don't start it.
And fuck the settlement, I can say it because I am not a bot repeating propaganda.
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u/PsychLegalMind Mar 10 '24
Yeah, maybe you shouldn't start a wars.
Palestinians did not start the wars, but they will finish it with the help of the world at large. The world is increasingly with them. Netanyahu's regime, on the other hand, is increasingly isolated because of its atrocity that the UN has condemned; finding already indications of genocide. Take it up with the UN and the world court.
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u/CuntestedThree Mar 10 '24
Lol UN and the world court won’t do a fucking thing, they’re utterly toothless. Palestine won’t be finishing any war
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u/LeninMeowMeow Mar 10 '24
Being under a blockade for multiple decades is not "peace". A blockade is an act of war.
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u/tkhrnn Mar 10 '24
So, did you use the new Hamas AI propaganda tool? No shit there is a blockade, The best way to justify it, is a terror attack from the other side.
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u/LeninMeowMeow Mar 10 '24 edited Mar 10 '24
Toolbag says this shit while doing israeli propaganda supporting a genocide.
edit: destiny subreddit. lmao figures. Hope you liberals realise you've lost all ability to pretend to be moral humans forever now. We've entered a new age and the curtain has been pulled back on you all.
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u/Lutra_Lovegood Mar 11 '24
Had to read up on him because I keep forgetting who Destiny even is. His quote on the conflict is a big yikes, not surprised his sub has a lot of xylophonists.
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Was Germany a recognized state? After the war, did Germany remain a recognized state? How long did Germany suffer under occupation and blockades after.
Zionazis on here comparing Germany and Japan like idiots, not even realizing that they are examples of why Palestine is clearly being treated differently.
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The key difference between Germany and Hamas is that Germany was a state, with an army that had aspirations of global domination and wiped out thousands of innocents to achieve that agenda. Hamas is a resistance group with aspirations of stopping the group that has violently oppressed their people for almost a century. Simply not comparable. Israel however, is a state, with an army, that has aspirations of domination (colonist state) and is wiping out thousands of innocents to achieve that agenda. 2 of these groups are actually alike.
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So you don’t deny the obvious differences between Hamas and Nazi Germany, you also don’t refute with evidence the clear similarities between Israel and Nazi German. We agree, you just don’t like it.
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u/JesusSaidAllah Mar 10 '24
The audio of the video, as text:
Gaza changed everything about me. A feeling of awakening.
I found the ignorance in myself frightening. Israel committing such atrocities, and the countries and people supporting it, are frightening. But realizing I knew nothing about this was the scariest part.
There are those who derive pleasure from massacring others. There are many who remain indifferent to massacres happening in other countries.
Many friends no longer feel like friends. Countries I once wanted to visit like America and Europe have become places I no longer wish to go.
I realized how capable I am of feeling anger towards someone or something. For over 100 days, I've been sad and angry.
But the people of Palestine have felt this way for over 75 years and we must not forget that.
I want everyone to empathize as if it were happening to them
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u/electric_too_fast Mar 10 '24
See this is a people that remembers history and learnt from it.
Germany and Israel though. Just horrible.
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u/Napsitrall Mar 10 '24
Imagine thinking that Japan regards its history in ww2 better than Germany...
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u/electric_too_fast Mar 10 '24
All Germany did is lip service and performative if they cannot see what Israel has and is doing to the Palestinians is from the playbook of Nazis.
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u/Napsitrall Mar 10 '24
Japan literally builds temples glorifying their war criminals and has a whole culture and education system of denial regarding comfort women, Unit 731, actions in South Asia, etc...
And it's not like Japan is super pro-Palestine on the UN votes either.
Actual brainrot
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u/electric_too_fast Mar 10 '24
Japan literally builds temples glorifying their war criminals and has a whole culture and education system of denial regarding comfort women, Unit 731, actions in South Asia, etc...
No one said they are perfect.
But they are better than Germany in this regard.
You can keep weeping about them building shrines related to Showa. By this supreme stroke of logic (more stroke less logic), no one can say anything cuz every country has some statue, painting or street named after a racist or depraved piece of shit.
And it's not like Japan is super pro-Palestine on the UN votes either.
And this confirms how little you actually understand. This isn't a sports game, you absolute chump.
You don't just implicitly support one side over the other fanatically (aka Germany).
You get awarded for having the backbone to say the right thing. No matter how much imbeciles yell it's wrong.
Japan openly supports a two state solution. Something Israel is hell bent against no matter how much performative double talk they do.
Germany can't even figure out that the phrase "from the river to sea" is from the Likud charter.
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u/Terrible-Tap6991 Mar 10 '24
Yeah….no Japan is in denial mode about their history. Preferring to not dwell on it too much or generalize it to a “war is terrible” “bad things happen in war” kind of conclusion.
https://amp.dw.com/en/how-japan-confronts-its-haunting-world-war-ii-history/a-66538731
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u/electric_too_fast Mar 10 '24
Country A, is OPENLY ashamed of their history and goes out of their way to defend Israel due to that guilt.
Country B, is doesn't look too closely at their dark past but can call someone out when they see someone else echoing those same sentiments.
Country A (Germany) didn't really learn it's lesson then and just reacting to it's bad shit. Country B (japan) is actually trying to prevent it from happening again.
Germany, not only did they side with israel in the ICJ they threatened to take actions on the countries that took Israel to court.
From the Shoah to the Nakba, Germany made the wrong call.
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Mar 10 '24 edited Mar 10 '24
Yes this is true and shameful, but this is not all japanese.
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u/Wehadababyitsaboiii Mar 10 '24
And not all Russians support the invasion of Ukraine and not all Israelis support the genocide in Gaza.
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u/Discussion-is-good Mar 10 '24
It makes me sad that she would let our governments support of Isreal ruin the idea of visiting. US or Europe.
However, I get it. I wish I could speak to this women. Let her know that many people in the US and Europe see this disproportionate assault for what it truly is. We're not all monsters.
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u/Nazuchan Mar 10 '24
It’s because our countries rely on the suffering of others so that they, and we, can benefit. Our food, clothes, technology. Underneath every little modern convenience a human being was taken advantage of to produce it. But the thing is Japan isn’t much different since they also benefit, although they don’t have a military anymore
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u/lgot_hacked Mar 10 '24
one bright side to this is that there has never been as much support from western people, or even the israelis themselves towards palestinians as there is now.
many people realize how unfair it is but dont speak up because of how controversial it is.
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u/ElboRexel Mar 10 '24
public opinion is greatly inclined towards the Israeli narrative.
That's simply not true; public opinion in Japan is generally negative about Israel and it has significantly decreased in recent months.
Net favorability—the percentage of people viewing Israel positively after subtracting the percentage viewing it negatively—dropped globally by an average of 18.5 percentage points between September and December, decreasing in 42 out of the 43 countries polled.
China, South Africa, Brazil, and several other countries in Latin America all went from viewing Israel positively to negatively. And many rich countries that already had net negative views of Israel—including Japan, South Korea, and the U.K.—saw steep declines. Net favorability in Japan went from -39.9 to -62.0; in South Korea from-5.5 to -47.8; and in the U.K. from -17.1 to -29.8.
https://time.com/6559293/morning-consult-israel-global-opinion/
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I love that the people responding to you are using links with facts and evidence and you are just throwing out rhetoric. Perfectly summarizes the entire dispute, reasonable fact based positions on one side and just shouting the same lies over and over on the other side.
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Sure. It’s almost like there’s more than one side to the story.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/japans-itochu-to-end-cooperation-with-israels-elbit-amid-gaza-war/
https://en.mehrnews.com/news/212169/Thousands-march-in-Tokyo-to-protest-Israeli-genocide-in-Gaza
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u/hggbvfffhjccv Mar 10 '24
Assad killed 600,000 people. Over 400,000 died in Yemen’s civil war. It’s ok when Arabs kill Arabs apparently but the world doesn’t like it when Jews defend themselves. The Jewish people experienced the greatest loss of life since the Holocaust on October 7th and must defend Israel from terrorists like Hamas. Some of the other prosperous Arab countries want Hamas eradicated as well because terrorists are a threat across the globe. Am Israel Chai.
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u/MukoMadara Mar 10 '24
Dude stfu. Oct 7th this. Oct 7th that. They are freedom fighters fck off their land. If you dont like it. Go to EU or Usa
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u/nekojitaa Mar 10 '24
Jews aren't defending themselves in Israel. They created this conflict by taking the land, oppressing the natives of that land, and now crying when the resistance fights back....
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u/wannaberebelll Mar 11 '24
whataboutism is all you know. arabs and muslims experience great losses of life everyday and you do not care. you only bring up other tragedies to excuse this one. very inhumane behaviour.
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u/Large_Ad1350 Mar 11 '24
Thanks for the compliment .
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u/wannaberebelll Mar 11 '24
disgusting
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u/Large_Ad1350 Mar 11 '24
Hating islam isnot disgusting . Islam ruined many people lifes mine too .
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u/wannaberebelll Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24
hating islam or religion as a whole is one thing. being islamophobic and prejudiced against muslims is another.
i’m actually an avid supporter of ex-muslims who feel wronged by islam. commented on a guy’s post yesterday in saudi arabia who is stuck with his abusive muslim family. called out fellow muslims for calling him a liar. i understand islam is harmful to many, like all religions are but being an islamophobe is disgusting. being bigoted in any way is disgusting.
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u/Large_Ad1350 Mar 11 '24
There is no difference between islam teachings and what most muslims believe in . So why should i love people who want me dead because i left their religion ? Do u ask a jew to love nazis or black person to love the kkk ?
I just dont like them that is all . I would change my mind when they change their way of thinking .
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u/wannaberebelll Mar 11 '24
you’re generalizing all people. queer muslims exist, people like me exist. not every muslim wants you dead. but wtv i won’t care about someone who hates me or my people. i don’t wear a hijab, i’m certain there are deranged men who’d want me dead, i don’t generalize all followers of islam as the same.
your hatred is your own problem. every member of the KKK knew what they were signing up for. every nazi willingly followed the regime. your idea that every muslim hates you is quite frankly your problem and untrue. if you see a group of children outside a mosque, would you think they hate you? hope you find peace fr.
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u/Large_Ad1350 Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24
Well i said most Not the 3 queer muslims living somewhere in the west .
So the kkk know what they signed for but somehow muslims donot know what they believe in ? Stupid argument .
Whatever you say girl at the end ot the day you cant hide that islam is a hatful religion maybe you will learn that the hard way who knows .
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u/wannaberebelll Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24
can’t argue a hateful bigot. again, you just assume a group of muslim children would hate you? you’re equating groups whose whole purpose was to cause harm to islam, a religion that has over a billion practicers. it’s bound to be a diverse crowd. progressive muslims exist. queer muslims exists (yes, more than three). you quite literally just discounted sooooo many queer muslims and their experiences.
you also said whomp whomp (13 y/o boy vernacular fr) on a video about gaza. you’re equating a humanitarian crisis to your hatred of islam. despicable all around. but then again, can’t argue a bigot. stay bitter and hateful i guess.
eta: i’ve been to queer events, met queer muslims, queer exmuslims (who shocker! i didn’t want dead), my first guy friend in high school was muslim and gay. stop projecting.
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u/E_BoyMan Mar 10 '24
They should stop bombing after hostages are returned, before that, don't care much
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Israel has quite literally killed more Israeli hostages than it has rescued. It’s been 5 months. They have one of the wealthiest most technically advanced militaries on the planet but carry out zero special hostage retrieval operations. They can show you the ass hair on a terrorist using thermal imaging, but can’t find hostages. These are facts. And you’re still acting like hostages matter? They probably hate the hostages the same way they hate Holocaust survivors for “being weak”.
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u/E_BoyMan Mar 10 '24
COD isn't real.
Why isn't the government of palestine returning them ? Or do they like to get bombed ?
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Because the Israeli government has thousands of Palestinian hostages, including women, children and elderly. Hostages that are being tortured, raped and abused. Hamas does not want to return hostages, they want to exchange them. Israel, who kill more hostages than they save, don’t actually care even a little about hostages and they cringe at returning even one of their Palestinian child sex toys.
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u/E_BoyMan Mar 10 '24
"Palestine hostages" you mean literally terrorists and criminals who get caught every year??
Hamas propaganda ate your brain. Comparing kidnapped citizens to actual criminals who get caught occasionally
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Mar 10 '24
No I mean prisoners. Like children, elderly, people who are disabled. Ones who are kidnapped from their homes in the night and held for days, weeks, months in prisons without charge. Forced through a racist apartheid based kangaroo court system. Tortured until they admit to crimes they didn’t commit just to be able to have a chance of eventually returning to their humble and slowly and less painfully torturous life in Palestine. Hamas propaganda. No. Facts, documented by numerous international human rights and legal agencies around the globe.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/palestinians-prison-rights-violence-1.7043182
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u/E_BoyMan Mar 11 '24
"human right agencies" al Jazeera amnesty 🤣🤣
If Hamas wants to stop this war they can return hostages without any conditions. But we have terrorist sympathisers to cover for them.
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Mar 11 '24
Multiple links there cupcake. Including from human right watch and amnesty international. The Al Jazeera article has multiple links to human rights org articles as well, something you’d know if you had the nerve to read the facts. Knowledge is the enemy of racism, so you avoid it.
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Mar 10 '24
Where is your empathy for Nanjing victims?
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Mar 10 '24
Really? That’s the first thing that comes to your mind watching this? Seems motivated
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Mar 10 '24
I sympathize with Palestinians.
But I have family who died in Nanjing. So fuck you.
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Mar 10 '24
You took the wrong lesson away from it
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Mar 10 '24
I only learned what hypocrisy is, and am calling it out.
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Mar 10 '24
For all you know the speaker feels the exact same way, you’re holding her responsible for an entire nation’s behavior because you feel the need to center your own feelings in a discussion of genocide. Get a grip.
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Mar 10 '24
Tell that to the people calling for justice in Nanjing and totally silenced because China is the "bad guy" now.
Tell that to the Japanese ultras in power who censor any mention of their nation's war crimes.
Tell that to the US which continues to protect Japanese war criminals from facing justice.
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Mar 10 '24
And in lieu of being able to hold the monsters responsible, you choose a little girl who’s talking about the horror of watching a genocide in real-time. Do you think this is productive?
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Mar 10 '24
All people who only care about "current thing" just like you
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Mar 10 '24
Instead of holding random Japanese citizens responsible for the crimes of imperial Japan, you’d be better served drawing these connections between different historical atrocities out for people. You have an inside perspective on how atrocities are rehabilitated by empires, and we do need it.
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u/Discussion-is-good Mar 10 '24
Tell that to the people calling for justice in Nanjing and totally silenced because China is the "bad guy" now.
Hey, American with a bias against China here, I hate the government, not you, my fellow human presumably from China.
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u/Discussion-is-good Mar 10 '24
She also did this for two continents though. Like I agree with you, but she did it as well.
If the commentor you're replying to really lost family is that atrocity, they have just as much right to be upset with Japanese people as a Gazan upset with Isreal imo.
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Mar 10 '24
Does Japan control Nanjing now? It was a terrible crime but the Japanese were rightfully kicked out of China for their imperialism.
The Japanese government is absolutely guilty for that but individual citizens today may not agree at all with what happened 90 years ago.
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u/PsychLegalMind Mar 10 '24
I sympathize with Palestinians.
As do I and stand up against atrocities that occur today and am familiar with the Nanking massacre rape and pillage; Yet, one must not ever blame someone innocent for the massacre in Nanking.
This is the true meaning of "Never Again" it is not reserved for one people; it applies to all; and today the atrocities occur in Gaza. We must condemn that without reservations, and it does not detract from the past horrors. It gives meaning to it.
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u/why_hellow Mar 10 '24
Perhaps you should consider making a separate post about the Nanjing massacre.
I have spoken on the Nanjing massacre multiple times in my life. I care about all the suffering in the world that I’m aware of.
This is not the argument you think it is. Whataboutism, whataboutery, redherring, and other fallacious rhetorical strategies are bad faith. They only serve to evade or distract from the current topic.
FYI, ad hominem argumentation lies near the bottom end of the Hierarchy of Disagreement. Here’s a picture of the pyramid for your reference:
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u/LeninMeowMeow Mar 10 '24
If you think the kind of person supporting Palestine is also going to simp for those massacres you deeply do not understand left vs right politics in Japan.
The fascists never really stopped ruling Japan after ww2 and they have ruled almost uninterrupted for 70 years. Japanese elections have only 50% turnout. Most of the population does not view them as worth bothering with. They are deeply unpopular, but there is no expectation that voting would ever change anything because there is little belief that the system is legitimate.
The assassination of Shinzo Abe was extremely popular.
There is absolutely no way this woman thinks massacring anyone in China was a good thing, and you acting like she would do just demonstrates an absurd misunderstanding of the Japanese political landscape.
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u/Lutra_Lovegood Mar 11 '24
The assassination of Shinzo Abe was extremely popular.
It was? I had no idea. Do you have a source in English about it? I still can't read Japanese and only know about its politics from historical tidbits and some pop-culture.
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