r/InformedTankie • u/fireba11s • May 01 '21
Debunking ⛔ Western Media never shows the Tank Man Leaving- Even today millions in the West thought he just died then and there
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u/MelissusOfSamos May 02 '21
Solid evidence that the "Tiananmen Square massacre" never actually happened. A small number of people died after initiating violence against the military but the only intent of the security services was to break up the demonstrations. If they were massacring people, why didn't they just run this guy over?
The entire world's media was covering these protests. They had cameras all over. Western sources claimed 3,000-10,000 died but their videos only show a few dozen. Official government estimate was 300 (including soldiers).
An essential part of propaganda is placing undue weight on insignificant events while ignoring huge events. China's human rights (both in domestic and foreign policy) is incomparably better than the West's.
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u/Boardindundee Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Gonzaloist-Dengist May 02 '21
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u/MelissusOfSamos May 02 '21
I'm disappointed because your article cites some protestors without including my favourite quote:
"What do we want? Nike shoes." - Wu’er Kaixi, student leader.
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u/fireba11s May 02 '21
It's narrative construction, West has its paws on a series of images and makes them into God tier bait, then frames it so that any thing China states that understands from the absurb Western claim is shaded with suspicion. Btw? Chinese Boomers and netizens talks about this all the time, they just called it 64, Liusi, literally meaning June 4
And yes, violence did break out but not in the square but in the districts around it, where previous night the rioters started killing and lynching soldiers, setting them on fire and setting tanks and APCs on fire. That's why the governement responded. And no, not to kill as many as possible, cuz its counter productive, their main goal was dispersal. So they ordered APCs into the square while shooting in the air to scare people off.
Most of the soldiers and rioters that were killed were on the busy streets and highways, just google "Tiananmen Burned soldiers," or "Tiananmen Burned Tanks" they were not in the SQ itself.
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u/Boardindundee Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Gonzaloist-Dengist May 02 '21
In the early days of the protests, the students even went as far as to cordon off their own protests so that the hoi polloi couldn’t protest with them. An eyewitness recounts his experience:
The marchers on the periphery of the parade held pink colored packaging twine that circumscribed the marchers. It was meant to exclude anyone else. If you weren’t a student from that particular school, you couldn’t just join in their march. They didn’t even want anyone marching beside them: I walked a block maybe, asking questions about what their demands were and what they hoped to achieve, and was basically told to bugger off. [7]
Nevertheless, protests went on despite these tensions, and the students were surprised to find that there existed a good deal of sympathy for them, both from the general public and from the government itself (as evidenced by sympathetic editorials in newspapers). And so the nature of the demands began to shift. Hardliners within the protest movement began to speak of going beyond addressing corruption and price controls, and started speaking of overthrowing the government. A standout figure among them was Chai Ling, a 23-year-old woman critical of the Beijing Students’ Autonomous Union, which she criticized for lacking “leadership quality” and opposing hunger strikes. She considered herself the uncompromising “chief commander” of the square. [8]
Evidence suggests that this was not an organic development. Embedded within the leadership of the student movement and working closely with Chai Ling was the CIA’s man in China, Gene Sharp, who wrote the book on “color revolutions” for the United States. Sharp even had the audacity to smear the worker and union activists at Tiananmen as CPC agent provocateurs in later interviews:
Earlier that afternoon, we had heard a very provocative speech on a loudspeaker by a so-called “autonomous workers’ union” calling for violence against troops: “Don’t let any soldiers escape! Kill them all!”
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u/MelissusOfSamos May 02 '21
Wikileaks obtained some diplomatic cables about this and it shows the West were aware of the real situation but lied for propaganda purposes:
The army came up against "an elaborate system of blockades", described in a cable from May 21, 1989, which allowed students to "control much of central Beijing". Diplomats observed that "there were buses turned sideways to form roadblocks" and students had vowed the army would not be able to cross.
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"He watched the military enter the square and did not observe any mass firing of weapons into the crowds, although sporadic gunfire was heard. He said that most of the troops which entered the square were actually armed only with anti-riot gear – truncheons and wooden clubs; they were backed up by armed soldiers," a cable from July 1989 said.
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Leaders of the protest, including Liu Xiaobo, the winner of last year's Nobel Peace prize, urged the students to depart the square, and the Chilean diplomat relayed that "once agreement was reached for the students to withdraw, linking hands to form a column, the students left the square through the south east corner." The testimony contradicts the reports of several journalists who were in Beijing at the time, who described soldiers "charging" into unarmed civilians and suggests the death toll on the night may be far lower than the thousands previously thought.
In 2009, James Miles, who was the BBC correspondent in Beijing at the time, admitted that he had "conveyed the wrong impression" and that "there was no massacre on Tiananmen Square. Protesters who were still in the square when the army reached it were allowed to leave after negotiations with martial law troops
That article was published in 2011. In 2017 (and probably still now) the BBC (the dirt worst imperialist propaganda outlet) was still claiming the insane 10,000 figure.
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u/argamos May 01 '21
In my country we learn that the tank stopped, something something the strength of a protest is to awaken humanity in those following orders
Do people really think he died?
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May 01 '21
sadly, yes. i’m american and that is what i was taught in school and believed until a couple of years ago.
knowing better now, it’s been a useful story for cracking the brainwashing among the liberals in my life.
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u/CinnamonArmin Jul 18 '21
I’d like to add that the tank attempted to turn to go around him, but he ran in front of it again.
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u/ATRUECOMMUNIST NKVD, open up! May 01 '21
I’m confused what’s going on here what order are the pictures in
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u/LingoKitKat May 01 '21
I still don't know if that man asking the tanks to leave the Square or go back to the Square
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u/fireba11s May 01 '21
If that's true it might be the biggest Plot twists ever
Captain America Hail Hydra moment (...for libshits):
"MOTHERFUCKERS, GO BACK AND MOP THEM UP"
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May 02 '21
Don’t give them ideas or someone’s going to ask the UN to send in delegates to start an investigation.
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u/freelancenose97 May 01 '21
The full video is kinda dumb, also. Is like watching a old video where your younger dumber brother keeps standing in your front, trying to make you mad, knowing you can't hit them...