r/Hasan_Piker • u/bloodmonarch 🔻 • 16d ago
Mangione’s Attorney: The Supreme Court says all these rich billionaires can give all kind of money to candidates and that’s free speech. So maybe these people were exercising their right to free speech..
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u/Boricuacookie “There is no hope” - norm finkelstein 16d ago
This lawyer cooked that last comment so well GOD DAMN
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u/ThatIowanGuy 15d ago
I didn’t expect the CEO assassination to become a My Cousin Vinny-esque law comedy but I’m all here for it.
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u/toeknee88125 Politics Frog 🐸 16d ago
We all know he did it.
It's just some of us think it's good what he did.
Health insurance companies when they work optimally take more money from the public in aggregate than they pay out in the insurance claims. They need to cover overhead and administrative costs and still generate a profit.
Inherently this is an exploitive industry.
But they go further than this and find excuses to deny Medical Care for a bunch of reasons sometimes as small as paperwork errors.
They work hard to try to essentially steal the insurance premiums that people have paid under the expectation that they will get medical coverage.
How many families have allowed a loved one to die because insurance coverage has been denied and they made the choice to allow the loved one to die to avoid medical bankruptcy?
How many families have made the opposite choice and chosen to pay out of pocket after having their insurance claim denied and gone bankrupt for medical reasons and live the rest of their life in squalor?
Sometimes vigilante murders are justified. Not legally but morally.
Jury nullification exists.
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u/DangerouslyCheesey 16d ago
This is a weak angle. Just hit them with the truth. Thompson and rich people like him choose death and impoverishment for the American people every day and my client said enough is enough.
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u/SpezModdedRJailbait 16d ago
That would not be acting in his clients best interests. If he said that the best case scenario would be a mistrial because thats essentially a confession
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u/DangerouslyCheesey 16d ago
Yeah for sure, but that angle is the better one. Go after the ceo as the real criminal.
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u/SpezModdedRJailbait 16d ago
Courts dont create law. they (poorly) enforce existing law.
The ceo is dead. Theres not a lot else that can be done lol.
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u/chiefgreenleaf 15d ago
The better angle in the court of public opinion maybe, but his lawyer was hired to try to win the actual court case.
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u/Pistonenvy2 15d ago
this would be a great strategy if you wanted your client to get life in prison, possibly execution.
they arent there to debate the morality of murder, they are only there to determine if he is the one who did it. there is no self defense angle, there is no "vigilante justice is good actually" angle. the guy walked up behind a man and shot him in the back like a dog. if you think any court in america is going to look at that and go "you know what, that was a good thing you did. go free, matter of fact here take some money. i like your moxie lets get you a job too" youre delusional.
the system is designed to do one single thing. put people in prison, the lawyer knows how to navigate that system better than you.
right and wrong doesnt matter, there is legal and illegal, that is all the court cares about. as far as the judge is concerned hes going to wonder if the CEO killer is gonna take him out next and at the end of the day the judge is one of the few people whos opinion actually matters.
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u/DangerouslyCheesey 15d ago
He had a manifesto and the murder weapon in his backpack, I’m not sure casting reasonable doubt was high on his priority list.
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u/Pistonenvy2 15d ago
lawyers get people off with more evidence than this all the time thats my point, thats how our justice system works.
"just say you did it and murder is actually based and cool bro theyll agree its fine" like wtf are you talking about?
its plausible deniability. if you can convince a jury a coincidence occurred it doesnt really matter what you did or didnt do, it matters what the prosecution can prove. can they prove he used that gun to kill brian? can they prove that manifesto is related to that murder? if not they have gun charges, not murder charges.
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u/DangerouslyCheesey 15d ago
Yeah sorry he’s speaking in hypotheticals about free speech when I think speaking in hypotheticals about body counts would be more effective. “These CEOs got rich killing thousands of innocent Americans, maybe someone got tired of it and wanted to save the American people”. I don’t actually think he should or would say his client did it.
I realize I didn’t phrase it like that in my first post, my bad.
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u/Pistonenvy2 15d ago
ok, i see what youre saying. that makes sense to me i just think it could potentially be detrimental to the case. i think he probably wants to distance his client from the crime as much as possible and making statements like "my client didnt do this, but if he DID it would have been a good thing overall because of XYZ" doesnt really accomplish that lol
i see your intentions tho. youre heart is in the right place it just think thats more a thing for us to do than homies lawyer. thats all
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u/stonedunikid 16d ago
I can't tell if I love or hate this lawyer so far, very strange character