r/Global_News_Hub • u/justin_quinnn • 1d ago
What Does It Mean to Be Palestinian Now?
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/what-does-it-mean-to-be-palestinian-now/12
u/robmon505 1d ago
The last of God's people
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u/Whole_vibe121 15h ago
Palestinian liberty isn’t a crime, but mass murder is.
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u/LooseAd7981 15h ago
Oct 7 certainly was a heinous crime that required a swift and overwhelming response.
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u/Whole_vibe121 15h ago
Every other day for 7 decades is ethnic cleansing Oct 7th is just their latest excuse.
They’ve murdered hundreds of journalists why?
They’ve murdered tens of thousands of innocent children to save 12 hostages why?
Why are Israeli prisons full of Palestinians?
Why does Israel occupy, Palestine, Syria, Egypt and Lebanon?
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u/LooseAd7981 14h ago
You know there are two sides to this long conflict and you surely know of the many vicious, unprovoked and completely illegal attacks by palestinians and other Arab states over the decades?
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u/Whole_vibe121 13h ago
You’re a lazy lazy propagandist.
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u/Whole_vibe121 8h ago
You’re still being lazy, I never said one thing that even the most delusional Zionist could call antisemitism 😂
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u/Local-Personality-53 13h ago
Palestinians should consider to get Jordanian citizenship, since Jordan is a Palestinian state. 70% of British Mandate was assigned to Jordan.
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u/CheyenneDove 9h ago
Or Israel could just commit to a fair political solution that ends the occupation, allowing Palestinians self determination on their own land. Not sure why the Palestinians have to suffer in this scenario. The entire Arab world has committed to protect Israel if they end the occupation in the Arab Peace Proposal, which would also end all Palestinian resistance and dissolve Hamas.
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u/GiverOfDarwinAwards 1d ago
Exactly what it meant to be German while the Allies were pulverising the Nazis and carpet bombing German cities.
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u/naoiseh 1d ago
Moron
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u/GiverOfDarwinAwards 1d ago
Let’s compare Einsatzgruppen and Hamas shall we? Won’t be a pleasant comparison, I promise you.
We can start with “going door to door, yanking out families and executing kids in front of parents, parents in front of kids, innovating in personal methods of torture”.
The Einsatzgruppen were a big reason why Nazis’ evil was considered an existential problem and the Allies decided to liquidate the Axis.
And what do you know, Hamas are part of The Axis. The Palestinians are today’s Germans of 1944, at the end game of the Reich/Gaza.
History doesn’t repeat, but it rhymes.
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u/HandsomeBWunderbar 1d ago
One of the dumbest and most reductive comments anyone will read regarding Nazi crimes against humanity. Conflating Hamas with the Third Reich is the most absurd historical revisionism.
Conflating Palestinian people with the Nazi's while they're being slaughtered shows you have has much humanity as intelligence.
If you think reductive comparisons like this are smart or protect Israel or the world wide Jewish community you're beyond reason.
The Nazi's nearly exterminated all European Jews in the Shoah. Their crimes stand alone and are incomparable to any other.
Palestinians have done nothing to deserve such a comparison.
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u/GiverOfDarwinAwards 23h ago
Conflating the German people with Nazis while they were being slaughtered | Conflating the Palestinian people with Hamas while they’re being slaughtered.
Be a big girl, stop crying. Hamas wanted this as much as the Nazis did.
And now the Palestinians will pay for Hamas just as the Germans did for Nazis.
The Axis will be liquidated over the bodies of Palestinian women and children just as the Axis was liquidated over the bodies of German women and children. And we’ll cheer on those doing it.
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u/jokerSensei 21h ago
Keep cheering death until it knocks on your door 🤣
By then I'll be cheering
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u/GiverOfDarwinAwards 21h ago
I’m not a Palestinian Arab Axis type. I don’t attack someone much bigger than me ten times over, and keep crying when I get my head caved in each time.
Some people call it cowardice. I call it avoiding a diagnosis of insanity.
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u/jokerSensei 21h ago
Oh so I won't hear despair in your voice when death comes to bite you back?? big guy over here 🤣... don't worry when time comes (it will come) we'll know
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u/GiverOfDarwinAwards 21h ago
I’m planning on dying aged around 90 after living a long and fulfilling life in a country that doesn’t start wars with superpowers (relative to it) without any allies to have its back.
The moment it does, I’m moving elsewhere. The good bit about that statement is that I’ll never have to.
My country just isn’t that stupid. Possibly because it’s not ultra-fascist-religious-Islamist like Palestine. And it isn’t homogenous like Palestine so we’re pretty cool with all sorts of different people.
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u/Frequent-Read-6353 19h ago
Zionist are much closer to Bazis and eventually will be a problem the world will have to find a solution too.
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u/GiverOfDarwinAwards 19h ago
Again, for the Axis supporters:
- Hamas call themselves part of "The Axis"
- Hamas hate Jews
- Hamas have a master-faith ideology
- Hamas captured power and instituted a dictatorship
- Hamas converted all functions of Gaza to war-making
- Hamas's actions on October 7th were a carbon copy of Einsatzgruppen
There's not much closer you can get to Nazis than Hamas. It's why Hamas are being liquidated in real time and a good riddance to that Islamo-fascist Axis scum!
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u/Frequent-Read-6353 19h ago
Again for the Nazis. Isreal is a terrorist nazi occupation you can spread all the hate speech you like
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u/darthSashimi 14h ago
Lool owned yourself in your comments, then the replies destroy u further, lmao failed
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u/Additional_Olive3318 22h ago
We can start with “going door to door, yanking out families and executing kids in front of parents, parents in front of kids, innovating in personal methods of torture”.
That’s more a description of the Israelis than anything that happened more than a year ago.
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u/GiverOfDarwinAwards 22h ago edited 22h ago
I mean, if you want to imagine a world where everything’s upside down, yeah it’s a description of Israelis.
Here in the real world, we all saw what the current Axis did because they filmed it and called up mummy to tell her how much they loved killing those Yahoodis, only for mummy to reply back how proud she was of little Mohammed for tying up those Yahoodi kids in front of their parents and incinerating them.
Because history rhymes, the old Axis, the one we already liquidated by carpet bombing German cities, also liked to film themselves being innovative with ways to murder Juden.
And so we’re going to watch as the current Axis gets liquidated. Looking forward to the Fourth Reich (Gaza) being cleaved in partitions and the population denazified. It’s like seeing history repeat.
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u/Additional_Olive3318 22h ago
Here in the real world, we all saw what the current Axis did because they filmed it
It was a terrorist attack, just like the terrorist attack on Moscow which lead the Russians to invade Czchnya. Subsequently Russia was responsible for its actions in Chechnya
The actions of the Israelis in the year have been wildly disproportionate and clearly not the same as bombing Hamburg in WWII for multiple reasons - the Germans were fighting back with their own bombings, they were invading Europe, they were engaging in continuing atrocities (it was still theoretically a war crime though).
In the year since Oct 7, the Palestinians have just been bombed, ethnically cleansed, bombed again, moved again and there’s the clear destruction of most of the infrastructure.
The west is pretty good at hiding atrocities, invade Vietnam and produce war movies about the hurtedy feelings of American soldiers, but this one is different. Across the world, and with younger generations in the west, this can’t be hidden. If Palestine can’t be rebuilt, the the Palestinians are expelled, there’s generations to come who will despise Israeli.
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u/GiverOfDarwinAwards 22h ago
For the first few months after Einsatzgruppen Gaza Division went on a Juden-hunting rampage, the Axis kept flinging rockets at Israel.
We’re on a compressed timeline over here. Gaza is Germany 1944. It’s the end game. The Axis is being dismantled and liquidated.
What happens after will likely be a version of what the Third Reich copped after it unconditionally surrendered.
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u/Stubbs94 20h ago
Germany wasn't an occupied territory, Gaza is. To compare an occupation force to the occupied is ridiculous and so ahistorical.
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u/GiverOfDarwinAwards 20h ago
Germany got occupied when they became assholes. Gaza got occupied when they became assholes.
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u/Additional_Olive3318 21h ago
For the first few months after Einsatzgruppen Gaza Division went on a Juden-hunting rampage, the Axis kept flinging rockets at Israel.
Not everything goes back to WWII. Are you saying that the Palestinians cant return fire?
We’re on a compressed timeline over here. Gaza is Germany 1944. It’s the end game. The Axis is being dismantled and liquidated.
Less than 1% of the world are going to believe this rhetoric. If there are any future comparisons between the axis and Israel/palestine it won’t be that the Palestinians are the axis. Trust me
What happens after will likely be a version of what the Third Reich copped after it unconditionally surrendered. A marshal plan for Palestine? I doubt it. It looks like it will take 80+ years to rebuild and I can’t imagine the Israelis rebuilding. Not with the Palestinians intact.
Only two things can happen now.
1: full or partial expulsion of Palestinians. Israeli annexation.
2: Palestine is declared a victory and the Palestinians are left living in a moon scape for a century.
Neither is a good look for Israel or the west, long term. Palestine is a festering wound that won’t go away. The more destroyed it is the more the credibility of the west and Israel in particular lies in ruin. The longer it is destroyed the more the credibility of the west and Israel in particular lies in ruin.
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u/GiverOfDarwinAwards 21h ago edited 21h ago
All the things you are saying are bad, sound perfectly good to me.
There’s only one way forward for the Fourth Reich. Take a leaf out of the Third’s book: unconditional surrender.
Then we: - chase the remaining Axis bigwigs around the world, assassinate a few, bring the rest to trial - enforce a constitution - occupy and partition for 40-50 years (Arab Mandate for Palestine seems appropriate) - aggressively denazify the Palestinians so that the Sinwar, Meshaal, Haniyeh, Al-Rantisi, Yassin and Deif bloodlines voluntarily cease reproducing (a la Hitler’s) due to the shame - 100 years of atonement to the Jews. - reconstruction
Benefit of this plan: it worked before.
Also, fun fact: once the Axis is liquidated and the bombing stops, all the pro-Axis types are going to shut up because there’s no further Axis to support. They’ll move onto the next thing.
These aren’t serious people and more importantly they’re not people in power. Nobody will give a shit about 25,000 dead Palestinian kids and women, just like we don’t give a shit about hundreds of thousands or millions of dead German kids and women.
Humans move on.
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u/Daryno90 1d ago
Delusional, just ignoring the fact that human rights groups like Doctors Without Borders, the UN, ICJ, doctors who been there, historians, scholars who studies the Holocaust (including Israeli one) and literal Holocaust survivors are all calling this a genocide.
You have IDF soldiers coming out pointing out the horrific shit that the IDF had been doing to the Palestinians and you have the nerves to say that the Palestinians are the Germans in this scenario, you are a demented person
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u/marsmodule 13h ago
Don’t even bother with this guy he’s too lost in the sauce trying to equate Palestinians to Nazis when it’s obvious who the real Nazis are
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u/GiverOfDarwinAwards 1d ago
Good on all of those “human rights groups”. The Allies bombed German cities killing up to 25,000 civilians per night and they were the good guys.
Enjoy the comparison, as the Axis in Gaza gets liquidated.
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u/Daryno90 23h ago
Oh you mean during the war that was so bad that they made rules of engagement in the hope that it wouldn’t happen again and rules that Israel have violated over this year. Yeah I think I’m going with the people who actually know their shit over some f*cked in the head redditor. Pretty easy choice there actually
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u/GiverOfDarwinAwards 23h ago
Yep that war. And those rules of engagement they made were made from the Nuremberg trials. And in one of these Nuremberg trials which was called the Einsatzgruppen trial, there was a guy called Otto Ohlendorf but you may as well have called him Yahya Sinwar:
Ohlendorf: I have seen very many children killed in this war through air attacks, for the security of other nations, and orders were carried out to bomb, no matter whether many children were killed or not.
Q: Now, I think we are getting somewhere, Mr. Ohlendorf. You saw German children killed by Allied bombers and that is what you are referring to?
Ohlendorf: Yes, I have seen it.
Q: Do you attempt to draw a moral comparison between the bomber who drops bombs hoping that it will not kill children and yourself who shot children deliberately? Is that a fair moral comparison?
Ohlendorf: I cannot imagine that those planes which systematically covered a city that was a fortified city, square meter for square meter, with incendiaries and explosive bombs and again with phosphorus bombs, and this done from block to block, and then as I have seen it in Dresden likewise the squares where the civilian population had fled to—that these men could possibly hope not to kill any civilian population, and no children.
The judges would have none of his bullshit even though the Allies killed 25,000 civilians in one night bombing Dresden.
A city is bombed for tactical purposes… it inevitably happens that nonmilitary persons are killed. This is an incident, a grave incident to be sure, but an unavoidable corollary of battle action. The civilians are not individualized. The bomb falls, it is aimed at the railroad yards, houses along the tracks are hit and many of their occupants killed. But that is entirely different, both in fact and in law, from an armed force marching up to these same railroad tracks, entering those houses abutting thereon, dragging out the men, women and children and shooting them.
Them’s the rules chump.
Hamas = Einsatzgruppen. Israel = Allies.
The good news, I guess, is that Israel has killed roughly the same number of civilians in 448 days of war as the Allies killed in 1 day.
Those are rookie numbers Israel.
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u/Daryno90 23h ago
ah yes the “that’s just war” excuse, what you are really saying is “ignore all of the war crimes that Israel committed.”
Post all of the historical facts that you want, doesn’t change the fact that organizations and people who know far more than you are calling this a genocide. But of course you already know this, you just want it to happened the demented freak you are
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u/GiverOfDarwinAwards 23h ago edited 23h ago
Yep. We will ignore all war crimes Israel committed. Just like the ICJ/ICC inexplicably dropped investigation of America for war crimes committed in Afghanistan, and how no-one’s investigated Australian soldiers for war crimes in 2005 that the Australians have spent 20 years “investigating” with not a single criminal charge filed thus far.
Liquidating the Axis/ISIS/Hamas/Taliban >> war crimes.
Didn’t you know? Wasn’t there a memo?
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u/Daryno90 19h ago
You do know that America can invade Poland as part of the Hague act, I get the feeling that’s part of why they dropped it because they didn’t want America invading Poland. Just show how f*cked up America is
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u/naoiseh 1d ago
You. Nazi. You
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u/naoiseh 1d ago
I'm not saying the Jews are the new nazis. The Zionists are the new nazis.
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u/GiverOfDarwinAwards 1d ago
“And I’m not saying black people all suck, just the ones who vote Democrat do. So just 95% of them.”
^ Basically you.
Axis supporters are hilarious.
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u/GearMysterious8720 21h ago
If 90% of Jews support Nazis then only 10% have morals
BDS, block all trade to the fascist state
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u/SirRudderballs 1d ago
Why do mods keep blocking comments on posts that show isreal for what it is?