r/BritishTV • u/PixelVapor • 2d ago
News Piers Morgan backs Baby Reindeer 'real life Martha' in multi-million Netflix lawsuit
https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/piers-morgan-backs-baby-reindeer-30622327129
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u/lucyooo 2d ago
Piers is a professional contrarian desperate for attention so this tracks.
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u/Debaser1984 2d ago
I wish he was much more contrarian, so contrarian he decides to stop breathing
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u/lucyooo 1d ago
Just tell him eating is ‘woke’ and he’ll starve
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u/Buchephalas 1d ago
If he was so contrarian you'd think he would've went "woke" by now. I don't think he's contrarian at all i think he just has shitty views.
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u/angelholme 2d ago
I know nothing about the case -- literally nothing. Didn't watch the show, have paid no attention to the press.
But this headline alone makes me want to side with Netflix.
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u/EdmundTheInsulter 1d ago
Well, somehow they called it a true story when critical facts would be known not to be true.
Like Ronnie Pickering, little seems to be definitively known about the real Martha, however it appears she may practice law or be qualified, so leaving her to be discovered may be a libel.Is my understanding
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u/MattyFTM 1d ago
She claimed to be a lawyer, at least in the show and probably also in reality, but it's generally believed she has no real legal background. But it definitely seems like she would have a strong libel case considering the statement of it being a true story, and there being parts of the story (i.e. her being tried and convicted of stalking) that definitely aren't true.
And any number of lawyers would have been queueing up to take on a big case against Netflix centered around one of the biggest shows of the year.
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u/EdmundTheInsulter 10h ago
I thought Id heard she was in fact a lawyer, but then she may be lying or deluded and convinced someone.
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u/Curiousferrets 2d ago
I'll be honest, I didn't know about it at all until the YouTube homepage spewed up his piece about her defending her right to privacy, which is ironic.
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u/4_feck_sake 2d ago
She outed herself. She was found because of the over 700 yweets she sent him. She still has a few still live on her account. When she was found, she immediately owned up to it and said yeah "that's me."
At this point, she has had the police investigate her for stalking and had a comedy show writteb about her. She knew a Netflix show was in the works. Would you not make sure anything that could identify you was scrubbed from your social media? Or was she courting the infamy?
She'll probably get some settlement, but let's not pretend she didn't out herself here. Netflix nor gad have confirmed she is the subject of the show.
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u/Dimac99 23h ago
She didn't out herself, the show copied her tweets word for word. That's not her outing herself. Regardless of how she behaved (and that's up for some debate now that we know this "true story" contained some massively untrue elements), the producers still had a duty to protect her identity and they did not.
I am in no way condoning stalking, but she is clearly a vulnerable person with mental health issues and the producers have damaged her reputation with provable lies (no stalking conviction, no prison time, no glassing - so what else might be untrue?) and placed her in danger from nutters on social media who makes themselves judge, jury and (hopefully not literally) executioner. That's not right. I hope they have the book thrown at them.
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u/4_feck_sake 15h ago
She was identified by one tweet because she hadn't taken it down. She had taken down most of the other tweets she had sent him but had left a few of them up, including one they quoted in the show.
If after a police investigation, a comedy show about you and knowledge that a Netflix drama was going to be made about the incident, you still have stalker tweetsmonnyour account, that on you.
Then when she was identified she said yep that's me. Neither Gadd nor Netflix have confirmed she is Martha.
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u/EdmundTheInsulter 1d ago
The film implied she was convicted or even jailed when she wasn't. It was a major gaff since they said the story was true.
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u/4_feck_sake 1d ago
That's not what Piers is supporting, however. He said not enough was done to protect her identity. She identified herself.
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u/Forward_Promise2121 1d ago
She may have been advised not to "clean everything up" if it was seen as tampering with evidence. If nothing else, it looks like there's something to hide if she does.
I haven't watched all of the show, but I did watch some of it, and what I saw didn't sit right with me. So, I wasn't surprised when Netflix responded by saying it was fiction.
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u/EdmundTheInsulter 1d ago
Didn't they say she'd been to jail? Or convicted, when she wasn't - they're best settling or maybe they want publicity.
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u/4_feck_sake 1d ago
She deleted most of her tweets just not all of them. Deleting social media is not deleting evidence. Gadd had them all saved anyway.
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u/martapap 2d ago
This woman has obvious mental health issues but she is right to sue. They used her exact language in her tweets. People were able to find out who she was within a day or two of the show premiering. Contrast that with his rapist, who has never been identified. They also put in the false story of her being criminally sentenced and sent to prison.
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u/BertieBus 2d ago
You just had to go onto his twitter page and check for tweets.
I think Netflix biggest issue if they said this IS a true story, but she never went to prison. I think had they said based on a true story, they would have got away with it.
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u/souldawg 1d ago
Or they could have said ‘based on a true story’ and would have been fine. It would not have reduced the impact and covered them legally.
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u/EdmundTheInsulter 1d ago
It's the biggest blunder since the John Darwin canoe amnesia bloke, where members of public simply googled stuff and found them in Panama therefore blowing the entire ruse.
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u/WinstungChurchill 1d ago
It’s quite easy to work out who the rapist is n all, especially when you start to notice how they littered the show with glaringly obvious peep show references.
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u/edked 1d ago
Maybe she was somewhat right to sue, but now that Piers is on her side, she can go fuck herself.
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u/jamesick 1d ago
should she not have people on her side? when firstly, she can’t tell someone to not be on her side, and secondly most people aren’t on her side. so hate her for being her if you want but hating her because piers is backing her is terrible.
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u/EugeneHartke 1d ago
Isn't it weird that everyone wanted to know who the real Martha was; but no one gave a shit about the producer who drugged and raped him?
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u/Purple-Negotiation81 2d ago
So let me get this right. Netflix “failed”to hide the identity of someone whose identity was hidden well in the show, until she identified herself because she wasn’t getting enough attention in real life, is being backed by a narcissist who only does things for attention?
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u/martapap 2d ago
people were flooding her facebook with comments because she was so easy to recognize from the show.
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u/Purple-Negotiation81 2d ago
The show was released on April 11, 2024 and the woman identified herself in an interview with the Daily Mail less than 2 weeks later. Please, spare me the “she had no choice” story. There’s always a choice. Just a reminder, she WAS stalking him. Stalkers love attention.
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u/martapap 2d ago
I was on the sub here for the show and saw her facebook when it was open and the dozens of comments she was receiving. This was well before she identified herself publicly. People were able to identify within a day or two of the show.
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u/Purple-Negotiation81 2d ago
So, make your FB private. She knew the show was about her, she knew people would want to find out who she was in real life.
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u/edked 1d ago
Great way to convince me that she deserves no sympathy.
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u/EdmundTheInsulter 1d ago
Piers Morgan is nothing to do with the case unless he's coached her into false stories etc
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u/Insomniacbychoice90 2d ago
He's a busy fella, I've just seen him in Home Alone 2 feeding the pigeons
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u/HeartyBeast 1d ago
What’s the opposite of ‘national treasure’? Increasingly, I feel we need a phrase
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u/PixelVapor 2d ago
"Piers Morgan says Netflix failed to adequately hide Fiona Harvey's identity when depicting stalker character Martha in Scots comic Richard Gadd's series."
Share your thoughts below.
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u/BertieBus 2d ago
He didn't have an issue when he was interviewing her, just after it all came out.
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u/EdmundTheInsulter 1d ago
Yeah they did and they fictionalised her as well as saying it was a true story.
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