r/BlackPeopleTwitter Jul 20 '24

Country Club Thread The party of "fuck you, I got mine"

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u/rookieoo Jul 20 '24

That guy sounds crazy. Hopefully, he doesn't become the next AG. Trump has said he wants to change birth right citizenship laws. If he does, what Mike Davis says will be legal.

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u/createayou Jul 20 '24

At this point I don’t even think legal immigrants are safe. Unless they get cops to just detain anyone who looks non white, I don’t see how they’ll have the man power to deport every undocumented immigrant. There’s not enough ICE agents or cops to do the work legitimately, so they’ll just have to round us up.

As a Cuban immigrant who got my citizenship at 15 thanks to my parents taking the test, at this point I’m just gonna get a gun and hope I don’t have to use it. 🤷‍♀️

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u/OneX32 Jul 20 '24

At this point I don’t even think legal immigrants are safe.

The fact that the previous administration stripped kids from their parents and took no care to keep track of them kind of proves that they won't care about checking the legal reasoning behind one's immigrant status before they push you out of the train in the middle of the Sonoran desert.

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u/RedRider1138 Jul 20 '24

That’s so strange to hear from the people so concerned about child trafficking. /s

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u/sh1boleth Jul 20 '24

Fun fact - even legal non citizens like F1 Students, H1B Workers and Green Card Permanent residents can legally buy guns lol.

Source - https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonimmigrant-alien-who-has-been-admitted-united-states-under-nonimmigrant-visa

Hunting License in a majority of the states is very simple to acquire and the only requirement is residency in said state.

Some FFLs in Rural areas may be unsure of this law and refuse transfers but the ones in suburban and urban areas are aware and do transfers without issues provided all documents are present and legal.

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u/luxii4 Jul 20 '24

You’re right, legal immigrants and people born in America can be deported any time. I saw a documentary called Born in East LA that showed this exact situation.

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u/Capt-Crap1corn Jul 20 '24

What I wonder about are the people that will ratchet up hostility as a way of keeping themselves safe. Kind of like when the harshest critics of Gays were actually Gay themselves but destroying the lives of Gay people. Something like that making everything more worse than we could imagine.

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u/createayou Jul 20 '24

Roe being overturned was also “never going to happen”. These things have a way of getting away from us while we sit around and wait “for things to happen”. All I know is what the heritage foundation, Trump himself, and his cronies keep repeating ad nauseam. They hate people like me and want to see us in cages.

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u/Rottimer Jul 20 '24

I remember people like you saying the same thing the first time he ran, and the he appointed 3 Supreme Court justices that overturned Roe v. Wade and expanded executive power to a level the founders never imagined.

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u/Rottimer Jul 20 '24

And I’ve always found that people that actually believe this, that both sides are ultimately the same, are extremely ignorant about politics and current events.

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u/softcore_UFO Jul 20 '24

You don’t think people are gonna hold onto those talking points?

I was told to my face my family “is going to be in real trouble soon”. My ancestors come from Texas.

Folks are looking forward to this, they’re not going to let it go

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u/zogmuffin Jul 20 '24

Don’t bother, he’s a non-voter

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u/sYnce Jul 20 '24

And with nobody you mean middle class and up white males.

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u/sYnce Jul 20 '24

Trumps presidency has literally changed and ruined the lives of millions of people by stacking the supreme court for decades to come.

You can laugh all you want and feel yourself superior that you saw throug it all but in the end you are just the backbone of the uneducated masses who likes to call himself enlightened.

But I guess you are white, male and decently well off so for you I guess nothing will really change.

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u/zogmuffin Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

You would believe it if you fell into one of those targeted identity categories. I can’t think of a more privileged and out of touch viewpoint on this than “none of this matters.” Fuck you very much for idly standing by.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

This is propaganda. Some propaganda is meant to drive voter apathy, and that's exactly what this is. No one listen to this stupid fuck. Be smarter and don't fall for their bullshit. Vote.

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u/KXD-MD Jul 20 '24

That’s not true. Some of it already has happenedhere’s an article that briefly describes some curbs to legal immigration by the Trump administration, and I think your comment indicates exactly how poorly we talk about immigration in this country. When people talk about the asylum process- that is a legal Immigration pathway. When people talk about work visas, legal residency, deferred action against childhood arrivals (DACA) - are other legal status pathways. Much of how immigrants enter or remain in country are in the contexts of these classifications- and how either the laws, enforcement, or court decisions work. The Trump admin of 2016-2020 has already acted, quite vigorously, on legal immigration- he tried to end DACA, he tried and was eventually successful to end migration from some Muslim Majority countries (initially blocked by courts but after a few tries successfully reworded subsequent policy to achieve the same effect while being written in a legally acceptable way), he used Title 42 restrictions to end US legal obligations to the asylum process (after leading severe restrictions to the number and process on which the processing takes place), he implemented the family separation policies that as of 2023, some 1,000 children remain separated and are functionally orphaned from their parents- kids that again were brought in family, making and by law were entitled to an asylum claims evaluation, which is a legal immigration pathway, and his administration decreased the number of several visas, work and not work. His administration was interested in ending birth right citizenship, among other things larger policy actions. So to say that “none of this will happen” is simply not true. Some of it already has, congress has shown no signs of taking the issue on more readily, and the court system is extremely willing to forego past precedent and expand both their own and presidential power (admittedly, not through a lens of regulatory power but through unitary executive theory)

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u/oceanplanetoasis Jul 20 '24

That's what the Germans said in 1932 and 33

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u/TheBrownOnee Jul 20 '24

Trump separated children from their parents at the borders, and had his administration tell the American public that they lost and displaced 1488 kids. And now we’ve come to find they were denied any and all amenities and the babies only survived due to the older kids in the prison. Fucking 1488. And you’re sitting here naively ignorantly doubting that there is zero nazi ideations and similarities here. Insane levels of cognitive dissonance.

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u/Creamofwheatski Jul 20 '24

Yep, they are going to turn millions of people "illegal" overnight by revoking birthright citzenship and start arresting a deporting folks born in America because their parents are immigrants. Imagine being forcibly deported to a country you have never been to before because your skin is brown. it will be pure chaos if they try this and it will destroy the country. 

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u/rookieoo Jul 20 '24

The would-be law would have to include retroactive language for that to be the case. I doubt they will succeed.

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u/Creamofwheatski Jul 20 '24

Lets hope, this is what they say they want to do, i am hoping they dont get enough power in congress to pull it off but if its an executive order backed by the supreme court all bets are off. We are living in unprecedented times, no one really knows for sure whats going to happen next.

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u/devourer09 Jul 20 '24

You have faith and trust in a right-wing government? You assume they care about the rule of law. I wish I had your naivete.

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u/rookieoo Jul 20 '24

I know that they can be challenged in court if they break the law

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u/devourer09 Jul 20 '24

The same court ruled by the current iteration of SCOTUS? 🤣🤣🤣

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u/rookieoo Jul 20 '24

Yes. The court that forced Idaho to allow abortions for the health of the mother.

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u/jadsonbreezy Jul 20 '24

He can't even count if I read the quote correctly 😭