r/BlackPeopleTwitter Jul 20 '24

Country Club Thread The party of "fuck you, I got mine"

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

Legal immigrant vs illegal immigrants. No one hates illegal immigrants more than legal immigrants.

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u/CaterpillarJungleGym Jul 20 '24

I remember we went to Ireland a few years ago. Everyone we spoke to lived around NYC for a time. They all said the economy was bad so they came to the US, overstayed their visas and worked as servers and bartenders. That was mind-blowing that literally dozens or Irish people all did the same thing.

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u/UnlikelyHero727 Jul 20 '24

They didn't go there for the economy, Irish people can move anywhere in the EU and the Irish economy with its 12.7 euro/h minimum wage is definitely not bad enough that you would rather be an illegal immigrant without any pension/health insurance.

They left because of the Hollywood image of the US, LA and NYC, living like the shows.

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u/CaterpillarJungleGym Jul 20 '24

No, they left because the bar/restaurant jobs were dying out because the economy was doing poorly

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u/UnlikelyHero727 Jul 20 '24

And I am saying that someone is lying, I am an EU citizen and no one with a rational thought in their head would do that.

Life for a low-income person is better in the EU, for example, no one in Germany works two full-time jobs to get by.

Being an illegal in the US must be horrific, it only makes sense for people coming from really bad countries.

I was shocked when I saw a woman throwing a Latvian passport in a 60min video, but again I am 100% sure she is not coming for a better job but either a lover, family, or the Hollywood dream of the USA.

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u/EarlGreyTea_Drinker Jul 20 '24

It's infuriating to see so many people completely miss the point and refuse to understand why a legal immigrant would be against illegal immigration.

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u/BonJovicus Jul 20 '24

Indeed. People would rather meme than understand why these people end up voting the way they do. 90% of what Trump says are lies, but he’s building off the 10% of real problems that exist in the country, such as broken immigration. 

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u/FEMA_Camp_Survivor ☑️ Jul 20 '24

There’s a difference between illegal and illegal immigration. However, what faith do you have the MAGA crowd wouldn’t eventually use the vast infrastructure needed to detain the undocumented to detain US citizens?

Trump is running a campaign on straight vengeance. He’s been urged to use the Insurrection Act to quell protests in Project 2025. He wanted to do so during BLM protests but was restrained. That restraint won’t be there and it’s not clear the courts can or will provide protection.

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u/karmaisevillikemoney Jul 20 '24

Yeah, this Reddit place is a political brainwashing tool. They post a brown person and say she's against all immigration. Really, they're no better than their adversaries.

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u/ForoElToro Jul 20 '24

That's not really the case, in my experience. Legal immigrants tend to have complex and differing views, kinda like the rest of us.

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u/DiabloTerrorGF Jul 20 '24

Took awhile to find the real answer in these comments.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

Welcome to liberal Reddit

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u/DiabloTerrorGF Jul 20 '24

Less liberal and more about everyone wants to find some reason to be irrationally upset here.

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u/v0x_p0pular Jul 20 '24

As a legal immigrant, I certainly don't hate illegal immigrants. In fact, I have frequently pointed out the hypocrisy of the "bad hombre" tropes that Trump started. I just happen to be conscious of the fact that there need to be limits to how many immigrants the US can admit, and what the process to admit them needs to be. I have only respect for migrants at the border who are merely trying to find a better future, but on the same note admit that there are limits to what the US can do about them. I will admit to disrespecting illegal immigrants who are visa overstays in the US. They clearly had enough means to secure an initial visa to the US, and subsequently decided to game the system.

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u/Stock_Beginning4808 ☑️ Jul 21 '24

A lot of white republicans don’t see her and her family like that though.

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u/Crimson_Scare_Crow Jul 20 '24

Immigrants are immigrants, can’t really tell the difference when you’re in public.

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u/Crimson_Scare_Crow Jul 20 '24

But how do you know who’s breaking the law and who isn’t when you see someone? Still doesn’t answer the question. Gonna go asking for IDs?

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u/Ok_Confection_10 Jul 20 '24

They typically ask for IDs at the border. No ID no entry

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u/Crimson_Scare_Crow Jul 20 '24

That’s at the border though and I don’t think you can deport someone who isn’t already across the border.

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u/Ok_Confection_10 Jul 20 '24

Someone who wouldn’t have ID when they illegally cross the border, is gonna also not have ID when they apply for housing/work/services. People ask for IDs all the time for benign shit.

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u/BigDeckLanm Jul 20 '24

Maybe it works differently in the US (doubt it) but normally if you legally migrate somewhere you'll be provided with documents proving your migrant status like a residence permit.

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u/softcore_UFO Jul 20 '24

They literally can’t tell, I get told to go back to my country several times a year (it’s getting worse) and my people came from Texas (which I guess was Mexico until one day it wasn’t)— nobody in my family ever immigrated here but I’m still supposed to “go back” to my country. People can’t tell the difference and they likely don’t know enough about American history to be able to make appropriate judgments on who’s “allowed” to be here or not

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u/SunriseSurprise Jul 20 '24

That goes for any criminal unless you happen to be witnessing them committing a crime. C'mon now.

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u/ArchLector_Zoller Jul 20 '24

Just checking, but do you drive without your license on you? Is that allowed in your state?

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u/Crimson_Scare_Crow Jul 20 '24

How do you know they’ve got a license by just looking at a car? Are you gonna pull every car over and ask for license and registration?

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u/ArchLector_Zoller Jul 20 '24

What? Does your state allow you to drive without your license on you? Mine doesn't. I forgot it once and got pulled over, bad luck. Lol.

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u/Crimson_Scare_Crow Jul 20 '24

Of course not, but still how can you identify someone as something without knowing anything other than how they look?

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u/ArchLector_Zoller Jul 20 '24

So why are you acting like it's unusual for people to need to be able to show IDs?

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u/Crimson_Scare_Crow Jul 20 '24

IDs was the example and no one’s gonna go up to someone in public and start badgering them for their ID to confirm their legal status.

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u/syncdiedfornothing Jul 20 '24

Yes. If you don't have an ID they should turn you away at the border.