r/BanPitBulls • u/Sicilian_Spitfire • Nov 21 '24
Pits Ruining Neighborhoods Just casually sitting in my living room when I see the pit I didn’t know my neighbor even owned, wandering in my backyard where my daughter normally plays.
My family and I just PCSd to a new base. We’ve only been here 2 months, and had met the neighbors several times. When meeting the neighbor she was very kind and pleasent and told me she had “two big dogs”. I didn’t think anything of it as Pitbulls and other large breads are not allowed on base or in family housing. I saw her german shepherd in the back yard before which is fenced in, but I never saw the other dog, which was suprise a pitbull.
We will be getting a fenced installed but we haven’t yet but now I want it done overnight. I don’t know how much it could help if this dog was able to jump the same standard issue base fence already. The dog went as far as to coming up to my back door that my daughter was just at looking out. I can’t imagine if it was a hot day and I just had left it open, what horror could unfold if it tried to come in.
Well after 2 minutes her so the owner which is my neighbor came screaming and chasing the dog with a leash, the dog completely ignored her and took off down to the other houses.
This is a really nice lady and she expressed to me before that her dogs were her children, as she was unable to have any. I don’t want to be that Karen that calls housing authority and reports her, but seeing that it was able to jump the fence, I don’t feel safe. I see that she’s made a great effort to keep this dog concealed and I don’t want to be the one to just ruin her life, as she’d most likely have to get the dog off base immediately. She saw me screaming behind my door at the dog to go away, so she knows I was upset. It’s just scary to think there’s this killing machine living right next door when I have my 1 year old daughter. I thought the greatest perk of living on base was being safe from living by pits. Should I call and report?
Edit: Wow thanks for the overwhelming support. I came here very unsure about how to handle this situation. I just moved to this base and base drama is very common and not pleasent. My husband had presuaded me not to call and report as the neighbors have been so kind to us and he wanted to give them another chance. However, after being backed up here I am going to take the stand because I wouldn’t want to live another day on earth if something happened to my child. Thank you everyone for the confidence to go through this unpleasant reporting process.
Update: I have now made my report. The lady I spoke to seemed rather uninterested but told me they would “look into it”. Apparently the dog is listed as a lab/ mix. After speaking to another person on the street she informed me there was about 5 diffrent pitbulls living in this neighborhood. We’re just going to buy a house soon and move off base since these other military members can’t seem to be trusted to follow basic rules.
I also found this article on military.com, giving tips on how to lie and get your pit on base. No wonder these people are just doing it.
https://www.military.com/spousebuzz/blog/2013/01/how-to-bring-banned-dogs-on-a-military-base.html
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u/Uvabird Victim - Bites and Bruises Nov 21 '24
Examine the facts- 1. She chose to live in base housing. 2. She chose to live in base housing with a banned breed. 3. She chose to break the rules. 4. She cannot safely contain the dog and it has become a risk to the safety of small children.
You have a small child and likely other neighbors do as well. There’s a reason the military has a list of banned breeds and it’s not because the military is being mean.
Make a report. Too many of us here have experienced what these dogs can do.
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 21 '24
I’m making the report. My husband thought it was too much and to give them more chances to get the dog under control, however I’m going to take common sense advice and do it anyways. Thank You! 🙏🏻
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u/Freedombyathread Nov 21 '24 edited Nov 21 '24
They are not normal dogs.
A lot of the traits that other breeds had bred out of them to make them safe reliable family dogs? It's like put breeders took all those discarded unwanted traits and used them to create pits. Pits are dogs amplified, superdogs, weapons.
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u/addictedstylist Nov 22 '24
You're right. And they don't act like a normal dog when it comes to attacking. They just walk up casually and surprise attack. Unfortunately, I witnessed this.
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u/ThinkingBroad Nov 22 '24
And it invades other people's yards, homes, vehicles and public places too.
Essentially no other normal dog, only non dogs will trespass for the sole purpose of mauling and killing dogs
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u/NoNumber2108 Nov 21 '24
Please report it. She may get upset at you for 'taking her child away', but think of all the children you are saving from this dog in the future. Your daughter was lucky to be inside, but you said the dog took of running towards other houses - what about them? What if there was a single other kid playing in their yard? Dog attacks can happen in a second.
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u/ITaggie Nov 21 '24
She may get upset at you for 'taking her child away'
Well according to OP the dog ran past a few other houses down the street while she was yelling and chasing it. As long as OP doesn't tell the neighbor that it was them who reported it then it could have been anyone on the street.
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 21 '24
That’s true. Honestly just the few responses I just got have given me the confidence to just do it. That’s why this sub exist is to warn people to avoid disaster. This woman can’t be trusted to keep her dog under control, I have to woman up and so what I have to do.
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u/flat_four_whore22 Family Member of Fatally Mauled Pet(s) Nov 21 '24
please report. pictures, video, everything. they're banned on base for a reason.
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 21 '24
Exactly! Base housing is all familes with children and elderly dependents. She might not think she’s putting everyone at risk but she is.
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u/Mimikyu4 Nov 21 '24
By not calling your kid could end up hurt or dead. You willing to risk it? I know I’d be calling.
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u/ProfessorPliny Nov 21 '24
Or another kid for that matter. I’d be blaming myself for not calling until my dying day.
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u/Upstairs-Switch-4669 Nov 21 '24
Who cares if she’s nice she broke the rules 🤷🏽♀️ all that goes out the window when it comes to protecting a child. When you see something you say something that’s the only way we can prevent more tragedies from happening. I see it the same as harboring a dangerous fugitive & if she was harboring a child murderer would you keep it to yourself because she’s a nice person? Report that woman asap she obviously doesn’t respect rules that are set in place to protect ppl.
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 21 '24
Right! Because her baby could never do such a thing, untill it does. It’s not happening to me or my baby. After seeing that Tennesse Pitbull incident I’ve been so afraud. I lurk in here from time to time and get frightened, and today death machine is just right in my backyard.
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u/Upstairs-Switch-4669 Nov 21 '24
Exactly please protect your baby first that lady’s life & dog isn’t your concern. & I know exactly how you feel because my nephew currently has to get rides to school (that’s 2 blocks away) because of a neighbor who won’t properly secure their pitbull we rather be safe than sorry. She may be nice now but if something ever does happen you’ll see jus how much she cares about that dog. Don’t let it get to that point.
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u/Senator_Bink Nov 21 '24
Those things are always "somehow" getting out. Make the call.
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 21 '24
I couldn’t believe my eyes when I just saw one right outside my door like what the actual F. I’m making that call. My husband begged me not to start drama and that I’m over reacting and that I’m going to make enemies on base but oh well!
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u/Senator_Bink Nov 21 '24
Never admit to calling, if asked. Play absolutely innocent. Must have been some-other-body.
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u/euphratestiger Nov 22 '24
My husband begged me not to start drama
I imagine he'd feel pretty guilty about this protest if your daughter were attacked.
The best time to buy an umbrella is before the rain.
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u/_kahteh Pro-Pet; therefore Anti-Pit Nov 21 '24
Would she know it was you that reported her, if the dog ran off towards the nearby houses?
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 21 '24
I’m thinking I might be able to get away with it because it ran atleast 3 backgrounds down. So if she questions me about it I could act suprised and be like it must of been one of the neighbors. I just think it’s going to be obvious because she saw me screaming at the dog to get lost. I think I’m going to have to bite the bullet on this and take the negative social consequences between me and her for calling.
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u/Lassittore Team Frenchie Nov 21 '24
One of my biggest fears is what might happen when the elderly couples on either side of my home inevitably pass away. Neither of them has dogs, and I'll be so worried someone with a pit will move in next door! Our yard is fenced, but only with 4-foot rail fencing, nothing that will stop a pit. I have two small dogs whose safety means everything to me.
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 21 '24
It’s weird I somehow never thought I’d even be in this position. This has been a humbling experience. My daughter is my world and if anything happened to her I wouldn’t be able to live with myself. I know this is this ladies “baby”, but she should of gotten a house of base like the rest of the pit owners. This neighborhood is filled with toddlers.
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u/ghostsdeparted Best Friends Animal Society (BFAS) is a death cult. Nov 21 '24
Dogs are beloved companions, but they aren’t children. Report the unauthorized dog without guilt. You and your children deserve a safe neighborhood.
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 21 '24
Thank you! And it’s a military base. If military bases can’t be trusted as a safe space then where is.
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u/Wise_Contribution883 Nov 22 '24
Isn't this just a standard violation, without going into the issue of trying to be nice to her? They aren't allowed, so she can't have it. My sister and her family are air force and they had their chihuahua mauled and killed by their neighbors Akita mix. They fought to have that breed banned now. You need to report so it gets removed.
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 22 '24
I’m sorry that happened to your sister. Dogs are family members. She was somewhere that was supposed to be safe. I’m glad she fought! It’s a hard thing to do if you’re also processing grief.
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u/Tani68 Nov 21 '24
REPORT IMMEDIATELY! Before anyone is hurt. It’s illegal and she deserves to lose the dog. How dare she feel morally superior to others and subject them to this banned dog?? The audacity is too much.
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u/SkinkaLei Nov 21 '24
I would regret it so much if I told you to keep the peace and don't say anything only for the pit to jump your fence one day when your daughter is outside but I imagine you'd regret it more. Couldn't you atleast do it anonymously or something?
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 21 '24
I’m going to call and emphasize the housing authority that they gotta go about it in a way to conceal my identity. It’s so awkward because I see her several times a day in passing in our drive ways going to and from. I hope they can investigate and handle it in a way that doesn’t show that it was me.
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u/Embarrassed_Owl4482 Nov 22 '24
Pitbulls are banned on military bases. Yes I know pitters think all laws don’t apply to them but I’d report it anonymously. Don’t say anything to her.
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u/riko_rikochet Nov 22 '24
We're a military family who lives on base too.
Report this.
There's a certain understanding between people who live on a military base that you follow the damn rules and it keeps everyone safe. We don't lock our doors, we don't lock our cars, we can let our daughter run around in the park, because the rules are enforced.
This woman isn't just failing to follow the rules, she is spitting in the face of the military community that she benefits from and is placing all of her neighbors, and every single military member at risk with her selfishness and poor decision making.
You aren't ruining her life. She is ruining her life.
Imagine if her out of control dog bites a service member and ends their career. Imagine if it hurts a kid because you know kids are out and about in base housing. Imagine if it runs away onto a secure part of the base. These are all very real, very legitimate risks that this woman has decided are ok for her to take.
Report, report, report. It's hard enough being a military family and getting moved around like luggage. People like her diminish what benefits the military provides to offset the difficulties families face.
In no uncertain terms. Fuck. Her.
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 22 '24
Thank You! Thank you for taking the time to write that. It’s true. We don’t usually lock our doors either! You shouldn’t have to on base.
It really is awful that she’s subjecting everyone to this. She seems to have that delusional mindset that hers could never do anything that. It’s like lady their on a lot on base for reason.
I now think her reasons for being so nice to us were more so if we found out, we’d more hesitant to tell.
I’m exciting to see what the housing authority has to say. My guess is she has it registered as a different breed, they need to come see it immediately.
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u/Turbulent_Fig_1174 Nov 21 '24
This might get downvoted but I wouldn’t trust the other dog either. German shepherds are pretty hit and miss. They can be super aggressive too, especially if they’re not given a job to do or some kind of stimulation during the day. Someone I know had one that basically chewed its own tail off and would bite anyone except its owner.
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 21 '24
I know the one girl I follow on IG that got her whole face ripped off dog sitting was by a german sheppard and a pitt. I never thought of being scared of German sheppards but the idea of a pitt and one together omg. I’ve only only tiny dogs, so I have no experience with any larger breeds.
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u/Turbulent_Fig_1174 Nov 22 '24
Yeah there are certain breeds that I feel like the average person should just not own, and then there are pit bulls which no one should own lmao. Like these are working dogs that are not designed to sit at home all day or in a crate while you’re at work. A husky is another example. People get those types of dogs because they look cool and then they have all kinds of behavioral issues.
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u/blazinskunk Nov 22 '24
The only issue I see is if she convinces the housing authority that it’s not a pitbull but, instead, a “mix” or a “staffie” etc
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 22 '24
I just googled past military members post in a military sub. There was lots of questions asking if they could just hide their dog as a “mixed breed”. This was super disturbing as that has to be what’s going on because the housing application asks you exactly what breeds you have.
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u/blazinskunk Nov 22 '24
There are plenty of people on this sub that can provide you with articles explaining how “bully breeds” are all basically under the pitbull umbrella. I’m not the best researcher but just ask and I’m sure a mod or poster would be more than happy to provide you with the info you need to submit to the base housing people. Best of luck to you!
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u/ShitArchonXPR Dogfighters invented "Nanny Dog" & "Staffordshire Terrier" Nov 24 '24
Fun fact for the "it's a Staffy, not a pitbull!" crowd: the United Kennel Club allows dual registration where a "Staffy" on AKC books is registered as an APBT on UKC books. They never allow that for non-pitbulls.
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u/AutisticPretzel Nov 22 '24
"..She expressed to me that her dogs were her children" - Any modicum of sanity left the chat after hearing this statement.
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u/clairebearshare Nov 22 '24
REPORT HER AND THAT DOG. Could you live with yourself if yours or another’s child died at the hands of that dog after you chose not to report it? If the answer is no, you know what you have to do.
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u/Superb_Vanilla_7473 Nov 22 '24
Fuck That. You choose to own this breed,and let this dog get "away" from you? You no longer have physical control of this dog? You no longer get to own this dog. Period. Fuck Pit Bulls.
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u/FlailingatLife62 Nov 22 '24
is there a way you can make an anonymous report? EDIT: even if you can't, I'd report. I'd choose my child over any drama she may create.
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 22 '24
I’m going to see if I can. From most of my experience the military is so upfront about everything, but i’m going to emphasize being anonymous. It’s hard living in such close proximity to other people. Relationships seem to turn sour so quick living 30ft from the next person.
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u/Cheronis Nov 22 '24
So I'm not familiar with what military base housing looks like, does it resemble a suburban residential area with streets to walk down?
I ask because if you can see people walking around, including walking their dogs:
-She either takes the pit outside on walks, and it's only a matter of time until a neighbor says something, or her dog causes an incident.
-Or she isn't taking the pitbull on walks, so the dog is being cooped up, and that isn't fair to the pit. That can probably be filed under animal cruelty or something.
Not that I care for the pits wellbeing, but it further proves the point that it doesn't belong on base.
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 22 '24
Yes, it’s suburban and cookie cutter houses close together all in a line, with side walks. She definitely has never taken it on a walk because I take my kid on atleast 2 walks a day and I’ve never seen her have either dog on a leash. I never even saw the pit in her backyard, only the german shepherd. I only realized it was hers when she came screaming and chasing after it which did nothing. It looked at her and just kept on going.
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u/poeticnap Nov 22 '24
Put your actual child first, instead of her feelings and pseudo fur baby. It's not being a Karen for speaking up for your family's safety.
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Nov 22 '24
Do you know about this one year old baby boy who was targeted by the pit bulls in the house who destroyed door after door to kill the baby. The parents were really upset when they learned that the dogs were vicious but they knew she was keeping 4 pit bulls and chose to ignore the risk to their own child and let him be killed!
The question is what would you say when those dogs maul your child? Would you say well I'm glad I gave her 1 more chance and now my baby is dying in the hospital but she was nice so she deserved the right to kill my child. It's okay though you can probably just have another one to replace it like you would a dog!
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u/loveofGod12345 Nov 22 '24
So 3 pits kill this toddler and the article says it’s a wage issue?!? No matter your opinion on wages, it’s the owners fault for having the dogs.
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u/FloridaFireAnt Nov 22 '24
I understand she sees them as her kids, but what would happen, if say, a teenager just decided to go on a rampage through the neighborhood, beating up other kids, and harming other peoples' pets. That kid would end up committed, and the parents would be in hot water.
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u/Accomplished_Tear825 Nov 22 '24
Id immediately report it. I wouldn’t be ashamed . Don’t get a dog you are not suppose to have
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u/maaku_dakedo Nov 22 '24
Active duty military here. If base housing is being unhelpful, contact base security, PMOs, MAs, whatever.
I can understand your husband not wanting to stir the pot after having just checked in, so maybe leave his command out of it if you can. If all else fails, go to base HQ as a last resort. Not saying the base CO himself, but ask the secretary/receptionist and they should be able to help point you in the right direction.
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u/Square_Cherry_118 Nov 25 '24
My ex lives on base. His pitt type dog bit my childs face. Tried to report it but they did nothing here in Ontario even with a pitt bull ban. All they could do going forward was to muzzle him when he is outside. Doesn't do much for my child when she visits though does it. And yes he kept the dog and blamed the victim aka his daughter. Unfortunately a military base isn't any safer than anywhere else apparently.
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 25 '24
I’m so sorry! I can’t believe he’d keep that awful dog and put your daughter in that position. These pitbull people really have something difffent with their brains. I’ll never understand someone prioritizing a dog over their own child. I’ve now learned all the military bases are full of pit mixes and they all lie. I think I’m now living by more pits than ever before in my life. With people just hiding it and lying no one really has a warning.
I’m sorry you’re going through that with your ex. He shouldn’t be allowed to keep a dog that bite her around.
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u/Square_Cherry_118 Nov 26 '24
Its insane how many pittbulls are hiding in plain site. Check out your local shelter. It's gotta be at around 80%. It's so incredibly sad. There is profit to be made by not enforcing the ban that's for sure. We just need to be vigilant when we become aware of one around us. Protect those around you and don't feel shame for that. As for my daughter luckily she is healing. The scar will probably be there forever and theres no telling what the psychological harm may be. All I can do is go after the insurance company so she can afford to fix it down the road with plastic surgery or even use that money for college or therapy.
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u/Sicilian_Spitfire Nov 26 '24
I will and I’m so sorry this has happened to you and your daughter. I’m so sorry you have to share custody with this man. I can’t imagine the anger you feel towards him, especially with this being the most preventable thing on earth, that he technically caused. There really is so many hiding in plain sight. These pit people are just making it impossible to maintain safety.
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u/SubMod4 Moderator Nov 21 '24
I mean, she knows pit bulls are banned but chose to ignore that and have one anyway.
That’s on her; that’s not you ruining her life.
And if her dog is aggressive and decides to ruin your life or your daughter’s life do you think she would really care that much?