r/BDS • u/Blaming7208 • 25d ago
ASK THE SUB Is Pepsi on BDS boycott list?
I know Pepsi is on some boycott lists but I am asking about the official BDS list. I only strictly follow the BDS list.
I am even a bit confused about the state of Coca-Cola as well, I know BDS recently posted about boycotting them but it's still not listed on the official list.
I drink a lot of sugar-free/calorie-free drinks to help with my weight loss, they are very helpful but if I want to stop using both Pepsi and Coke there are pretty much no sugar-free drinks available since tons of other drink brands are products of these two companies.
I know there are some Palestinian coke drinks these days but they are simply not available here.
I really care about following BDS and want to make sure I am following it correctly.
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u/liberaloligarchy 25d ago
And these own loads of other brands, Costa Coffee in the UK for example is Coca Cola
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u/Puripuri_Purizona 25d ago
That is usually the harder part. Dodging all their subsidiaries. They own juices and water too.
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u/Blaming7208 25d ago
That is my problem, avoiding their main drinks is easy but they pretty much own every single drink in the stores.
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u/Sad-Broccoli 25d ago
Yeah that's what I'm confused about. Is the official BDS calling to boycott all Coca-Cola owned products or just Coke?
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u/Blaming7208 25d ago
I’m not even sure if it’s on the official list or not. They just posted about boycotting Coke but it’s still not ok the webpage of all the targets, not sure if that’s just outdated or what.
I was already drinking mostly Pepsi anyway but even that is not much better. While I still stand by the fact that I am OK consuming them as long as they are not on BDS, it is a good idea to try to look for alternatives. Maybe something healthier.
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u/The_Knights_Patron 25d ago
Coca-Cola is a secondary target. The main ones are on the list. Also, Pepsi isn't on BDS at all.
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u/Blaming7208 25d ago
I guess this is the real answer I have been looking for
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u/tazzydevil0306 24d ago
Pepsi isn’t on the list but Soda Stream is and Pepsi owns Soda Stream. I don’t know why you just wouldn’t boycott though. Feels icky to consume these things.
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u/Blaming7208 24d ago
I never said I am or am not boycotting, the whole post is me just asking if Pepsi is on BDS or not, nothing more.
I have mentioned on other comments here that while I try to avoid any unethical brand, the main BDS list is the only one I boycott very strictly. So I will avoid Pepsi & Coke but it wont be a 100% boycott.
I am currently trying alternatives that are available locally which are Royal Crown Cola & CANS sparkling water (probably much healthier as well).
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u/Sad-Broccoli 25d ago
I'm a little confused about this too. But if you want to avoid both, there's other diet sodas. Where I live there's Faygo diet cola, diet Rite, and stores like Walmart or Aldi have store brand diet colas similar to coke.
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u/LightinNoir 25d ago
For alternatives I love drinking poppi and olipop especially the fruity flavors! BDS has posted multiple times regarding Pepsi/sodastream
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u/Blaming7208 25d ago
Sodastream is on the list but I still have not seen anything related to Pepsi officially by BDS itself.
I don't think Poppi is here at least in the stores but I think I have seen Olipop. I think the only real solution is to see what is available in the stores here and is sugar-free.
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u/LightinNoir 25d ago
Pepsi owns sodastream 🫠 I think it is also worth checking out any third party owned sodas like Target/walmart/kroger branded sodas
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u/Blaming7208 25d ago
I know but that also means there is a reason they didn’t put Pepsi on the list and just soda stream :/
I’m not in the US, I’ll check local stores
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u/pumpkinzh 25d ago
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u/Blaming7208 25d ago
I know it's not on this list but they recently posted that people should boycott Coca Cola and I was wondering if that meant it is officially added to the list or just promoting a boycott against it without putting it on the official list.
I just don't know how up-to-date that page is, otherwise that is the list I have been following strictly so far.
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u/AceGaimz 25d ago
The food and drink boycotts are the hardest in America because there are like 6 companies that produce everything you buy in a grocery store.
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u/Unable_Buy2935 25d ago
both are absolutely on the boycott list. why out of curiosity do you only follow the official list, which is not comprehensive enough in my opinion. you only need google both companies ethically records to see why, not including palestine boycott reasons
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u/Blaming7208 25d ago
I was very clear about my question in my post, I am asking about the original BDS list, nothing else. Many other lists have hundreds of brands to boycott and these two brands definitely are in them.
The BDS list is intentionally small and I am shocked by the fact that very few people in this subreddit understand that. By promoting boycotting the comprehensive lists you actually harm the whole movement.
This does not mean I do not boycott anything else, but the BDS list is the only one I strictly follow 100%.
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u/Unable_Buy2935 25d ago
im not say boycott everything, but pepsi and coca cola are both terrible companies in their own right, and if you can boycott them why not? i understand why the bds list is short, but boycotting more things isnt hurting anyone but unethical companies.
https://bdsmovement.net/news/coca-cola-quenching-israel%E2%80%99s-genocidal-soldiers%E2%80%99-thirst
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u/Blaming7208 25d ago
You still aren’t getting the point. No one is denying that these companies are unethical and we should avoid benefiting them.
It’s a matter of focusing on a small selection of targets to pressure.
There are many different reasons to boycott. Your personal ethical boycott list is not the same thing as BDS.
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u/Unable_Buy2935 25d ago
disregarding entirely the fact that coke is BDS, you can focus on a small list while also boycotting others which are not main targets…
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u/Blaming7208 25d ago
Coke is still not on the main target list, it is a secondary target. No one is against boycotting more for ethical reasons but this is the BDS subreddit and on my post I specifically asked about BDS and Pepsi which is not even a secondary target of BDS.
I am not asking if I should keep buying them or not, I just want to know if they are on BDS or not. The difference for me is that I only strictly follow the main BDS target list while trying to avoid the other unethical brands.
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u/aly5321 25d ago
People on this subreddit will answer "yes" to ANY kind of "is X on the boycott list" question. I'm not a fan of this mentality because if we ask people to boycott too many things, they will feel discouraged and not boycott anything. It's better to select a few companies which is the purpose of the BDS list. Personally, I'm boycotting Coke but not Pepsi right now. As far as I'm aware, it's not on the official list.
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u/Blaming7208 25d ago
That is the problem, they see this subreddit as a general boycott subreddit instead of BDS. This mentality of boycotting everything goes against the BDS strategy.
Anyone can boycott anything they find unethical but that would not be BDS, it would be a personal ethical boycott.
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u/itsquinnmydude 24d ago
The whole point of a boycott is that it's focused and strategic so the efforts can be concentrated
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u/Unable_Buy2935 23d ago
focused and strategic ≠ small
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u/itsquinnmydude 22d ago
I never said that, but I'm it's also not just random things people decide not to buy. It comes from an official list the BDS movement puts out. They endorsed some of the grassroots boycotts but many of them end up being counterproductive. Starbucks for example has no business in Israel whatsoever.
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u/GintokisRightShoe 25d ago
Pepsi owns 2 companies on the official BDS list so yeah, pretty much
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u/Blaming7208 25d ago
When two companies are on the list but the parent one isn’t, it just shows that the parent company is intentionally not on the list…
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u/omerfe1 25d ago
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u/Blaming7208 25d ago
Sodastream is owned by Pepsi but that does not put Pepsi on the boycott list. My question is not really about if Pepsi is ethical or not, I am simply asking if it is on the BDS list.
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u/Great_Philosopher_37 24d ago
Pepsi itself isn't on the official boycott list but is facing a grassroots boycott. Pepsi owns Sabra, which is on the official list. So is its subsidiary SodaStream. I think Coca Cola, which has a factory in a settlement, was just added to the list. Also, Palestine cola drinks are now available in the US. All this information can be found in this story. https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/2024/11/29/coca-cola-boycott-drink-palestina-nj/76435834007/
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u/wtflaserspewpew 24d ago
Not sure where you're located but see if they have Palestine Drinks there. It's a new soda company from Sweden owned by wealthy Palestinians. It's 100% charity. They don't want any profit from it.
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u/Blaming7208 24d ago
I will check but for now my plan is to get canned CANS sparkling water (much healthier as well) and Royal Crown Cola (couldn’t find any Israeli affiliation after a quick google search).
But I’m still not 100% boycotting Coke or Pepsi. Coke is like a secondary target of BDS so I will try to avoid is as much as possible and pick Pepsi over it. And in general avoid Pepsi as well.
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u/Timely-Ad6505 25d ago
For your health just drink water 💧waterbros
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u/Blaming7208 25d ago
I have actually decided to move to sparkling water (the local brand is called CANS). Honestly the main thing for me is that it has to come in a canned form and the taste etc is secondary since I can store them on my desk and always end up drinking a lot.
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u/RobynFitcher 25d ago
Is it possible for you to purchase soda water and then add a splash of fruit juice or sugar free cordial?
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u/Blaming7208 25d ago
Well yeah, technically I could even just drink water but that is not what the post is about :/
I have decided try to get canned sparkling water + Royal Crown Cola if I want to get cola. But from my understanding Coke is a secondary target of BDS (not on the main list) and Pepsi is not.
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u/Agreeable-Mood-4094 25d ago
Coca cola has been added to the BDS list, and pepsi is a significant boycott target even if not on the list. Palestinians are asking us not to support either company